Discontinued Pax Vaporizer by Ploom

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WelshGuy

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I apologise but Vape Dr didn't respect me, trying to indicate that I had no common sense... You were a beginner to this forum once too man (Vape Dr) I'm just learning the ropes :)
 
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euph0ric1

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My question is.. can I expect to load my typical amount into the Pax and achieve similar effects to my combustion method? Or does the nature of vaporization require that more product be used to achieve the same effects as combustion? Any advice would be helpful, thanks!

The Pax does indeed require a bit more than the average bowl. I, like you, only smoked a small amount each time when I combusted so I was concerned about the amount. However, with the number of methods available to reduce the load size, I've actually been able to SAVE herb and still go at my normal pace. With a half-filled pax oven (using a spacer), I can get two solid sessions out of the herb. This was roughly the same amount, if not a little less, than I would go when through in two small bowls. So all in all I've been extreeeemely happy with the Pax's efficiency.

The nature of the vape high will appeal to different people for different reasons. I've personally found the high to be more potent and with an "all over" feel, mind and body. It appears to be longer-lasting as well. Of course this may depend somewhat on the type of herb.. But I do not feel anything is lost in terms of vapor vs. smoke. I'll refer to @pakalolo in saying the "head change" people feel when combusting is simply the CO from the burning plant matter. When vaping or smoking, it will naturally take 10-15 minutes for the THC to reach it's full effect in your body. So, when you vape a session with the Pax, be a little patient, and all of a sudden the waves of euphoria will just flow over you. In general it just feels better and more natural due to the lack of combustion. On top of the fact that the vaped herb can be saved for edibles! Win win win.
 
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imasinner

Just Some Loser
I apologise but Vape Dr didn't respect me, trying to indicate that I had no common sense... You were a beginner to this forum once too man (Vape Dr) I'm just learning the ropes :)

I'm sure no disrespect was intended, we are all just passionate about having the safest medicating experience, both for ourselves, and those interested in vaporizing. That being said, what's done is done, but there are still ways you and your friends can have the safest experience from your new purchase. If I were you, I'd do a thorough cleaning and an empty burn-off, just to be safe. Also, check for materials that you don't feel comfortable ingesting.

Again, not trying to imply a lack of common sense, just trying to help. I hope everything works out for you guys. :)
 
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pakalolo

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Actually, I've been a moderator before, so your allegation that I don't know how forums work is very inaccurate. Typically I didn't police every little infraction that I saw since that can give off a very militant vibe and potentially the forum a bad name... When someone asked a question I would make sure that a sufficient answer was provided before passing it off to the next guy/girl. Should I have cloned my question and asked again? Something tells me this would have been even more egregious.

Anyway, I don't believe my question was entirely off topic since it was related to the Pax's individual way of vaping. But I do thank you for your genuinely informative answer.

I clearly said that I concluded that you were familiar with forums. Your behaviour makes me wonder just what that experience is, however. I'd have thought someone with moderator experience would have read the rules, understood the value of them, and tried to follow them. Bumping is bad manners if not against the rules in most forums, but all that really matters is that it's against our rules. Saying that you thought the thread had been hijacked by a single intervening post would certainly lead many to conclude that your forum experience was severely limited.

You are correct that repeating the question would also be frowned upon unless a reasonable amount of time had passed—certainly longer than 14 hours, and after more than one post. I admire your diligence in your work, however what you describe couldn't possibly work here and isn't how this forum works. It must have been a unique place if a question had to be answered before another one could be asked. Here things move a bit too fast for that.

We don't police every infraction we see. Your innuendo about militancy and a bad name is noted. If we behaved the way you imply, you'd have gotten a warning point for bumping and a second for challenging a moderator. As a fellow moderator, perhaps you understand how frustrating it is when you simply point out that a rule is being broken with a request not to repeat the infraction, only to get kickback.

Since your forum experience varies so much from the way FC works you might not grasp this yourself, so I'll be explicit: if you have anything further to say about this, please keep it to a PM. Further comments in the thread will get you a warning point. Thanks for your cooperation.
 

WelshGuy

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Yeah if/when this fake turns out to be pure crap, I'll do what Vape Dr. did and take the thing apart and have a laugh
 
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Hi guys, first post on this site. :)

Im just got a blue pax and its my first forray into vaporizing. my regular combustion use is giving me hacky phlegm,which has been going on for years. I wanted to make the shift, hopefullyfor good, to vaping. I am though, after trying this about 3 times, a bit underwhelmed. The high is heady, and its nice. The high is slow to come on and the effects are nice,but it seems like I dont get enough vapor coming out. Here are some of my thoughts using this, and any comments, advice, or mockery, is welcome. :brow:

1. I tried the medium setting and initially, got a decent buzz off a few draws. The power went out so i charged it up a bit. When the power came back, i used the highest setting and get a nice toke off of it. A couple in fact and get a healthy buzz.

2. The power declined significantly with the highest setting. I put it in the charger overnight and in the morning, the atterydied before one hit. I turned it off and then on again, and wa-la it worked. High setting and got a good toke. Then, the power drained. Wtf.

3. Does anyone think the default #2 setting is too low?

4. My pax seems to take a while to heat up. I saw a video on youtube where a guy did in like 40 sec to turn green. Mine was much longer than that at a whopping 4:40 long. Thats annoying. Got a nice hit out of it, but here i am, waiting for it to heat up. Now that its hotter, the reheat isnt as long.


5. I heard about a modification you can do with an extra screen. Laying it on top of the herb and also underneath. I guess the idea there is to get the heat to surface area maximized. Anyone else do that?

6. How about little features like rolling the pax a few times to put it in party mode? Is there a guide to that online? Seems like their user guide, if this is true, is really lacking to a fault.

Thanks for the chat guys. Ive also tried baking with canabutter and will read and post anout that too. Ive been a long time smoker but my venture to non-combustion is new. Im a bit disappointed with the results so far, baking and vaping, and know that i have a lot to learn. Im using quality product and would like to see results, even though effectually dissimilar, id like to see some strength out of the high. Cheers. :myday:
 
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Wizsteve

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Hi guys, first post on this site. :)

Im just got a blue pax and its my first forray into vaporizing. my regular combustion use is giving me hacky phlegm,which has been going on for years. I wanted to make the shift, hopefullyfor good, to vaping. I am though, after trying this about 3 times, a bit underwhelmed. The high is heady, and its nice. The high is slow to come on and the effects are nice,but it seems like I dont get enough vapor coming out. Here are some of my thoughts using this, and any comments, advice, or mockery, is welcome. :brow:

1. I tried the medium setting and initially, got a decent buzz off a few draws. The power went out so i charged it up a bit. When the power came back, i used the highest setting and get a nice toke off of it. A couple in fact and get a healthy buzz.

2. The power declined significantly with the highest setting. I put it in the charger overnight and in the morning, the atterydied before one hit. I turned it off and then on again, and wa-la it worked. High setting and got a good toke. Then, the power drained. Wtf.

3. Does anyone think the default #2 setting is too low?

4. My pax seems to take a while to heat up. I saw a video on youtube where a guy did in like 40 sec to turn green. Mine was much longer than that at a whopping 4:40 long. Thats annoying. Got a nice hit out of it, but here i am, waiting for it to heat up. Now that its hotter, the reheat isnt as long.


5. I heard about a modification you can do with an extra screen. Laying it on top of the herb and also underneath. I guess the idea there is to get the heat to surface area maximized. Anyone else do that?

6. How about little features like rolling the pax a few times to put it in party mode? Is there a guide to that online? Seems like their user guide, if this is true, is really lacking to a fault.

Thanks for the chat guys. Ive also tried baking with canabutter and will read and post anout that too. Ive been a long time smoker but my venture to non-combustion is new. Im a bit disappointed with the results so far, baking and vaping, and know that i have a lot to learn. Im using quality product and would like to see results, even though effectually dissimilar, id like to see some strength out of the high. Cheers. :myday:


Welcome to FC Shootthemoon :-)

if your pax is taking 4 mins and 40 seconds to heat up ? you need to get it replaced you have a bad unit to which i never heard of one doing this.(is it like super cold there?)

as far as the temp question it mainly depends on strain pax likes the sticky sticky stuff .

I always start on high setting when light turns green i switch to low seems to work best for me .
however i would like to see a update one day (usb jack to choose the 3 temps via a computer would be nice lol,i do think the high temp is too low and could be raised((thc-v needs a higher temp)

volcano pad works nicely with herb on top add some oil to the pad for a extra boost.

as far as the party mode and simon game info can be found in this thread and elsewhere youtube has a few vids

cannabutter is off topic,and will need to be answered in another thread

http://fuckcombustion.com/forums/cooking-with-cannabis.10/
 

Vape Dr.

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shootthemoon, that sounds like a bad battery for sure. i have 3 and they all heat up within 30-40 seconds. get it warrantied and it'll be a night and day difference.

Wizsteve, I agree with you completely, my PAXs love Sour Diesel.
 
Thats what im using too, the sour D.

I'll have to research the warranty info. I hope i didnt just eat 250 bucks worth of paperweight. Much sppreciated, the advice about how my unit may not be working right. I'm on it!
 

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Ticovape

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This is the second pax I have that has gone bad... yeah warranty is great ... but WTF... on a product that cost this much this should not happen....
 
Ticovape,
Thank you Vape Dr. Kind of a noob move from me, not knowing the ins and outs of the forum and all. Cheers.


.......


I contacted the company and they said that the problem was from me not lubricating the mouthpiece part.


Its funny, i have tons of lubrication at home! Who woulda thought it!!! :cool:

Really though, the directions said to lube it but my box didnt have it included. Either way, the kind folks there will send some out. Good company!
 
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Vape Dr.

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This is the second pax I have that has gone bad... yeah warranty is great ... but WTF... on a product that cost this much this should not happen....

Just a suggestion.
Clean the bottom metal part of the mouth piece, then get a bristled pipe cleaner, dip in ISO squeeze off excess then bend it in half.
Clean around the mouthpiece tube in the unit along the sides. Go clockwise and push it down hard enough to push the spring and around the little tab that clicks the MP in position. Scrub all the way around the tube and make sure your pushing the spring down about 1/2".
It looks/sounds like the mouthpiece does not have a good connection to the unit.

I hope this helps.

Also charge your PAX with the mouthpiece up and charger on top.
This will keep your unit much cleaner, and may alleviate your problems.


shootthemoon check your PM!
 
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Ticovape

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Tried it ... :( did not work ...still does it ...and some times it dose'nt even turn on...thanks any way... I get my other one back today so sending this one back too. VERY DISAPPOINTED...
 
Ticovape,
Yeah its quite a lot of money eh for such a little thing. New companies and all trying to get a return. They dont have 20 year plans like the corporations do. When this stuff is legal nationwide, this is when products like this will be somewhat consistent. Logistics ajd scaling and all. As it is, this expensive price helps buoy a small company like this. Hopefully theyll be responsive to getting you a good model. Get them to test it. After 2 models, you should be talkng to someone directly, no? Get them to turn it on for you. Good luck with the new one man!
 

caliwisp

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Hi PAXers! Ran into the Ploom reps recently and learned that soon folks will be able to buy direct from their website; should be a bit of a discount too (maybe $20?). Don't know exact time estimates for this to happen but it is imminent. In the event some of you might be wanting to forego the middleperson and deal directly with the company (and/or save a few bucks).
 
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Vape Dr.

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Hi PAXers! Ran into the Ploom reps recently and learned that soon folks will be able to buy direct from their website; should be a bit of a discount too (maybe $20?). Don't know exact time estimates for this to happen but it is imminent. In the event some of you might be wanting to forego the middleperson and deal directly with the company (and/or save a few bucks).

I've purchased all mine directly through Ploom.
http://www.ploom.com/pax/

Perhaps they are talking about international shipping!
That would be great for our friends abroad that have to search high and low to get a legit PAX!
Lets hope that's what they meant!

Ticovape! I hope your new one works well for you, that sucks to have so many issues on such a nice unit. Give the charging recommendation a try when you get your new one. That's how I charge mine and they are stellar performers, and stay VERY clean.
 
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caliwisp

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Duh, yes perhaps! Let's stay tuned. If I see them around I will ask them to clarify. It was a very quick convo. But I promise to update if I can.

I've purchased all mine directly through Ploom.
http://www.ploom.com/pax/

Perhaps they are talking about international shipping!
That would be great for our friends abroad that have to search high and low to get a legit PAX!
Lets hope that's what they meant!

Ticovape! I hope your new one works well for you, that sucks to have so many issues on such a nice unit. Give the charging recommendation a try when you get your new one. That's how I charge mine and they are stellar performers, and stay VERY clean.
 
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shawn0223

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Just got a my pax back from being warrantied for the screen refusing to set right. They ended up replacing it and gave me a different color like I requested. great service. Email from the rep below. Glad to have it back.

No idea why the font color is that light but in a nutshell, the oven was not shaped right so they replaced it

Hi Shawn,
I can't tell you how it happened, but the shape of your oven was slightly irregular, making it inhospitable for screens so that's why they kept falling out of place.
Happy we could help, let us know if you need anything else :)

 

euph0ric1

Floating on.
Does anyone else experience frequent popping and hissing when vaping a full oven? I've seen a couple people mention this and the only solution seemed to be there was resin dripping down the tubing. However, that can't be in my case. It happens after a fresh cleaning. I normally do a clean, let it fully dry, charge it, load it up, and then put it away for the next use. So there is no resin, gunk, or iso in there when I start up the next session. And it only happens when I load the oven fully, not when it's half-packed.

It doesn't seem to be affecting performance but it's just a bit alarming when it reaches full temp and starts hissing and popping. It stops when I start inhaling, and starts again when I stop. Maybe it has to do with how firmly the herb is packed? I do tend to pack it down extremely firm.
 
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