portable vape with low vape temp?

[flouris]

I apologize in advance if this has been discussed, I tried searching the forums to no avail.

This may sound like an odd q but here goes. I work in the fragrance industry - my nose is my livelihood - a career I love and so I'm very conscious about this at all times. I have used multiple vapes that my friends have (all of which are non-portable) and all of them really scorch the weed. Not literally, none combust the material, but it gets about as close to that as possible. After sessions on these vapes I notice vast deterioration in olfactory perception that can last up to a few days. Few things are worse for fragrance (and taste) perception than the inhalation of combusted materials. Now while these vapes I speak of don't necessarily combust the material, their effect on my olfactory perception is great nonetheless.

Fortunately I found (through this wonderful forum) and use an AromaZap vape. It vapes amazingly in my estimation. My friends knock it, saying the temp is too low -- and while I agree (the abv is almost the same color green coming out as it is going in whereas their vapes result in an almost mud/chocolate colored abv) this is the primary reason I enjoy my AromaZap. Plus the flavor is far better on the AZ, to me at least. I'd rather utilize 40-60% of the thc and keep my olfactory sharpness intact than hit 80-95% thc efficiency and have noticeable diminished olfactory perception.

So my question, usual as it may seem on this forum, is there any portable vape that hovers around the temperature zone of log vapes such as the AromaZap?

I have read threads on the Launch Box but I've come across too many reports of accidental combustion which immediately put me off from it (I understand there are ways around it but the process seems very lengthy and great for the ease-of-use I seek).

If anyone can point me toward a portable vape that has a very mild vape temp I would greatly appreciate it.

Many thanks.

 

[Lo]

I prefer the Launch Box as my portable as once you master the learning curve... you are in complete control of what temp you vape at BUT... if you want a portable in the same range as the log vapes you might look at an Iolite or they have a newer model out the Whispr by Iolite though that is pretty new and I have no feedback on that one.

The Iolites sound like they might fit the bill as you can't catch the herbs on fire, the temp is controlled and not adjustable at all. You turn it on, let it heat, vape and then dump out the ABV. Routine cleaning is needed to keep performance up.

I will say I have three IO's but I only use them for situations where I need portable, hands free or don't want to bother teaching someone how to use a vape. I use a lot out in the boat, etc.

While I like mine I actually never recommend them to new folks as I've spent so much time helping people troubleshoot issues with their Iolites (most due to cheap butane used but not all). Still I have had mine for quite some time, the oldest is over 2 yrs old and still kicking.

If price doesn't concern you then perhaps look at an Iolite. If you are trying to budget consider the Launch Box and plan to learn the curve.. learn to practice not keeping the battery in too long. I haven't had combustion in my launch boxes in a couple years even when teaching others to use it.

 

[SD_haze]

the iolite definitely has a mild temperature, ive hit it long after its done not realizing and the ABV never combusts or even gets charred/blackened.

the magic flight's temperature is basically all in the draw speed, so if you dont mind a learning curve its not a bad idea.

pretty much all the lighter-based vapes are pretty impossible to consistently get low temp hits

 

[Kaptan]

The Arizer SOLO on Temperature setting #2, or 3 may be what you are looking for. Check out the Arizer Solo thread. It is a small vape around the size of a red bull can, has 7 temperature settings, and runs on rechargable lithium battery.

 

[charliedontsurf]

Solo would be good, as would the MFLB with proper technique. I'd prefer either before the Iolite, and I suggest you wait 2-4 weeks before getting the Solo.

From what I understand, your Zap should be getting it darker than what you describe, and you should contact Rick over on the Zap-specific thread.

Haze, I have to respectfully disagree, you can get low temp hits with many of them. Most VGs, the vapocane, vapobowl, etc., it's all in the technique. A jet lighter is also far more flexible and useful in getting low temperature hits than a candle-type flame could ever be.

 

[SD_haze]

A jet lighter is also far more flexible and useful in getting low temperature hits than a candle-type flame could ever be.

yeah thats the problem, the only VG ive ever had access to were the metal ones which dont work with the torch lighters =/

 

[Nycdeisel]

I think you are really looking at the Solo and the MFLB. mind you in very different categories and price ranges, they both seem to be the hot portables on the market, and portable vapes can be an iffy thing!

I still have to say the MFLB, as its not only portable, BUT can be used easily where ever and whenever! its much more in stealth mode then any other portable, no lights, sounds, or finicky buttons. it also has the best warranty of ANY vaporizer on the market, the Solo is very new and is still being tested and could potentially have its design tweaked at some point in the future, just like the MFLB could, but the MFLB has had a long track record, the Solo really doesnt. not dissing Solo, its just the truth!

 

[nr-cole]

I'd recommend the Iolite as well. The LB may suit your needs but like people say, there's a learning curve and accidents happen sometimes. That will absolutely not happen with the Iolite. It's the simplest vape to just puff on, you really can't do it wrong. When I first got my Zap the first thing my friend said was that the temp/effect was reminiscent of the Iolite and not our Extreme Q which we use at higher temperatures.

 

[charliedontsurf]

You can go very wrong with the Iolite, it has one of the worst reliability reputationsof any vaporizer I can think of. Maybe that reputation is overblown, and a very good portion of those complaints are related to using low quality butane, but not nearly all. It's also not variable temp, being set at 355ish Fahrenheit. That's probably not low enough. Truthfully, the Solo might also not be cool enough - I believe temp setting 1 is like 100F (useless) and 2 is like 335F. I actually mentioned to Steve at Arizer that the temp range should be extended downward by at least 50 degrees.

A MFLB can go low or high depending on user technique and battery variables, and is probably the true winner here excluding the Supreme or lighter-powered vapes.

 

[AGBeer]

Another thing to consider is the new stainless steel VG coil. I know its a shameless plug, but after owning an Iolite, many classic VGs, a MFLB (and yes a zap) I would say the SS coil had the least of the learning curves. (Especially for smoker converts)

I love all of my vapes, but if cost and availability were not an issue - it would be this or my SSV.

Fortunately this one is portable, has no heat up time, and has a pretty easy learning curve. (And its 1/10th of what my SSV cost)

 

[WatTyler]

Yeah the LB is a good vape as we all know, great for stealth and portability, but truthfully I really couldn't recommend it for the OP's stated situation. For me, and so I read some others on here, the LB can be slightly harsher on the airways- it's my one vape that most often makes me cough and can cause a little irritation. And there always remains that possibility to over cook. Seeing as it's your livelihood OP, if it were me I would play safe and get something controlled and consistent. The Iolite would work- it's fixed temp at around 190- the same-ish as a log, although in mine the abv comes out a lot darker than my log (but I also leave it in cooking for longer). I hate to recommend a Solo again, but here I think it's the most suitable- used on temp setting 2 (185C) it's pretty similar to a log vape in vapor terms.

 

[flouris]

Many thanks for all the thoughtful replies. I have always had a subconscious aversion to Iolite, but it really does seem like the most ideal for what I'm looking for, though the idea of carrying a contraption with butane around with me will take some getting used to. It's kind of a shame as the LaunchBox is so aesthetically pleasing to me, which is one reason I went with an AromaZap (without the LED light). I really wish there was some way to manually rig the LaunchBox to vape at a lower temp -- it's absence of any digital/blinking lights, it's discreet size and its beauty is really quite appealing. The VG coil looks very nice as well but I'm reading some reviews saying flame exhaust is inhaled using this device, which I just cannot have happen.

charliedontsurf: Thanks for the suggestion. Rick has always been great with my questions. It's not entirely fair to say my abv comes out the same color as it goes in - I guess I should've emphasized it merely seems that way in comparison to the drastic brown abv my friends' vapes produce. I believe using a slightly higher voltage ac adapter can get the Zap to vape higher, as does the beer cozy trick (which does work!) -- plus I notice my Zap produces monster hits when it's a really warm day (no a/c in my apartment), whereas on very cold days I typically will slide my vape into a beer cozy, otherwise the hits simply aren't very satisfying. But overall I love the Zap and recommend it to every head I meet. It has proven to be a solid investment and it has brought me many, many good times. My search is only for a portable counterpart -- here in the crib I will always use my Zap.

 

[Nycdeisel]

but the mflb CAN vape at lower temperatures! YOU control the temperature of the vapor!
as its been said, the iolite is pretty unreliable

 

[JDSupreme]

but the mflb CAN vape at lower temperatures! YOU control the temperature of the vapor!
as its been said, the iolite is pretty unreliable

Yup. Draw quicker = lower temp. The learning curve is not nearly as bad as some think IMO. Only time I've remotely come close to borderline higher temps was messing with the power and water adapter together for the first trench or 2

 

[pakalolo]

I'm joining those who say the LB is easy to keep at low temperatures with breath control. Of course with the PA for the MFLB you can set it to a consistent low temperature, but I gather portability is a key requirement.

I'm curious whether the pungency of the original weed is a factor.

 

[max]

Many thanks for all the thoughtful replies. I have always had a subconscious aversion to Iolite, but it really does seem like the most ideal for what I'm looking for, though the idea of carrying a contraption with butane around with me will take some getting used to.

As an owner (and user) of both the iolite and LB, I think you'll be better off with the iolite if consistent temp control is your priority. It requires zero attention. I would advise you to use small amounts and avoid long sessions with it, since the temp will rise a little after a while, due to the bowl and mouthpiece area getting hot. And if the vapor after 20 minutes or so is OK with you, then you're covered. It is a design with some reliability issues, but I've been using a couple of different units (one for almost 3 yrs) with no problems. In your case I wouldn't recommend their new WISPR model, since IMO it runs hotter than the iolite.

 

[Seek]

I'd rather utilize 40-60% of the thc and keep my olfactory sharpness intact than hit 80-95% thc efficiency and have noticeable diminished olfactory perception.

Are you saving your ABV from your Zap? 40-60% thc left sounds powerful for cooking.

Iolite is an absolute electricity freedom, but butane can are not very good. Just very portable. Its ABV is brown, not light nor dark. Its mouthpiece and herb chamber can be difficult to clean so taste can go bad (when clean its good, little of metal taste). With good butane it can be reliable and work for years. In my opinion its expensive for what you get.

MFLB can combust RARELY (while reading a MFLB thread, you can think its combusting every 10 trenches, but no its not like that) especially first days using it. Its learning curve is VERY SIGNIFICANT, but also very easy to master. So first times you can pull air, overcook, or rarely combust, but you can get to it fast, then its almost impossible to combust. If you can take few "accidents", then its golden. Ultra fast and small, and also easy when mastered. It runs hot when pulling slowly or waiting before drawing, then its giving clouds and making abv brown. If you draw faster, you can achieve the same green abv as from you zap. Costs 119$, that is the least expensive quality vape imo. Some think its expensive because it looks simple but when holding one in hand, precise craftmanship with ingenious "out of the box" design can be seen.

I don't have a Solo, but it looks it could be very good for you. It looks bigger, more expensive and less stealthy than my units. Reading its thread, i see it can perfrom very good. Great taste for a portable and precise temp control and you can set it low and be happiest.

 

[nr-cole]

as its been said, the iolite is pretty unreliable

I think this is misleading. We don't have any idea what overall failure rates are on the Iolite. Just like we don't have any idea how many smelly NO2s or flaking Solos there are out there. With any product the unhappy people will always be more vocal than the happy ones, and I know plenty of people with Iolites that still run great, and it's safe to say at this point that O&B have sold more than a couple.

Mine still runs great

 

[sundaddy]

The Launch Box, milked with weak batteries is what I prefer. Just hit for 3 second intervals, you won't combust. I had an Iolite and it's OK if you don't mind your throat being as dry as the Sahara. The MFLB is very kind on your throat, if you take it easy.

 

[Zed]

I've used a friend's Iolite a lot and can confirm that the WISPR runs hotter over long sessions. The iolite is what I would choose for less heat. I am not trash talking my WISPR though, I love it.

No one has ever cooked a hoot in an Iolite.