Predictions For The "Marijuana Midterms"
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StickyShisha2
Well-Known Member
43% voted to keep prohibition in Florida. That isn't very good for their side
MuushuPork
Well-Known Member
FL wouldve been fucked either way with scott winning. He wouldve been busy for the next 4 years trying to keep it from being implemented. Prolly saved us a shit ton of money in legal fees.
Crohnie
Crohn's Warrior
There are a total of 8 states that have legalization on the ballot for 2016. With the 3 big victories last night, there'll probably be more when the 2016 Election rolls around. Here's the list as it presently stands:
Arizona, California, Maine, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, and Wyoming.
Although Washington DC voted for legalization, the situation is still up in the air since the Federal government has jurisdiction in DC.
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Silver420Surfer
Downward spiral
Congrats to Oregon, Alaska, DC, Guam(fucking really, Guam?!)!!
Good job voters, you all should be proud of yourselves!!
Good job voters, you all should be proud of yourselves!!
Jared
Cannabis Enthusiast
I almost hope they do just to see what would happen.
kimura
Well-Known Member
LOL yes!!!
the Federal Government going in and meddling to overturn local laws goes against everything the Republican Party supposedly stands for. Small gov't, states' rights (I know DC is not a state but it's comparable), etc... not to mention they may be forced to actually produce arguments as to why the Congress must trample DC's right to self-governance, YET AGAIN.
DC Council and the new Mayor have already declared intent to pass laws allowing the sale, tax, and regulation of cannabis. I think if members of the Congress were to sabotage these efforts, it would be seen as an abuse and they would get massacred by the press. but that's just my opinion. I believe some Republicans already tried to block DC's decriminalization efforts but got so much blowback that they ended up backing down.
in the short term it could go either way but in the long term I think the DC initiative is a MASSIVE victory which will force the issue. this was not the typical decrim-->MMJ-->recreational route that most states take. and the DC legalization campaigned directly addressed the injustices of prohibition. they cut through a lot of bullshit and went straight for the real goal. this was a bold move that enjoyed overwhelming popular support.
the tide is turning and nobody will want to be left behind. I don't think republicans will ultimately want to position themselves as the prohibition party... where will all the tea baggers go? If you look at the way support for cannabis legalization breaks down by age group, it seems clear that as time goes on, popular support for legalization will only increase nationwide. we just need all the ignorant, racist elderly people to hurry up and die already.
grokit
well-worn member
November 6, 2014
Uncertain Future for DC Legalization
Tags: Initiative 71, washington dc marijuana
Regardless of how loudly voters speak, sometimes elected officials just ignore them. That might become the case in Washington DC with Initiative 71, which legalized marijuana possession and passed with nearly 65% of the vote on Tuesday.
At least one House Republican in Congress has sworn to do all he can to block implementation of the initiative, according to The Washington Post. It’s also possible that Congress and President Obama could agree on a resolution to essentially veto the new law, but that would have to happen within 60 days of Initiative 71 passing. (And that’s only happened three times in the past four decades.)
Alternatively, opponents in Congress could use other methods to delay Initiative 71 going into effect, as they did with medical marijuana, The Post reports. Washington DC passed its MMJ law in 1998, but it was stalled for 11 years by Republicans who used parliamentary tactics to keep it bottled up as long as possible.
Also, the district’s mayor-elect, Muriel E. Bowser, said on Wednesday that she “would not want Initiative 71 to proceed to congressional review without accompanying legislation to establish a system for selling and taxing marijuana,” according to The Post. Such a system was not included in the initiative, which only legalizes personal possession and use, along with home cultivation and sales of paraphernalia.
Pushing the envelope that way may turn off potential allies in Congress, however, such as Kentucky U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, a Republican who said on Tuesday that he would rather defer to the will of DC voters than overturn the new law. If Congress steps aside, the DC council could move forward with a measure to regulate the sale and distribution of marijuana.
http://mmjbusinessdaily.com/uncertain-future-for-dc-legalization/
Uncertain Future for DC Legalization
Tags: Initiative 71, washington dc marijuana
Regardless of how loudly voters speak, sometimes elected officials just ignore them. That might become the case in Washington DC with Initiative 71, which legalized marijuana possession and passed with nearly 65% of the vote on Tuesday.
At least one House Republican in Congress has sworn to do all he can to block implementation of the initiative, according to The Washington Post. It’s also possible that Congress and President Obama could agree on a resolution to essentially veto the new law, but that would have to happen within 60 days of Initiative 71 passing. (And that’s only happened three times in the past four decades.)
Alternatively, opponents in Congress could use other methods to delay Initiative 71 going into effect, as they did with medical marijuana, The Post reports. Washington DC passed its MMJ law in 1998, but it was stalled for 11 years by Republicans who used parliamentary tactics to keep it bottled up as long as possible.
Also, the district’s mayor-elect, Muriel E. Bowser, said on Wednesday that she “would not want Initiative 71 to proceed to congressional review without accompanying legislation to establish a system for selling and taxing marijuana,” according to The Post. Such a system was not included in the initiative, which only legalizes personal possession and use, along with home cultivation and sales of paraphernalia.
Pushing the envelope that way may turn off potential allies in Congress, however, such as Kentucky U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, a Republican who said on Tuesday that he would rather defer to the will of DC voters than overturn the new law. If Congress steps aside, the DC council could move forward with a measure to regulate the sale and distribution of marijuana.
http://mmjbusinessdaily.com/uncertain-future-for-dc-legalization/
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
The wall of cannabis criminalization is crumbling all around us. We are living in a wonderful time in history. In some parts of the country it's not crumbling fast enough.
Feds get with the program and change the ruling to decriminalize cannabis.
Feds get with the program and change the ruling to decriminalize cannabis.
Jared
Cannabis Enthusiast
I dunno what it'll take for the feds to decriminalize. All their cartel buddies/partners will not be happy when that happens.
And we have linked aid to anti-drug laws in 3rd-world countries. There will be a remarkable domino effect with the legalization.... given whether the next president is pot-friendly or convinced it is a one-way ticket to sin and perdition.
gangababa
Well-Known Member
Sorry that I can not be as sanguine about the future of cannabis legalization.
Progressive thinkers and youth are not voting. The country is in the hands of those deliberately lying to Americans and cultivating ignorance as they try to return the USA to their late-19th century guilded-age fantasy. The Fifties are no longer good enough for those who wish to eliminate abortion, contraceptives, voter rights, female power, health care, unions, laws against child labor, weekends, minimum wage and otherwise reverse the entire 20th century.
Voters are returning failed governors to office in states with failing economies. It is easy to expect the voters of most states including Colorado to 'f*ck#p' the economic benefit of legalization and re-criminalize pot..
It will be easy for politicians to continue the "refer madness" by simply saying "Obama smoked pot".
Progressive thinkers and youth are not voting. The country is in the hands of those deliberately lying to Americans and cultivating ignorance as they try to return the USA to their late-19th century guilded-age fantasy. The Fifties are no longer good enough for those who wish to eliminate abortion, contraceptives, voter rights, female power, health care, unions, laws against child labor, weekends, minimum wage and otherwise reverse the entire 20th century.
Voters are returning failed governors to office in states with failing economies. It is easy to expect the voters of most states including Colorado to 'f*ck#p' the economic benefit of legalization and re-criminalize pot..
It will be easy for politicians to continue the "refer madness" by simply saying "Obama smoked pot".
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Some of us maybe viewing the new laws in areas throughout the U.S under rose colored glasses. But I never thought I would live to see the day that cannabis would be legal in four states. Also the list of states that allow for medical cannabis. Some days I have to pinch myself realizing when I wake up in the morning that I live in a legal state.
I grew up in the 1960s and 70s, so I've seen a drastic change in attitudes regarding cannabis. True a lot needs to change. People need to get out there and vote some of these old fossils out of office. Also get rid of these narrow minded politicians that are living with the "Reefer Madness mentality.
I really do have hope for the future. A lot can happen with a new president good or bad. Lest we not forget George W Bush Jr #45. Mr "I'm a uniter not a divider."
I grew up in the 1960s and 70s, so I've seen a drastic change in attitudes regarding cannabis. True a lot needs to change. People need to get out there and vote some of these old fossils out of office. Also get rid of these narrow minded politicians that are living with the "Reefer Madness mentality.
I really do have hope for the future. A lot can happen with a new president good or bad. Lest we not forget George W Bush Jr #45. Mr "I'm a uniter not a divider."
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grokit
well-worn member
If you're right, then the pendulum swing will be even bigger when gravity finally intervenes.
