Discontinued Pax Vaporizer by Ploom

[Mr.Krinkle]

Any place that sells cleaning supplies or hardware. It's really common.

what about soaking in mineral oil? They do this to super cool computers but I'm thinking for the benefit of adding a protective coating that will also maintain and perhaps enhance connectivity
-On a unrelated matter, anyone find any sort of grips that will fit over these? I know for a fact that this thing is going to get shredded in my pocket if I don't have some sort of protective shell for it. I really don't want to use rubber plumbers tape but I will worse case, just don't want to resort to this as it will take away from its appearance. Im looking for wide bicycle grips on amazon now

 

[JoeKickass]

I know for a fact that this thing is going to get shredded in my pocket if I don't have some sort of protective shell for it.

I carry my Pax with keys, jagged-edged flashlights, you name it. It really only wears the very edges:

(You can zoom in to see the detail)

But in normal use it looks like brand new!

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

I prefer zero wear, I have slight obsessive compulsive disorder, everything must be clean!

 

[newVaper420]

Somehow I got a scratch under the Pax light. Maybe from my vape mini tool.

And a scratch on the back. But I still love it. It's a beast :-)

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

I use these for my pokers on everything, http://www.amazon.com/Tapered-Heavy-Bamboo-Skewers-CMT2/dp/B0019V101M/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1356571446&sr=8-14&keywords=fancy toothpicks but they work especially great for the pax, the end is nearly the exact same width as the heating chamber, I trim the tips off as they get dirty, they arnt metal so I dont have to worry about scratching anything. On a side note again, found that the old rubber gromits for bongs that arnt glass on glass work insanely perfect for making an adapter for bongs. Couldn't be any more perfect, a lot of head shops still may carry these, I had mine in a draw hanging around from good old days!

 

[KingAnimal]

what about soaking in mineral oil? They do this to super cool computers but I'm thinking for the benefit of adding a protective coating that will also maintain and perhaps enhance connectivity
-On a unrelated matter, anyone find any sort of grips that will fit over these? I know for a fact that this thing is going to get shredded in my pocket if I don't have some sort of protective shell for it. I really don't want to use rubber plumbers tape but I will worse case, just don't want to resort to this as it will take away from its appearance. Im looking for wide bicycle grips on amazon now

I think they use mineral oil to cool PC motherboards etc... sometimes because it is not conductive, so it cools without short circuiting anything. In the case with the PAX the lube would need to be very conductive I would think. Ploom is suppsed to be sending me some to see if it fixes my temp light issue.

 

[JoeKickass]

I prefer zero wear, I have slight obsessive compulsive disorder, everything must be clean!

I think of scratches and marks on tools as battle scars... badges of honor each and every one! It's proof you've been using them shows how a great tool can stand the test of time

Look at this proud flashlight owner showing how great his tool is
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...Torture-Test&p=2979204&viewfull=1#post2979204

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

I think of scratches and marks on tools as battle scars... badges of honor each and every one! It's proof you've been using them shows how a great tool can stand the test of time

Look at this proud flashlight owner showing how great his tool is
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...Torture-Test&p=2979204&viewfull=1#post2979204

oh dear god sweet baby jesus! -I have a different philosophy about knives, flashlights, axes, etc. actually found a maglite lit up in the middle of the street on the back roads on a cruise one night, worked great as long as I owned it, despite obviously being run over. - I will cry if I see anyone do that to their pax hahaha
I have everything necessary to dye these what ever colors I like, not sure its worth voiding an amazing warranty just for a custom colored pax haha

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

I think they use mineral oil to cool PC motherboards etc... sometimes because it is not conductive, so it cools without short circuiting anything. In the case with the PAX the lube would need to be very conductive I would think. Ploom is suppsed to be sending me some to see if it fixes my temp light issue.

whoops I had it backwards

 

[Vapinghole]

I think of scratches and marks on tools as battle scars... badges of honor each and every one! It's proof you've been using them shows how a great tool can stand the test of time

Look at this proud flashlight owner showing how great his tool is
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...Torture-Test&p=2979204&viewfull=1#post2979204

I don't mind the scratches either, though I do my best to avoid them. Had my pax since August, and it's still cookin'!

 

[Mynameismud]

So how often do you guys clean your pax, i was kinda interested in one but i dont wanna have to clean my vape to keep it working. Is this still an issue with the pax?

 

[newVaper420]

So how often do you guys clean your pax, i was kinda interested in one but i dont wanna have to clean my vape to keep it working. Is this still an issue with the pax?

Yes, you'll need to clean it. Not very often, but often enough. The temp light is still an issue.

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

cleaning is unavoidable. If you're looking for something you dont have to clean you should not buy any vape Haha nice name

 

[pakalolo]

So how often do you guys clean your pax, i was kinda interested in one but i dont wanna have to clean my vape to keep it working. Is this still an issue with the pax?

The frequency of cleaning depends on what you put in the Pax. What I can say is that of all the vapourizers I own, the Pax is by far the most demanding when it comes to cleaning. I remain unconvinced that the temperature light problem is a cleaning issue, but if you don't clean your Pax frequently the taste is simply awful.

 

[Mendohead]

So how often do you guys clean your pax, i was kinda interested in one but i dont wanna have to clean my vape to keep it working. Is this still an issue with the pax?

Thats exactly what will happen. you'll have to clean it to have an even marginal working device. I returned mine a few weeks back ( thank you vapeworld ) cause i was so over it. I'd clean the crap out of it, and still would have problems... this was also before the whole blowing into the mp/ mp design change/new lube for pax. maybe these things work wonders. i hope they do for all you pax owners.

 

[JoeKickass]

if you don't clean your Pax frequently the taste is simply awful.

Thats exactly what will happen. you'll have to clean it to have an even marginal working device. I returned mine a few weeks back ( thank you vapeworld ) cause i was so over it. I'd clean the crap out of it, and still would have problems... this was also before the whole blowing into the mp/ mp design change/new lube for pax. maybe these things work wonders. i hope they do for all you pax owners.

Maybe my tastebuds are less sensitive or something but I only clean under the metal screen and the vapor path maybe twice a month. The bowl still tastes great on yellow imo!

I do wipe it out and clean the bowl after each sesh though, I also finish a bowl in about 10-20 mins and empty it rather than turn it on for a few hits throughout the day.

For me at least, it really does work wonders, the vapor is comparable to my last vape (the terrific HA) and it has never let me down unless I forgot to check the battery. I know blowing in the MP sounds a bit janky but it's simple physics and it solves the temp issue the first time, every time. Just heat the MP a bit with your lungs to get it started and you have a pocket-able heavy hitting vape that can work in any weather!

 

[pakalolo]

I know blowing in the MP sounds a bit janky but it's simple physics and it solves the temp issue the first time, every time.

Well it doesn't work every time for me. Perhaps you can explain the physics.

 

[TheDudeNextDoor]

A clean Pax is a happy Pax. Don't be scared of the cleaning regiment. It is not as bad as some make it out to be, and the temp light issue, while an issue with poor care, is really not much of an issue at all if you care for it reasonably. I have the lube on the way, so I will be able to report personally on how that works soon.

pakalolo, I don't understand the physics either. I still don't know why blowing into the mouthpiece works, but it does work for me every time. I have owned the Pax for about two months now and have used it daily since getting it. I deep clean it every 3-5 sessions or so and have taken to blowing into the mouthpiece before each session, and I never have the temp light issue anymore. It works flawlessly for me every time so far.

 

[CarlosSpiceyWeiner]

A clean Pax is a happy Pax. Don't be scared of the cleaning regiment. It is not as bad as some make it out to be, and the temp light issue, while an issue with poor care, is really not much of an issue at all if you care for it reasonably. I have the lube on the way, so I will be able to report personally on how that works soon.

pakalolo, I don't understand the physics either. I still don't know why blowing into the mouthpiece works, but it does work for me every time. I have owned the Pax for about two months now and have used it daily since getting it. I deep clean it every 3-5 sessions or so and have taken to blowing into the mouthpiece before each session, and I never have the temp light issue anymore. It works flawlessly for me every time so far.

I don't even need to blow into the bottom of the mouthpiece to get it working. I just put the end of the mouthpiece right up to the first groove between my lips to get it working every time.

I think it has to do with the stainless steel being cold. Not because of resin buildup. Warming the end just for a few seconds works for me without fail.

 

[JoeKickass]

pakalolo, I don't understand the physics either. I still don't know why blowing into the mouthpiece works, but it does work for me every time. I have owned the Pax for about two months now and have used it daily since getting it. I deep clean it every 3-5 sessions or so and have taken to blowing into the mouthpiece before each session, and I never have the temp light issue anymore. It works flawlessly for me every time so far.

Well my instinct says it's heat that makes it work, because as winter gets colder I'm seeing it more often lol.

There are two possibilities that I see, the heat is warming up a thin resin layer, or condensation is filling a gap between metal bits (like if you got a Pax with a defect, a catch that was too short or something)

Next time one of us gets the temp light, try warming the metal of the mouthpiece with a dry heat like a stove or lighter, if it works then we know it's just resin being heated and not a defect.

 

[CarlosSpiceyWeiner]

Well my instinct says it's heat that makes it work, because as winter gets colder I'm seeing it more often lol.

There are two possibilities that I see, the heat is warming up a thin resin layer, or condensation is filling a gap between metal bits (like if you got a Pax with a defect, a catch that was too short or something)

Next time one of us gets the temp light, try warming the metal of the mouthpiece with a dry heat like a stove or lighter, if it works then we know it's just resin being heated and not a defect.

IMO i don't think the resin is the cause. Only because it still happens even right after a cleaning.

 

[JoeKickass]

IMO i don't think the resin is the cause. Only because it still happens even right after a cleaning.

But that's assuming a simple iso wash is 100% effective on metal. I think cliff has it right:

My remedy for the temp light problem:

• Clean the stainless steel stem of the mouthpiece very thoroughly with ISO and steel wool
• Even a small amount of resin in any of the grooves can prevent the circuit from being completed
• ISO and steel wool all along the stainless steel, including the upper piece of the stainless steel where the small piece moves up and down.

Over time, light resin gets into the grooves and soaking the mouthpiece in ISO is then not enough.


This has been an easy and stable fix for me. I now use steel wool to clean that area in addition to soaking/wiping with ISO and it relieves the issue.

The main reason I think it's resin is because resin is hard when cold and liquid when warm and the temp light issue gets worse when cold and better when warm, just like the resin. You only need a few atom thick layer of resin for it to break contact...

 

[Bluntcrush]

New Pax arrived late yesterday and it seems to work well. after my session last night, I put a little of the lube on the stem (esp. the area with the sliding ring) so far nothing to report. I suppose it's possible that this lube might keep the area (still in question) warmer and thus more responsive to the contact. I wouldn't go too crazy with the lube because it might foul the workings of the temp control button, but this remains to be seen as Ploom said to use the lube liberally on the mp stem...

Will follow up when more is revealed to me...

 

[Mr.Krinkle]

I'm sending mine back to be repaired today, honestly I may bring it back to the store once I get my new one, I'm dissapointed they'd let a product out having this big a design flaw, the unibody construction is annoying. Its great at vaping, fast, holds a long charge, makes a nice hand warmer when its cold (Can I STRESS how awesome this is?! because it is.) but the cleanliness issue and multiple MP issues for 250 bucks is kinda bull shit. I shouldnt even have to send mine back, I should just be able to unpop it and buy a new MP. Granted the customer service is nice so far, I'm betting all these exchanges are getting old to them fast. I find the cera solves all my complaints, may look into those- anyone know anyone thats had the privilege of using one of those?

 

[pakalolo]

Well my instinct says it's heat that makes it work, because as winter gets colder I'm seeing it more often lol.

There are two possibilities that I see, the heat is warming up a thin resin layer, or condensation is filling a gap between metal bits (like if you got a Pax with a defect, a catch that was too short or something)

Next time one of us gets the temp light, try warming the metal of the mouthpiece with a dry heat like a stove or lighter, if it works then we know it's just resin being heated and not a defect.

Okay, explain this. I just popped up my MP, got the temp light three times in a row. I did it three times to make sure it was consistent. Then I removed the MP, poked the snorkel of my can of compressed air inside the stem and gave it a shot. Note that compressed air is a) cold and b) dry. Replaced the MP, got purple, i.e. no temp light. I've done this before with the same result.

Mind you, I cannot see how this makes any sense.