Pax really worth it?

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Billydee819

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Hey guys, new here but been vaping for years. My 1st was an extreme q or v tower or whatever so i got used to quality vapor from the get go(never bought one of those shitty eletric pipes). Anyways my question is should i really spend the 200+ dollars for a pax? Sure they look beautiful but i hear for anything under .4 or .5 you have to use some sort of screen trick, sounds annoying.i currently have a v2 pro series 3 with a loose leaf chamber which is on except the chamber is too small, i want the option of a larger chamber if i need it but i dont wanna have to pack it full everytime i vape a sesh.ive also been looking at a k- vale by kandy pens as its alot cheaper and boasts that it is a convection style vape.the pax , being a conduction style, is it really worth it to get a pax? Will the vapor quality really be that much better? Any insight is much appreciated. Happy vaping ✌️✌️
 

Billydee819

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Hey thanks for the fast reply. I browsed through there but it just says the usual about the design and whatnot, how to vape with just a half a bowl, etc... I think my main concern is simply that its a conduction vape meaning the material comes in direct contact with heat. Doesnt that mean it has to combust to some point? Idk just seems a little less efficient than a convection vape for the price range can anybody reccomend any alternatives in the 100$ range that can fit atleast .5 in the chamber like the pax?
 

subway13029

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I've heard the summit is a cheaper version. Of pax..not identical at all but similar in many ways ..very durable as well..it's called vapium by summit I believe..little more than 100 or my advice is look up the alpha by goboof..very nice small stealthy and good tasting vape.
 

Delta3DStudios

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Hey thanks for the fast reply. I browsed through there but it just says the usual about the design and whatnot, how to vape with just a half a bowl, etc... I think my main concern is simply that its a conduction vape meaning the material comes in direct contact with heat. Doesnt that mean it has to combust to some point? Idk just seems a little less efficient than a convection vape for the price range can anybody reccomend any alternatives in the 100$ range that can fit atleast .5 in the chamber like the pax?

Pro tip - skip to the last 20-30 pages of any vape thread to read how well the vape actually works for users (I rarely start at the beginning of any thread unless the vape came out within the past 6 months).

Basically, here's my take on the Pax vaporizers: They're stealth vaporizers. The main design inspiration is small size and stealth.

You trade a lot of performance and battery life for that Steath factor.

Yes the Pax2 is a major improvement over the Pax1, but it's still a stealthy vaporizer.

For the money, there are better vaporizers if you do not need Stealth (or willing to go a bit less stealthy).

Have you checked out the Flowermate vapes? Those seem like the best sub-$100 electronic PV on the market right now

I think my main concern is simply that its a conduction vape meaning the material comes in direct contact with heat. Doesnt that mean it has to combust to some point? Idk just seems a little less efficient than a convection vape

Conduction, Convection, and Radiation are the 3 basic modes of heat transfer. The propensity to combust does not change based on the heat transfer mode used.

Moreover, most vapes use a combination of 2 or 3 of those modes to vape the herbs. A vaporizer may favor conduction, or may favor convection. But many vaporizers actually have a little bit of both going on.

Combustion will only occur if the temperature reaches the flashover temperatures. If the oven stays below that temperature (as it should in any proper vaporizer), you should not combust.

True, conduction vaporizers work best when stuffed (conduction requires contact, so a stuffed oven provides more surface area throughout the load to transfer the heat). And Conduction vaporizers tend to provide a more "roasted" flavor from the herb. But even that isn't completely true. My Davinci Ascent vaporizer uses mostly conduction to heat the herb, and it's one the best tasting vaporizer I've owned.

Don't get hung up on the whole "Convection" vs "Conduction" aspect of vaporizing, go with what vaporizer fits your other needs (Stealth, efficiency, battery size, oven size, vapor density, etc).
 

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ive also been looking at a k- vale by kandy pens as its alot cheaper and boasts that it is a convection style vape
You don't have to go high priced to get good quality, but IMO you're aiming too low there.
Will the vapor quality really be that much better?
Depends on your definition of quality. Any vape, including the most basic homemade version, can produce the same vapor. It just comes down to how easily and how much per hit, depending on the particular design goal.
 

Billydee819

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Hmmm i see... Well i think i may just save up for the pax unless one of the other reccomendations really catches my eye. I know i complained about not being able to efficiently vape small amounts with the pax, however the more i think about it, it shouldnt be a problem since i do still have my v2 with herb cartridge.the ascent, arizer air, and a new pen called the hippie vape from a company nobody has ever heard of all look promising as well.btw, if anybody has used the hippie plz let me know how it went. I recently bought a divine tribe donut atty and battery so im expecting those any day now. The donut ring heating element really seemed interesting especially since they clame it wastes little to none if your concentrates. Ill keep you guys posted. ✌️
 
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