Tek Processing large amounts

[Bouldorado]

A friend recently asked if I could convert 1-2 lbs into hash oil. The answer is yes, but my current butane setup (either soak or tube) is pretty much limited to <1.5 oz runs. Also if I use 1 can per ounce, butane will get expensive pretty quickly. Building a closed loop system is unfortunately out of the question.

So I was hoping to open a discussion about processing larger amounts of material. I'm interested in hearing people's teks (particularly QWISO/QWET) for large runs. The more detailed, the better. The goal is to maximize yield without sacrificing flavor.

 

[calimed]

Buy a few 24-36 inch tubes and a vacuum chamber/pump and you can easily process 1-2lbs of material in a day.

 

[farscaper]

sounds like you need to get a big 2000ml buchner funnel!

im subbed up to this. I will put my thinker on for it.

edit: if it is poor quality like trim. why not make a bubble hash or dry ice hash fisrt to limit exposure to plant matter with solvent. @2clicker is an advocate of this tek.

 

[215z]

I know what ASSuming makes me, but lets say he has 1-2lbs to process every ninety days. With the cost of solvent, I would think he would want a closed loop system.

Turnkey kits can be purchased from vendors like Cascadia Dynamics and Tamisium. DIY if you are comfortable doing hvac+plumbing work.

 

[Bouldorado]

I know what ASSuming makes me, but lets say he has 1-2lbs to process every ninety days. With the cost of solvent, I would think he would want a closed loop system.

Processing more than 1-2 oz is not a regular occasion for me which is why I don't want to drop the cash on a closed loop. Otherwise I definitely would. With 2lbs I'm looking at 30+ cans of tane. That's $165 (vector) - $210 (capital), and why I'm interested in a quick wash to minimize solvent costs.

 

[farscaper]

I think you should concider a mechanical extraction first. that will make soaking in solvent to purify much cheaper.

 

[Bouldorado]

do you think that would affect flavor? most of what I've read about making oil says using larger pieces of nugs is the best way to go for flavor.

@calimed

I'm thinking about going that route since I already have a pump and chamber, and it sounds like the butane costs shouldn't be a problem for my buddy. Do you know a good source for SS tubes?

Also would that method require some kind of compressed air to clear the tube out?

 

[farscaper]

do you think that would affect flavor? most of what I've read about making oil says using larger pieces of nugs is the best way to go for flavor.

@calimed

I'm thinking about going that route since I already have a pump and chamber, and it sounds like the butane costs shouldn't be a problem for my buddy. Do you know a good source for SS tubes?

Also would that method require some kind of compressed air to clear the tube out?

I would say you will need some type of air injection to finish off the injection and not leave some in those 2-3ft tubes.

 

[calimed]

Check out glacier tanks for your tubes.

A long drill bit and a stick does pretty well if you don't have an air compressor.

 

[Bouldorado]

Check out glacier tanks for your tubes.

A long drill bit and a stick does pretty well if you don't have an air compressor.

Ok sweet. How much do you think would fit in a 1" x 36" tube?

And what is the drill bit used for? Just compressing the tube load to squeeze out tane?

 

[calimed]

I'd get 1.5" vs. 1" diameter tubes. A 1.5x36 tube can hold a few ounces...but it varies depending on material. 2-3 of those and you can easily run over half a pound in one packing.

The drill bit is to help get the used material out.

 

[tuk]

1.5x36 is around 1 litre volume....you could fill a measuring jug with 1 litre of plant matter then weigh.

 

[farscaper]

1.5x36 is around 1 litre volume....you could fill a measuring jug with 1 litre of plant matter then weigh.

but that wouldnt be the same as a packed tube. as compaired to a loose volume.

@Bouldorado do you have a legnth of tube you use currently that you could compair figuratively?

say a 12x1" hold y grams so a 36x1.5" would hold x grams

 

[tuk]

but that wouldnt be the same as a packed tube. as compaired to a loose volume.

Unless you pack the measuring jug that is.......whateva, still more accurate than guessing!

 

[Bouldorado]

but that wouldnt be the same as a packed tube. as compaired to a loose volume.

@Bouldorado do you have a legnth of tube you use currently that you could compair figuratively?

say

I have a SSTB and a glass tube. Glass holds about 12g but I.d is only an inch or so.

It's not a huge concern, I was just hoping to get an idea of how many runs I'll have to do.

 

[DieHard]

I have 3/4" ID tube 13 inches long and it holds no more than 21g of loosely chopped then packed fairly tight. So maybe 1oz per foot of tubing. Just an educated guesstimate.

 

[DogBoy]

....nice diagram....worth 1000 words...

 

[walrus]

Ok sweet. How much do you think would fit in a 1" x 36" tube?

Bhombtubes uses pretty much the same 1.5" tubes that are available on Glaciertanks. Here is their estimated amount of material per length of tube:
6"20-28 grams
8"28-38 grams
14"50-65 grams
18" 70-85 grams
26" 90-120 grams

 

[jdee]

+1 for sanitary tubes, here is handy calculator that lets you know how much butane you can expect to use and how much weight it should hold
http://terpenator.info/calculator.php