Phase3 Vaporizers

greenganja

Well-Known Member
What’s up Z tribe! I recently preordered the ZXXL and am excited to experience it! I am curious about if the zirconium, being heavier than titanium, will affect setup stability.

Here’s what I’m planning to use:

GooRoo HD3-> GooRoo Dry Ashcatcher-> Vgoodiez Pass Through-> ZXXL

Does this sound stable? Have any of you tried a similar configuration, or do you have tips to optimize stability? I’d appreciate any insight or suggestions. Thanks!
@GalacticGrizzly The ZXXL comes with a Custom Ultra Low Profile 22MM Tapered Diffuser Bowl Fits All 18MM Glass [2 Adjustable Screen Positions].
Although I don't think you will be able to use the pass through bowl since in it is an injector style bowl. You will have to use the low profile 22mm diffuser bowl that it comes with. You can use the dry ash catcher though. For me personally I never use an ash catcher with my ball vapes. I like the least amount of restriction possible. IMO the most direct air path is best for my use. Therefore I prefer not to use drop downs, adapters or ashcathchers. I do have two of the Vgoodiez pass through bowls but I only use those for my cannabis hardware ball vapes or my freight train pro. When I use the ZX vape I use the low profile ceramic zirconia ball that it comes with and it mates up with the bowl like a glove. Also, the passthrough bowls work good with my freight train and CH ball vapes, but I don't like how high they set on a glass piece.
 
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GalacticGrizzly

New Member
I read it as “Pass Through” adapter. 18M - 18F w/carb. If so, might try with & without it. I really don’t use mine too often. Carb is pretty small on it.
Correct. “Pass-through glass adapter” listed as “19mm female to 19mm male”. I think it should work if I run ZXXL Heater into ZXXL bowl into adapter. I guess I’ll just have to test it out to see if it is worth it.

I don't like how high they set on a glass piece.
Yeah I'm not a big fan of raising the height. I’ll definitely have to test it and see how it impacts the overall stability.
 

Eloh

New Member
Hey, im thinking about pre ordering the rx heater right now.
whats roughly the timespan i can expect until these are ready to be shipped? are we talking about weeks, months or years ;)
would the rx be compatible with the 16mm choil by tiodw (lite)?

maybe someone has an answer or a good guess :)
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
Hey, im thinking about pre ordering the rx heater right now.
whats roughly the timespan i can expect until these are ready to be shipped? are we talking about weeks, months or years ;)
would the rx be compatible with the 16mm choil by tiodw (lite)?

maybe someone has an answer or a good guess :)

ZX’s are in production right now.

Next month is going to be super busy for me but everything should be going out then. The absolute very latest would be January but despite the delays I’m not expecting that.

Appreciate everyone’s patience and support!

So in anticipation of the ZXXL. I went ahead and got the heat station ready to roll for when the ZXXL arrives.


Love to see the excitement, thanks for holding down the Z Tribe!
 

RedZep

Well-Known Member
Can anyone with both a ZX and a ZXL tell me how they compare on small dry glass pieces with similar load size? I imagine thr ZXL has more open airflow, but the hit is hotter due to the extra mass?
 

coolbreeze

Well-Known Member
The CC j-hook, left, is more than sufficient; the minihook on the right is tolerable but gets hot to hold.A good cooling hook should be fine. Of course this will depend on temperatures, but for flavor roasting it's pretty perfect.
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RedZep

Well-Known Member
The CC j-hook, left, is more than sufficient; the minihook on the right is tolerable but gets hot to hold.A good cooling hook should be fine. Of course this will depend on temperatures, but for flavor roasting it's pretty perfect.
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I appreciate that Coolbreeze. BTW the zirc bowl looks sleek on that black/green hook. Really nice. How much material do you think you have loosely loaded upto the inner rim in that first pic?
 

coolbreeze

Well-Known Member
I appreciate that Coolbreeze. BTW the zirc bowl looks sleek on that black/green hook. Really nice. How much material do you think you have loosely loaded upto the inner rim in that first pic?
I haven't measured but I think it's probably a little more than what I put in the ZX, .12g maybe? I'm usually trying to balance a lower temp with a fully-extracted single hit.
 

Cheebsy

Microbe minion
They're very similar with similar loads sizes tbh with maybe a slight advantage to the zx. I use all my P3 heads on the same tiny dry bubbler without issues. The XL can be a little more irritating than the zx with a larger load though, which is how I use it most of the time, but your huffing on it for longer so it makes sense. I don't think the amount of mass makes much difference when the materials are so pure.
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
Can anyone with both a ZX and a ZXL tell me how they compare on small dry glass pieces with similar load size? I imagine thr ZXL has more open airflow, but the hit is hotter due to the extra mass?

I think your responses will vary depending on how close the load size comparison is to the upper vs lower limit of the ZX bowl.

I still feel that the smaller aperture of the ZX makes it more efficient by increasing the contact area of the hot air, but for load sizes larger than the ZX can handle its sort of irrelevant I suppose. The incoming 3 shelf bowl might change that a bit though.

This idea follows along with the 16MM coiled ZXL/ZX mix rendering I’ve posted, with its 14MM tapered bowl that uses the smaller ZX screens.




ZXXL Update: Spoke with my ceramics MFG this morning and the ceramic handle components are being finished up right now.
Everything is looking super sleek!

There’s been a recent surge in ZXXL interest since they’ve sold out. The preorder had been running a rather long time; but if the interest holds perhaps there will be a second run or a variation.


Quick video clip testing one of the new portable concepts. Just getting around to trying this one out. Heated with a small Eagle single jet torch. As you can see the concept is working viably, though the heat up time is longer than I’d like. I need to experiment with some larger torch lighters or consider rebalancing the “thermal battery.”

Hits are extremely smooth, haven’t felt any harshness whatsoever so far.
Airflow is wide open.
Maybe too much, might crank that down more in future revisions to play with the pressure differential. I wasn’t exactly sure how this first model would perform. This was really just an initial proof of concept for this idea I had for dry herb vaporization that I’ve never totally seen done before. This one is focused around pairing with your favorite glass water pipes and dry rigs, but it’s bringing forward some past ideas about handheld native designs in a similar approach.





I filmed this early in the AM so forgive me for the low lighting and lack of exaggerated cloud glamor shots 😅
 

greenganja

Well-Known Member
"Heated with a small Eagle single jet torch. As you can see the concept is working viably, though the heat up time is longer than I’d like. I need to experiment with some larger torch lighters or consider rebalancing the “thermal battery.”

I don't think that I have ever timed any of my heat up's. So I have no idea what would be considered a long heat up time or not. In my experience with conduction devices, a single jet flame such as the Eagle single jet torch would usually take a little bit longer to get the device up to temp, but did a much better job in my opinion. However you are talking about a guy who once tried to heat up a dynavap vong with a Blazer Big Buddy GT 8000, lol. The Blazer PB207 was my favorite lighter for the vong (laser like flame for pinpoint accuracy. You can probably heat a device quicker with a double or triple torch, but it's less pinpointed and more spread over the chamber. or battery. I feel like a single flame torch gives the device a better heat soak if done in a slow methodical manner. I do use the Big Buddy GT8000 on my Thermal Accumulator for a shorter heat up time.
 

pxl_jockey

Just a dude
Today I come before you all on the two year anniversary of my Z8, to bow my head and humbly express gratitude to the creator and huge fucking thanks to the vape gods for giving him the vision and fortitude to make this device a reality.

Two years of incredible flavour, the purity of materials deliver an unparalleled experience consistently. I honestly can’t imagine how the vaporization experience could be improved upon in any meaningful way. Thank you so much, Ryan.
 

Housebroken

Active Member
I’ve been looking to pick up a microdosing bowl because, well, a “microdose” is just a “regular” dose to me. :p:p

Came across this thread and really like the sound of these Phase3 bowls and would love to support this small company!

I’m firmly ensconced in the wireless world now with my Zenleaf, though, so does anyone know if these ZX bowls are at all compatible with the CH Jane injector?
 

howie105

Well-Known Member
I’ve been looking to pick up a microdosing bowl because, well, a “microdose” is just a “regular” dose to me. :p:p

Came across this thread and really like the sound of these Phase3 bowls and would love to support this small company!

I’m firmly ensconced in the wireless world now with my Zenleaf, though, so does anyone know if these ZX bowls are at all compatible with the CH Jane injector?
My ZX bowl works well with almost all of my 14 mm female and male adapters and glass pieces.
 

coolbreeze

Well-Known Member
I’ve been looking to pick up a microdosing bowl because, well, a “microdose” is just a “regular” dose to me. :p:p

Came across this thread and really like the sound of these Phase3 bowls and would love to support this small company!

I’m firmly ensconced in the wireless world now with my Zenleaf, though, so does anyone know if these ZX bowls are at all compatible with the CH Jane injector?
The ZX is a 14mm injector so this bowl would be too small for the 18mm Jane injector.
 
@GalacticGrizzly The ZXXL comes with a Custom Ultra Low Profile 22MM Tapered Diffuser Bowl Fits All 18MM Glass [2 Adjustable Screen Positions].
Although I don't think you will be able to use the pass through bowl since in it is an injector style bowl. You will have to use the low profile 22mm diffuser bowl that it comes with. You can use the dry ash catcher though. For me personally I never use an ash catcher with my ball vapes. I like the least amount of restriction possible. IMO the most direct air path is best for my use. Therefore I prefer not to use drop downs, adapters or ashcathchers. I do have two of the Vgoodiez pass through bowls but I only use those for my cannabis hardware ball vapes or my freight train pro. When I use the ZX vape I use the low profile ceramic zirconia ball that it comes with and it mates up with the bowl like a glove. Also, the passthrough bowls work good with my freight train and CH ball vapes, but I don't like how high they set on a glass piece.
Just ordered the zx and from all reports that is very light.
 

coolbreeze

Well-Known Member
Thanks, buddy! As a casual vaper and FC lurker I have long benefitted from your breadth of knowledge on the subject. It’s hard to keep all these shapes, sizes, and manufacturers straight, so I appreciate your help.
Thanks, HB, kind of you to say. : ) All I can think of at the moment would be like an Ed's Tnt injector chamber or a Sticky Brick bowl. Both are a little smaller inside than like a glass injector bowl so it takes less to cover the screen.

I haven't tried one of these yet but they claim to be for microdosing with an 18mm injector (or a 22mm diffuser):
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