ConfusedVapeGuy
I hate Texas
Is it not recommended to try the actual mouthpiece and tip over the glass lined adaptor?
Discontinued Pinnacle Pro
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lookhigh
FC member
The PONG and GPONG are preferred by most users to the mouthpiece.
VAPEHUNTER
Well-Known Member
When I'm in my car I use this. → http://www.harborfreight.com/200-watt-continuous-power-inverter-66967.html
It's not really a "car charger" but it's still very effective.
I hope this helps. Happy Vaping!
BarnBoy
Reformed Combustor
Here are some choices for you:
1. Use something like what @VAPEHUNTER suggested, just less manly! Others have posted using various DC to AC inverters that plug in to a cig lighter and powers the PNP AC/DC adapter. 50watts is good. 100 watts is typical. More than 180 watts might have potential to blow fuses on your auto...
2. Build a DC/DC converter using spare or bought components. I did this, published same and even had a contest for one...
3. Find a converter/adapter that can source 2.5amps min or 3amps typical.... (Good luck!!!)
Sorry so terse, remote on phone...
-BB
Mr Mellish
Well-Known Member
I recently got my hands on wax for the first time. Unlike the stuff that looks like silly putty, this stuff is green (don't know if that's good, bad or irrelevant).
After several days of using a C-Go pen, I finally got an opportunity to load something into the concentrates bullet. It was a very different experience than the pen. My failing memory had me thinking that I should sandwich the wax between small layers of cotton, so this is what I did. Unlike the pen, I got no clouds. Since I could hear a sound that was almost like sizzling, I decided not to worry about it and just go for it. I did 8 or so draws at #4 setting, then cranked it to #5 and did 6 or so more. Never got any vapor. Exhaled nothing. The taste surprised the hell out of me and I'll have to revert to wine terminology to say that the PnP "opened up" the wax. It was a night and day difference from the pen, which had this vaguely synthetic taste. This had an amazing taste, almost like cotton candy (I have no idea what was used to make the wax).
The effects were much slower to appear than using the pen, and probably not as strong. After about 15-20 minutes it started hitting but impacted body more than mind (the pen was the opposite).
The resulting cotton was a nasty, sticky cotton wad. Is this how it should be or did I fail to get a complete extraction? Should I try it without cotton? Thanks for any tips...tried searching the forum for wax and it's too small a search term.
On a separate note, I've just had my first interaction with @VaporBluntDave and the guy is awesome.
After several days of using a C-Go pen, I finally got an opportunity to load something into the concentrates bullet. It was a very different experience than the pen. My failing memory had me thinking that I should sandwich the wax between small layers of cotton, so this is what I did. Unlike the pen, I got no clouds. Since I could hear a sound that was almost like sizzling, I decided not to worry about it and just go for it. I did 8 or so draws at #4 setting, then cranked it to #5 and did 6 or so more. Never got any vapor. Exhaled nothing. The taste surprised the hell out of me and I'll have to revert to wine terminology to say that the PnP "opened up" the wax. It was a night and day difference from the pen, which had this vaguely synthetic taste. This had an amazing taste, almost like cotton candy (I have no idea what was used to make the wax).
The effects were much slower to appear than using the pen, and probably not as strong. After about 15-20 minutes it started hitting but impacted body more than mind (the pen was the opposite).
The resulting cotton was a nasty, sticky cotton wad. Is this how it should be or did I fail to get a complete extraction? Should I try it without cotton? Thanks for any tips...tried searching the forum for wax and it's too small a search term.
On a separate note, I've just had my first interaction with @VaporBluntDave and the guy is awesome.
Gray Area
Well-Known Member
@Mr Mellish , if you're wrapping in cotton, I'd go with a normal bullet and not the concentrate FMJ... you'll get those clouds then and probably extract your product better - mine is dry when finished if I use a cotton wrap (prefer a bed of herb) 
Mr Mellish
Well-Known Member
@Mr Mellish , if you're wrapping in cotton, I'd go with a normal bullet and not the concentrate FMJ... you'll get those clouds then and probably extract your product better - mine is dry when finished if I use a cotton wrap (prefer a bed of herb)
Thanks! Is that a better option than the FMJ?
Mr Mellish
Well-Known Member
OK, thanks again. I only wrapped it in cotton because I thought I had read that somewhere (too many threads on too many products). I'm totally content with just dropping some in the FMJ if that works well.
ashingtray
Member
Sativape
Well-Known Member
I use this stuff:
Vaping with cotton
Degummed hemp fiber if my concentrate gets very runny when heated.
If it stays in a crumble consistency, then I just use screen balls.
Both methods with the bullet only.
The bullet is required to allow for the air to pass by/through the concentrates.
Tastes soooooooo good! Mmmm mmm delicious!
EDIT: @stickstones, thanks for putting me on to the degummed hemp fiber! I keep forgetting to thank you!
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BarnBoy
Reformed Combustor
The BarnBoy on the Inhalater05 –vs- PNP…
When my PNP collar cracked, TRVB was MIA on the forum and his CS was nearly non-existant, I broke down and signed up for the Indegogo offer on the Inhalaer05. After months of waiting and yet another PNP failure, the Inhalater05 finally arrived this last Saturday. So what you will find below are some comparisons to the PNP. Stay tuned…
OK, up front, the BarnBoy is pro-PNP since the day he bought it. He has published numerous articles from basic maintenance, how to keep the bullets spotless, PNP car chargers and many other helpful ideas. So those that don’t know the BarnBoy, you will find most of his posts are within the PNP thread. And thus this post will be found in both the Inhalater05 and PNP threads… (no PNP –vs- Inh05 thread)
Something very important that I learned in all of this is to have multiple vaporizers! Every time I think I am going to retire my Steinel and glass bulb setup, the PNP would fail. Previously it was with the cracked top collar that was fixed by TheYoyoKid1. I think we are all beyond the cracked PNP issues. But it appears as though there is a sudden increase of the symptom of the PNP being turned on to any setting and in 10 seconds the temperature indicates it has been reached; yet the PNP is stone cold to touch! I too am a victim. And in less than a weeks’ time, I have my new replacement PNP thanks to VaporBlunt Dave. Sorry @ashingtray I have had good luck…
The Inh05 and PNP are nearly identical-twins of different mothers in many ways, but WAY different in others. So what I plan to do is cover some major points of interest in a portable vape and discuss how the Inh05 and PNP compare. Feel free to ask if you have something particular in mind that I missed…
BarnBoy on size…
Like I have said many times before, the PNP is very stealthy. But the Inh05 is smaller in girth and length, depending upon the configuration. With the cap snapped on the end and a hygienic straw attached, the Inh05 is much taller than a PNP. I measure the Inh05 to be:
7.5cm Circumference (8.7cm at ribs) –vs- PNP 9.0cm
12.1cm Length without capsule (body only)
14.3cm Length with capsule
14.5cm Length with cap over capsule
16.6cm Length with cap & capsule
BarnBoy on power interface…
I hate to admit, but the 3.1mm barrel connector on the PNP isn’t rated for 3A. And I found that this interface gets bad over time and use. It is very exposed and gets knocked about a lot. The little wire that makes contact with the negative on the supply (outside barrel) will lose connection causing the PNP to fail, give error lights and/or stall a session. This is very frustrating when you are trying to get friends to convert from combustion and all they see is how long it takes to get a session going with an expensive device…
The Inh05 uses a standard USB Micro-B cable, and thus a standard USB charger. I’m not so sure the charger I received is good as it has been a few days and the Inh05 charger light doesn’t turn off (12+ hours of continuous charging!). Plus I have run out of power mid-sessions where the unit is unable to heat. So for now I will defer battery and operation time as I don’t see the 90 minutes that was advertised… (using different USB charger and cables to test theories!)
I think many of you that are trying to find a way to charge your PNP on the go can appreciate the convenience of having a common USB interface. The Inh05 has a USB connector that uses a through-hole shroud making the interface strong and almost impossible to damage like a typical SMT connectors. This interface is all part of the knob assembly module that needs to get removed to replace the battery.
A true benefit of the PNP is its ability to operate from the charger with dead batteries. I discovered, once the battery is exhausted on an Inh05, the USB can’t keep the unit running (even with a high power USB), and the heat will not settle… (heating/status LED will just flash)
When my PNP collar cracked, TRVB was MIA on the forum and his CS was nearly non-existant, I broke down and signed up for the Indegogo offer on the Inhalaer05. After months of waiting and yet another PNP failure, the Inhalater05 finally arrived this last Saturday. So what you will find below are some comparisons to the PNP. Stay tuned…
OK, up front, the BarnBoy is pro-PNP since the day he bought it. He has published numerous articles from basic maintenance, how to keep the bullets spotless, PNP car chargers and many other helpful ideas. So those that don’t know the BarnBoy, you will find most of his posts are within the PNP thread. And thus this post will be found in both the Inhalater05 and PNP threads… (no PNP –vs- Inh05 thread)
Something very important that I learned in all of this is to have multiple vaporizers! Every time I think I am going to retire my Steinel and glass bulb setup, the PNP would fail. Previously it was with the cracked top collar that was fixed by TheYoyoKid1. I think we are all beyond the cracked PNP issues. But it appears as though there is a sudden increase of the symptom of the PNP being turned on to any setting and in 10 seconds the temperature indicates it has been reached; yet the PNP is stone cold to touch! I too am a victim. And in less than a weeks’ time, I have my new replacement PNP thanks to VaporBlunt Dave. Sorry @ashingtray I have had good luck…
The Inh05 and PNP are nearly identical-twins of different mothers in many ways, but WAY different in others. So what I plan to do is cover some major points of interest in a portable vape and discuss how the Inh05 and PNP compare. Feel free to ask if you have something particular in mind that I missed…
BarnBoy on size…
Like I have said many times before, the PNP is very stealthy. But the Inh05 is smaller in girth and length, depending upon the configuration. With the cap snapped on the end and a hygienic straw attached, the Inh05 is much taller than a PNP. I measure the Inh05 to be:
7.5cm Circumference (8.7cm at ribs) –vs- PNP 9.0cm
12.1cm Length without capsule (body only)
14.3cm Length with capsule
14.5cm Length with cap over capsule
16.6cm Length with cap & capsule
BarnBoy on power interface…
I hate to admit, but the 3.1mm barrel connector on the PNP isn’t rated for 3A. And I found that this interface gets bad over time and use. It is very exposed and gets knocked about a lot. The little wire that makes contact with the negative on the supply (outside barrel) will lose connection causing the PNP to fail, give error lights and/or stall a session. This is very frustrating when you are trying to get friends to convert from combustion and all they see is how long it takes to get a session going with an expensive device…
The Inh05 uses a standard USB Micro-B cable, and thus a standard USB charger. I’m not so sure the charger I received is good as it has been a few days and the Inh05 charger light doesn’t turn off (12+ hours of continuous charging!). Plus I have run out of power mid-sessions where the unit is unable to heat. So for now I will defer battery and operation time as I don’t see the 90 minutes that was advertised… (using different USB charger and cables to test theories!)
I think many of you that are trying to find a way to charge your PNP on the go can appreciate the convenience of having a common USB interface. The Inh05 has a USB connector that uses a through-hole shroud making the interface strong and almost impossible to damage like a typical SMT connectors. This interface is all part of the knob assembly module that needs to get removed to replace the battery.
A true benefit of the PNP is its ability to operate from the charger with dead batteries. I discovered, once the battery is exhausted on an Inh05, the USB can’t keep the unit running (even with a high power USB), and the heat will not settle… (heating/status LED will just flash)
BarnBoy
Reformed Combustor
BarnBoy on use…
First time I used the Inh05, I wanted to return it. All the reports of claimed major clouds on setting 7, and I wasn’t getting much on what I dialed as 7 until I pushed to 8. No matter how many times I have tried, I absolutely HATE the “auto” setting (suspect I will regret this)! My IGG package included x4 Perma-capsules with the deluxe box set plus a glass capsule. I got a box like set (x1 STD capsule, x1 vented capsule, hygienic straws, cleaning straws(?), alcohol wipes, USB cable and manual, plus the x4 perma-capsules). Fredrick promised the Grinder, Cleaning Kit (screens?), Water Tool, water tool adapter and glass capsule are to be shipped shortly. IMHO- the vented capsule is a waste of time unless REALLY small loads are used. The tips of the capsules will get dang hot with use, thus you will want to use a hygienic straw to cool the vapor. Just soak it in mouthwash to get rid of the nasty vinyl smell/taste.
Well I noticed that my unit was not “on” when at setting “1” (see photos above!). Then I noticed that the “auto” was not actually on when in that beginning position. What I believe happened is that the alignment of the knob sticker is actually off by one numeric. So my dial “7” is actually setting “6”…
Question to all – what are settings 1-6 good for????
Once this offset was adjusted for, the results and performance came through. The tool performs wonderfully. I just have concerns for battery charging and how long it will last and capsule life…
So it doesn’t take much to load the PNP (drop in a pre-loaded bullet & close PGonG) and it can be easily loaded in completely dark situations and turned on to a desired setting. The Inh05 takes a bit more care. I do not have a means (YET!) to have pre-filled capsules, so I have to fill from my grinder before each use, and blow the ABV into a bucket/wind. Once I “click” a capsule into place, I then have to dial in a heat setting. All of this is not easy in the dark…
BarnBoy on basic performance…
So the capsules are actually little rolls of flex circuit Kapton like material; not a solid cylinder! I’m not so sure how long these things will last compared to the SS bullet of the PNP. They seem a little fragile and I have already crinkled one of my perma-capsules pushing on a hygienic tip. But they are very easy to fill by simply sucking in your herbs (don’t pack your herbs!) especially if the hygienic tip is used. The nice thing about the capsule is they do not retain temperature. So if you want a small session, turn it off and suck a few times to cool. Try that on a PNP and you end up sucking a minute plus time to cool. You can pull out the Inh05 capsule post session, touch the orange colored walls and not burn yourself. Can’t say that about the PNP SS bullet…
I think others have commented that the PNP is taking 120-150 seconds to warm up, and is a valid gripe. I have had sessions interrupted because the PNP couldn’t warm up before I was rushed to go do something for the family. However, the speed of the Inh05 is amazing compared to the PNP, as well is the temperature recovery. Once you turn on the PNP and it goes to temp, there is no indication that the temperature drops when you take a good draw. However, the Inh05 flashes at a rate that is proportional to the temperature error; longer time between on-off cycle larger temp error, short high speed flashes little error, and solid no error. The recovery on the Inh05 is less than 10 seconds, where the PNP was clocked in a previous post at 20+ seconds for temperature recovery. So speed to temp and recovery are very good strong points. This same flashing is often your indicator of how good your battery is (long time to recover means battery charge nearing the end). Eventually the system will not recover temperature and finally the LED will dim. Oh, this flashing doesn’t work on AUTO, thus another reason to hate that setting…
BarnBoy on annoying features…
The most annoying thing with the Inh05 is how bright the two blue leds are. They definitely are NOT stealth and can be used to illuminate ones path. But it still is not bright enough to illuminate the knob for dark settings. The bright LED can be covered with tape…
My second annoying feature on the Inh05 is the lack of a fast charge. I have had the Inh05 on a charger for over 12 hours and the Inh05 only lasted 2 sessions, barely finishing the second session… (still experimenting!)
At first the cap for the Inh05 is a good idea. It protects the capsule especially when in your pocket. But I found it does fall off, especially when on the control knob.
BarnBoy overall summary!
I don’t think I will sell my new PNP nor will I give away my Inh05. However, with only 4 days of use, if I was forced to choose between the two, I think I would bring the Inh05 with me on the go. This may be the romance period, but I believe the Inh05 gives better flavor overall (more even, not suddenly strong and then flavorless) and is closer to the flavor I have found in my friend’s home big name vaporizers. The removable battery is the probably the tie-breaker in these two devices. I can easily keep charged spares for the Inh05; a bit harder to carry batteries and car charger for the PNP as I have done in the past. So top that off with a speedy device and the Inh05 is a real winner…
Vape yourself to a better you…
-BB
First time I used the Inh05, I wanted to return it. All the reports of claimed major clouds on setting 7, and I wasn’t getting much on what I dialed as 7 until I pushed to 8. No matter how many times I have tried, I absolutely HATE the “auto” setting (suspect I will regret this)! My IGG package included x4 Perma-capsules with the deluxe box set plus a glass capsule. I got a box like set (x1 STD capsule, x1 vented capsule, hygienic straws, cleaning straws(?), alcohol wipes, USB cable and manual, plus the x4 perma-capsules). Fredrick promised the Grinder, Cleaning Kit (screens?), Water Tool, water tool adapter and glass capsule are to be shipped shortly. IMHO- the vented capsule is a waste of time unless REALLY small loads are used. The tips of the capsules will get dang hot with use, thus you will want to use a hygienic straw to cool the vapor. Just soak it in mouthwash to get rid of the nasty vinyl smell/taste.
Well I noticed that my unit was not “on” when at setting “1” (see photos above!). Then I noticed that the “auto” was not actually on when in that beginning position. What I believe happened is that the alignment of the knob sticker is actually off by one numeric. So my dial “7” is actually setting “6”…
Question to all – what are settings 1-6 good for????
Once this offset was adjusted for, the results and performance came through. The tool performs wonderfully. I just have concerns for battery charging and how long it will last and capsule life…
So it doesn’t take much to load the PNP (drop in a pre-loaded bullet & close PGonG) and it can be easily loaded in completely dark situations and turned on to a desired setting. The Inh05 takes a bit more care. I do not have a means (YET!) to have pre-filled capsules, so I have to fill from my grinder before each use, and blow the ABV into a bucket/wind. Once I “click” a capsule into place, I then have to dial in a heat setting. All of this is not easy in the dark…
BarnBoy on basic performance…
So the capsules are actually little rolls of flex circuit Kapton like material; not a solid cylinder! I’m not so sure how long these things will last compared to the SS bullet of the PNP. They seem a little fragile and I have already crinkled one of my perma-capsules pushing on a hygienic tip. But they are very easy to fill by simply sucking in your herbs (don’t pack your herbs!) especially if the hygienic tip is used. The nice thing about the capsule is they do not retain temperature. So if you want a small session, turn it off and suck a few times to cool. Try that on a PNP and you end up sucking a minute plus time to cool. You can pull out the Inh05 capsule post session, touch the orange colored walls and not burn yourself. Can’t say that about the PNP SS bullet…
I think others have commented that the PNP is taking 120-150 seconds to warm up, and is a valid gripe. I have had sessions interrupted because the PNP couldn’t warm up before I was rushed to go do something for the family. However, the speed of the Inh05 is amazing compared to the PNP, as well is the temperature recovery. Once you turn on the PNP and it goes to temp, there is no indication that the temperature drops when you take a good draw. However, the Inh05 flashes at a rate that is proportional to the temperature error; longer time between on-off cycle larger temp error, short high speed flashes little error, and solid no error. The recovery on the Inh05 is less than 10 seconds, where the PNP was clocked in a previous post at 20+ seconds for temperature recovery. So speed to temp and recovery are very good strong points. This same flashing is often your indicator of how good your battery is (long time to recover means battery charge nearing the end). Eventually the system will not recover temperature and finally the LED will dim. Oh, this flashing doesn’t work on AUTO, thus another reason to hate that setting…
BarnBoy on annoying features…
The most annoying thing with the Inh05 is how bright the two blue leds are. They definitely are NOT stealth and can be used to illuminate ones path. But it still is not bright enough to illuminate the knob for dark settings. The bright LED can be covered with tape…
My second annoying feature on the Inh05 is the lack of a fast charge. I have had the Inh05 on a charger for over 12 hours and the Inh05 only lasted 2 sessions, barely finishing the second session… (still experimenting!)
At first the cap for the Inh05 is a good idea. It protects the capsule especially when in your pocket. But I found it does fall off, especially when on the control knob.
BarnBoy overall summary!
I don’t think I will sell my new PNP nor will I give away my Inh05. However, with only 4 days of use, if I was forced to choose between the two, I think I would bring the Inh05 with me on the go. This may be the romance period, but I believe the Inh05 gives better flavor overall (more even, not suddenly strong and then flavorless) and is closer to the flavor I have found in my friend’s home big name vaporizers. The removable battery is the probably the tie-breaker in these two devices. I can easily keep charged spares for the Inh05; a bit harder to carry batteries and car charger for the PNP as I have done in the past. So top that off with a speedy device and the Inh05 is a real winner…
Vape yourself to a better you…
-BB
MuushuPork
Well-Known Member
Glad to have you back BB. Hopefully TRVB has gotten their shit straight enough to give us a new version of the PNP that can address the issues you described so well. Ive had my PNP since the first or second massdrop (sometime last year) and somehow I have never had any issues. I think my battery is down to a session and a half though. Other than that I have no complaints.
Mr Mellish
Well-Known Member
Thanks, all!
There is no question that sandwiching wax in a standard bullet is far more effective than the FMJ (although I do think the taste was more pronounced with the FMJ). Plenty of clouds and taste and not nearly as harsh as flower, despite the higher heat.
You all rock.
There is no question that sandwiching wax in a standard bullet is far more effective than the FMJ (although I do think the taste was more pronounced with the FMJ). Plenty of clouds and taste and not nearly as harsh as flower, despite the higher heat.
You all rock.
Attn: Someone with some battery knowledge
Can a vape work while charging and have a removable battery?
Are there currently any vapes on the market that preform this, or dose this not exist?
Can a vape work while charging and have a removable battery?
Are there currently any vapes on the market that preform this, or dose this not exist?
OMEiAM
Well-Known Member
The Inhalater 05 can be used while charging and has a removable battery.
MuushuPork
Well-Known Member
The pnp can be used the second you plug it in though. I think barnboy said the inhalator needed to charge up first.
OMEiAM
Well-Known Member
Yeah, the INH 05 has to be charged for at least 30 minutes while the PnP is instant.
Thanks
BarnBoy
Reformed Combustor
Well folks it's me again... 
Got to test out my brand new PNP, thanks to Vaporblunt Dave and his excellent CS!
The bugger works a lot better than the other one, but I did have to run it several times to burn off a funky smell I didn't observe with the first unit. Appears to be back to 5-6 sessions per charge...
When I opened up the box, it came with the dreaded MP. I pulled out the inner holder and found a brand new PGonG in the box bottom. See from photos below that this one doesn't use an O-Ring to hold the glass tube to the plastic outer shell. For now, it takes a lot of effort to push out the glass inner wall, but it can also be pressed in too far as well. I found all this because the bullets were loose again, rattling giving bad cloud performance. So what you have to do, once the outer shell is snapped into place, is simply push in the inner glass with your finger tip to lock/hold the bullet securely...
Cheers,
-BB
Got to test out my brand new PNP, thanks to Vaporblunt Dave and his excellent CS!
The bugger works a lot better than the other one, but I did have to run it several times to burn off a funky smell I didn't observe with the first unit. Appears to be back to 5-6 sessions per charge...
When I opened up the box, it came with the dreaded MP. I pulled out the inner holder and found a brand new PGonG in the box bottom. See from photos below that this one doesn't use an O-Ring to hold the glass tube to the plastic outer shell. For now, it takes a lot of effort to push out the glass inner wall, but it can also be pressed in too far as well. I found all this because the bullets were loose again, rattling giving bad cloud performance. So what you have to do, once the outer shell is snapped into place, is simply push in the inner glass with your finger tip to lock/hold the bullet securely...
Cheers,
-BB
ashingtray
Member
I was promised to get a tracking number on mon-tues. wrote to Dave, it's Thursday, and still no reply. I'm wondering if I've got the right Dave; vaporbluntdave@gmail.com
It's so frustrating, I'm currently at my Europe trip, was at Belgium, Tomorrowland, Amsterdam, and now Prague, it's too bad I didn't had my PNP with me, all the good herbs that I've wasted to taste on PNP. I wished they have warrantied me a new one, I could have help promote it.
Now I'm seriously considering to give up and get a new one.
extremely dissapointed!
It's so frustrating, I'm currently at my Europe trip, was at Belgium, Tomorrowland, Amsterdam, and now Prague, it's too bad I didn't had my PNP with me, all the good herbs that I've wasted to taste on PNP. I wished they have warrantied me a new one, I could have help promote it.
Now I'm seriously considering to give up and get a new one.
extremely dissapointed!