Discontinued Pinnacle Pro

chimpybits

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Hi all,
First post so be gentle :)
I found the perfect case for the PNP, it is a nice quality leather pen case. You just need to cut out the pen strap inside and it fits perfectly. Low price, great zipper, feel and size. Still pocketable and space for a spare bullet. Enjoy.

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Here is where I got it: http://www.penblanks.ca/High-End-Genuine-Leather-pen-pouch/
I'm interested. Canadian company eh? Fuck yeah. And cheap.

Would you be a dear and post a pic like the first pic, but with the case opened up (somehow - hands or makeshift tools) - so I can see the PnP sitting inside the case better? pls and tu.

I'd imagine I'd still wrap the PnP in a small piece of fabric (actually, the little cloth used for glasses cleaning) to take up the remaining free space and protect it from the inside of the zipper.

Nice first post. Pics even uploaded right first time. :tup:
 
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ProRollers

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could use some help...have 2 pax in rotation...was looking at trying something new so i bought this...problem is i can't get hardly any vapor...ihave packed the bullets tight, loose...started at level 1 and increased slowly to level 3....tried reverse, started on 3 then backed down to one before pulling a hit...not much other than hot air acc a little vapor...nothing like the pax...straight mouthpiece and flowers so far.....any ideas
 
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vape4health

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could use some help...have 2 pax in rotation...was looking at trying something new so i bought this...problem is i can't get hardly any vapor...ihave packed the bullets tight, loose...started at level 1 and increased slowly to level 3....tried reverse, started on 3 then backed down to one before pulling a hit...not much other than hot air acc a little vapor...nothing like the pax...straight mouthpiece and flowers so far.....any ideas
Maybe, I was having similar problems at first. For me *I believe* the bullet was picking up out of the heater a tiny bit, pushing the mouthpiece screen down to hold the bullet down fixed it for me. Still not huge clouds but usable.
 
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ProRollers

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Maybe, I was having similar problems at first. For me *I believe* the bullet was picking up out of the heater a tiny bit, pushing the mouthpiece screen down to hold the bullet down fixed it for me. Still not huge clouds but usable.

Thanx for the reply. I tried that and it did help a little but still not anything great. think I an returning if I can't draw any better than that by the weekend.
 
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dirtydozen12

Active Member
Try hitting slower. My WT gives me huge hits, without it my throat gets irritated quick and as a result I take smaller pulls. Water filtration is a necessity for me =]
 

stickstones

Vapor concierge
watch your draw speed. don't huff it hard, but you don't have to sip it, either. a nice, slow inhale works best. start by going so slow it is uncomfortable, then ramp your way up until you find the fastest you can draw and still get good vapor.
 
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ProRollers

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Try hitting slower. My WT gives me huge hits, without it my throat gets irritated quick and as a result I take smaller pulls. Water filtration is a necessity for me =]

Tried drawing at different speeds and intensity still nothing...I do have a WT coming in today and I will continue to try this weekend. Have had most of the better portable vapes and always went back to the same one but the cleaning sucks ass so I was hopeful
 
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ProRollers

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@ProRollers..is your herb dry and ground? have u tried using the PONG for the tip? You probably will get more vapor with the water tool.
Yes, got a mendo 3" I grind everything fine..vaping isn't new to me, been trying to convert my friends for over a year...Will try with the water tool but that's not ideal for travel which is why I have it. I dint need another desktop piece. For that I use a silver surfer...major clouds..not looking to match that but was looking to be my new portable..so far not it. Not a fan boy of any one maker, just want the best experience for me. Not everyone likes the pax either...chocolate and vanilla
 
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Mister G

Deceptively Old Fart
I get pretty good vapor no matter how I draw (I use the pong). Is your unit getting hot enough? It should get pretty hot to the touch on the outside of the heater on Level 3, if yours isn't perhaps it's defective?

Otherwise, maybe use the standard mouthpiece with the little mouth tip, it restricts the draw a bit so you a better focused pull.
 
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NolaD

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Yes, got a mendo 3" I grind everything fine..vaping isn't new to me, been trying to convert my friends for over a year...Will try with the water tool but that's not ideal for travel which is why I have it. I dint need another desktop piece. For that I use a silver surfer...major clouds..not looking to match that but was looking to be my new portable..so far not it. Not a fan boy of any one maker, just want the best experience for me. Not everyone likes the pax either...chocolate and vanilla

My only other vape is an SSV also, and I have found that you can not compare the SSV to the PNP. I also find the PNP to be almost ineffective after using the SSV heavily beforehand. It is just hard to compare to the taste and clouds it produces.

That said, I do still use and enjoy the PNP. I keep trying it and have been reasonably impressed. The only comparable session between the two is SSV @ 2:00 and the PNP at level 4 with the water tube. I tried that the other day after hitting the SSV plenty before and it was better than hitting the SSV.

Also, lots of people have said not to expect clouds. I know some people are getting them, but I am one that isn't and it is still plenty effective. I will finally get to try the PNP outdoors this weekend for Voodoo fest and I am not worried that it won't do it's job.
 

stickstones

Vapor concierge
@ProRollers

maybe yours is defective? I find the WT makes the hits smoother but yields less dense clouds. if you know what you are doing, and it sounds like you do, then you should be getting clouds on settings 3 and 4 no problem. the pack may change the clouds some, but even a loose pack is quite effective on a higher setting. what other portable are you using?
 

ProRollers

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I get pretty good vapor no matter how I draw (I use the pong). Is your unit getting hot enough? It should get pretty hot to the touch on the outside of the heater on Level 3, if yours isn't perhaps it's defective?

Otherwise, maybe use the standard mouthpiece with the little mouth tip, it restricts the draw a bit so you a better focused pull.
I do like the pong better than the mouth piece and it did got plenty hot that's for sure...seems like too much air getting thru
@ProRollers

maybe yours is defective? I find the WT makes the hits smoother but yields less dense clouds. if you know what you are doing, and it sounds like you do, then you should be getting clouds on settings 3 and 4 no problem. the pack may change the clouds some, but even a loose pack is quite effective on a higher setting. what other portable are you using?

I have 2 pax now for the last 8 months...had the thermovape, puffit, .the MFLB for portables..bunch of set top pieces as well.

I would have no issue with small clouds if the effects were the same but not there yet

I will give it the weekend and try the water tower, just hate wasting death star...Will try lower quality until I figure out
 
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NolaD

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@ProRollers
Try putting the ABV in the SSV afterwards and see if you get anything...

If not, then you know the PNP is getting hot and vaporizing the flowers. Otherwise, you could have a defective unit, or just user error still. I posted with the same problem a few weeks ago. I was able to put the ABV in the SSV and get a few more good rips. After more practice with the PNP, I can only get one gross wispy hit from the PNP ABV in the SSV. So i feel like it is working.

You really need to get to level 4 to toast it good, but I find it to be too hot without the WT. I did use a piece of SSV tubing (~5") on the PonG which cooled it down some before I got the WT.
 

ProRollers

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@ProRollers
Try putting the ABV in the SSV afterwards and see if you get anything...

If not, then you know the PNP is getting hot and vaporizing the flowers. Otherwise, you could have a defective unit, or just user error still. I posted with the same problem a few weeks ago. I was able to put the ABV in the SSV and get a few more good rips. After more practice with the PNP, I can only get one gross wispy hit from the PNP ABV in the SSV. So i feel like it is working.

You really need to get to level 4 to toast it good, but I find it to be too hot without the WT. I did use a piece of SSV tubing (~5") on the PonG which cooled it down some before I got the WT.
I will try that, good looking out. Not ready to give up, I do like the device itself, just need it to work with me. 4 was too hot with just the pong. I know it is heating up, flowers are brown and dry. I keep a thumb over the pong when not drawing so nothing escapes. I also let it get plenty hot, I never hit it right when the lights stop flashing...I understand most hit better when the device fully warmts up, not just the sensor...I want it to work
 
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NolaD

Member
Just one more quick note. Most people have found that it starts to hit better towards the end of a session.

Some people were letting theirs get to 3 and letting it sit for a minute before hitting it. I start hitting when the 3rd light goes on fully. towards the end of 8 mins the hits are better and warmer. On level 4 I can not do a whole session by myself without the water tube. The vapor is just too warm.
 

dirtydozen12

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I typically never go past setting 3 with and without the WT. I'm at work all day or I would post a vid of how slow I pull with the WT. I would say the water almost looks like a slow simmering boil, and usually I feel as if I'm drooling into the WT, just like I read that someone else was experiencing the same thing in the solo thread.
 

stickstones

Vapor concierge
I typically never go past setting 3 with and without the WT. I'm at work all day or I would post a vid of how slow I pull with the WT. I would say the water almost looks like a slow simmering boil, and usually I feel as if I'm drooling into the WT, just like I read that someone else was experiencing the same thing in the solo thread.

I'm not the only drooler!
 

SiDankies

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I have a regular pinnacle and I get solo sized clouds. I can only imagine the size the pro would give me. For me it's all about how I pack the bullet. Grind fine .. Scoop and tamp down twice then next scoop get something and pack down but not too hard. Do that until its right under the opening.
 
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