His_Highness
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
You had me at 'free'...shoot, you had me at 'legal'.....
Oregon votes in November on legalizing it!
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t-dub
Vapor Sloth
I have always said weed should be free to medical patients, my flowers have always been free with winterized BHO at just $10/gram. This takes that up a notch although its limited in scope. Oregon is the "Saudi Arabia" of pot and I love it here . . .
Early marijuana sales program in Oregon wins final legislative approval
Dispensaries could sell up to one-quarter ounce of dried marijuana to a recreational consumer per day, as well as seeds and up to four immature plants. They won't be allowed to buy extracts, cannabis-infused edibles and a wide range of other products available to medical marijuana patients.
Oregon Governor Signs New Law To Implement Marijuana Legalization
Dispensaries could sell up to one-quarter ounce of dried marijuana to a recreational consumer per day, as well as seeds and up to four immature plants. They won't be allowed to buy extracts, cannabis-infused edibles and a wide range of other products available to medical marijuana patients.
Oregon Governor Signs New Law To Implement Marijuana Legalization
nihil
Member, Known Well
So it's getting kind of weird here. It hasn't been a week, and already we have the "free weed" movement taking off rapidly. Legitimate medical growers are giving away free seeds, clones & flower. Keep in mind this is mostly Oregon top shelf.. free in the streets.. and it's perfectly legal.
The other night I got a call from a buddy that is in his 70's. He hasn't used in 30+ years, and expressed an interest, so I lent him a water pipe and gifted him some Master Kush and Chemdawg. We did a video chat and I see that he was trying to load the material in the carb.. good times.
I'm also getting a lot of calls and emails from friends asking where to get clones.. people that have no interest in consuming, but they want to grow some just for kicks. I'm the last guy I'd call for that info, so it shows the desperation people are going through after only a few days.
And the variety.. I am no where near the 8 ounce limit and I'm sitting on 15 different strains.
Lastly, and this is the best part for me, is that I now legally carry at least an 1/8 on me at all times without worry (thanks @JyARz). Then, if say a coworker expresses an interest, I'm all "here you go, let me know what you think." People are still speaking in hushed tones, but I think in a few months that will disappear entirely. Brave new world..
The other night I got a call from a buddy that is in his 70's. He hasn't used in 30+ years, and expressed an interest, so I lent him a water pipe and gifted him some Master Kush and Chemdawg. We did a video chat and I see that he was trying to load the material in the carb.. good times.
I'm also getting a lot of calls and emails from friends asking where to get clones.. people that have no interest in consuming, but they want to grow some just for kicks. I'm the last guy I'd call for that info, so it shows the desperation people are going through after only a few days.
And the variety.. I am no where near the 8 ounce limit and I'm sitting on 15 different strains.
Lastly, and this is the best part for me, is that I now legally carry at least an 1/8 on me at all times without worry (thanks @JyARz). Then, if say a coworker expresses an interest, I'm all "here you go, let me know what you think." People are still speaking in hushed tones, but I think in a few months that will disappear entirely. Brave new world..
nihil
Member, Known Well
Rural Oregon is very affordable.
Portland is getting pretty expensive, but I live in an expensive neighborhood so that I can bike to work. The savings in gas easily offsets the higher rent. I'm currently in a 1 story, turn of the century bungalow, with a dry basement for $1,300/month. If I moved to a neighborhood a bit further out, you're looking at maybe 1,000 - 1,200/month. Purchasing a home is getting ridiculous in the metro area, but not so bad in the suburbs.
When I'm in your shoes, I'm definitely going to purchase a home in the woods somewhere. I love the city, but am missing the country as I get older.
Keep in mind Oregon was a logging state at one time.. so we tend to be liberal along the I-5 corridor, conservative out in the sticks. A lot of us tend to be liberals that love our guns and drive trucks.
Portland is getting pretty expensive, but I live in an expensive neighborhood so that I can bike to work. The savings in gas easily offsets the higher rent. I'm currently in a 1 story, turn of the century bungalow, with a dry basement for $1,300/month. If I moved to a neighborhood a bit further out, you're looking at maybe 1,000 - 1,200/month. Purchasing a home is getting ridiculous in the metro area, but not so bad in the suburbs.
When I'm in your shoes, I'm definitely going to purchase a home in the woods somewhere. I love the city, but am missing the country as I get older.
Keep in mind Oregon was a logging state at one time.. so we tend to be liberal along the I-5 corridor, conservative out in the sticks. A lot of us tend to be liberals that love our guns and drive trucks.
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
There is also broad sentencing reform included in the new law with the ability to clear old convictions 
No more drug fucking war!!!
ALSO there will be NO TAX until January!!! Then it will be a single, 25% sales tax on rec sales during the "Early Start" period which reduces to 17% later.
Oregon Rewrites Marijuana Criminal Code to Reduce Most Felonies to Misdemeanors and to Make Prior Convictions Eligible to be Cleared.
Oregon Goes Beyond Other Legalization States to Reduce Harsh Marijuana Sentences and Allow for 78,319 Prior Marijuana Convictions to Potentially be Cleared.
The new law reduces most marijuana felonies to misdemeanors or lesser felonies with significantly reduced sentences. These changes allow eligible persons with prior marijuana convictions to have their convictions set aside, sentences reduced, and records sealed.
“A felony drug conviction carries significant collateral consequences that can mean the loss of public assistance, educational opportunities, employment, and housing,” says Tamar Todd, Director of Marijuana Law and Policy at the Drug Policy Alliance. “With this new law, Oregon is not only taking a bold step forward to end the war on drugs, but is actively addressing and reversing the terrible consequences of that war.”
The reforms will apply to thousands of Oregonians who were previously convicted of marijuana-related felonies. There are approximately 78,319 marijuana convictions included in the Oregon Computerized Criminal History file that have the potential to become eligible for the set aside process. In 2012, more than 12,000 people were cited or arrested for the possession of marijuana. Statewide, black people are more than twice as likely to be arrested or cited for marijuana possession as white people, even though both groups use marijuana at similar rates.
The new law allows individuals to apply to have prior marijuana convictions set aside as if they were convicted under the law’s new sentencing structure. For example, if a person was previously convicted of possessing over 8 ounces of marijuana, formerly a Class C felony punishable with up to 5 years in prison and a $125,000 fine, the conviction would be eligible to be treated under the law’s new classification of unlawful marijuana possession: a Class A misdemeanor. A person with a Class A misdemeanor conviction is eligible to have his or her conviction cleared under Oregon statute 137.225.
See link for chart outlining changes to marijuana crimes and offenses in the new law:
http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/2015...rijuana-legalization-includes-broad-sentencin
No more drug fucking war!!!
ALSO there will be NO TAX until January!!! Then it will be a single, 25% sales tax on rec sales during the "Early Start" period which reduces to 17% later.
Oregon Rewrites Marijuana Criminal Code to Reduce Most Felonies to Misdemeanors and to Make Prior Convictions Eligible to be Cleared.
Oregon Goes Beyond Other Legalization States to Reduce Harsh Marijuana Sentences and Allow for 78,319 Prior Marijuana Convictions to Potentially be Cleared.
The new law reduces most marijuana felonies to misdemeanors or lesser felonies with significantly reduced sentences. These changes allow eligible persons with prior marijuana convictions to have their convictions set aside, sentences reduced, and records sealed.
“A felony drug conviction carries significant collateral consequences that can mean the loss of public assistance, educational opportunities, employment, and housing,” says Tamar Todd, Director of Marijuana Law and Policy at the Drug Policy Alliance. “With this new law, Oregon is not only taking a bold step forward to end the war on drugs, but is actively addressing and reversing the terrible consequences of that war.”
The reforms will apply to thousands of Oregonians who were previously convicted of marijuana-related felonies. There are approximately 78,319 marijuana convictions included in the Oregon Computerized Criminal History file that have the potential to become eligible for the set aside process. In 2012, more than 12,000 people were cited or arrested for the possession of marijuana. Statewide, black people are more than twice as likely to be arrested or cited for marijuana possession as white people, even though both groups use marijuana at similar rates.
The new law allows individuals to apply to have prior marijuana convictions set aside as if they were convicted under the law’s new sentencing structure. For example, if a person was previously convicted of possessing over 8 ounces of marijuana, formerly a Class C felony punishable with up to 5 years in prison and a $125,000 fine, the conviction would be eligible to be treated under the law’s new classification of unlawful marijuana possession: a Class A misdemeanor. A person with a Class A misdemeanor conviction is eligible to have his or her conviction cleared under Oregon statute 137.225.
See link for chart outlining changes to marijuana crimes and offenses in the new law:
http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/2015...rijuana-legalization-includes-broad-sentencin
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great info, thanks so much! a home here is about .5 mil (and up), yearly taxes like 15k. I can probably do much better than that.
hd_rider
Well-Known Member
God, I wish Obama would just reschedule it already!
Instead, I live in one of the most fucked-up states in the union, where the authorities can come and take your kid away and lock you up for 30 years because you grow and use cannabis to fight cancer, crohn's, PTSD, and other diseases.
Congratulations, Oregon. Another chip falls in the fight for decriminalization / legalization.
Instead, I live in one of the most fucked-up states in the union, where the authorities can come and take your kid away and lock you up for 30 years because you grow and use cannabis to fight cancer, crohn's, PTSD, and other diseases.
Congratulations, Oregon. Another chip falls in the fight for decriminalization / legalization.
nihil
Member, Known Well
I speak like a renter, sorry.. my rental was valued at 230k when I moved in a few years back. Now it is closer to 270k with the recovery. So, if you're single or a couple with no kids, 300k and above would get you something pretty decent. 500k and up, you'd be living very well.. especially 20-30 minutes out of town. This is avoiding all of the bad neighborhoods, they're not worth the hassle (been there, done that).
I've lived all over, and I consider Oregon the best from my experiences. Even without the new legislation, Oregon is a great place to live, more so if you like outdoor activities.
Back on topic, anyone from WA, AK or CO have any input on when the social stigma went away, or is it still there among some crowds? Just had a call from a friend and caught myself talking in code again. He told me I don't have to do that anymore..
Full legalization is fucking awesome. There's another convention today, $40 cover charge, but you get up to 7 grams from various vendors. Then you can use their vape demo room. Hopefully this turns more people onto vaporization rather than combustion.
And @t-dub, how are things down south? I read that article this morning on reversing convictions. I hope that sets a precedent when other states eventually decide to recreationally legalize cannabis.
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Ssssshhhh . . . we don't want too many people coming here and spoiling things . . .
Things are very nice down here in TrackTown USA. Homes are value priced. My house which is about 2k sq feet, relatively new construction, is worth about 300k and property tax is 4k/year. My water, sewer, and electric runs about 200/month with natural gas about 50/month. Thanks to Uncle Phil we have world class football and basketball stadiums and plenty of arts and entertainment as well. Everything is a five or ten minute drive away.
Cannabis wise supply is overabundant and prices are low, or for me, free.
Edit: And no sales tax, except for rec weed starting in January. Which means when you shop online, no tax either.
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gangababa
Well-Known Member
Ssssshhhh . . . we don't want too many people coming here and spoiling things . . .
...Edit: And no sales tax, except for rec weed starting in January. Which means when you shop online, no tax either.
Plus, in Oregon others pump your gas. In @t-dub town, a daily rush hour commute cross town is, as t-dub says, 15 minutes. A traffic jam is a Saturday home game and each year at this time, the tribes gather prior to an ancient annual ritual of renewal known as the Country Fair. BTW, the 4+ decades old hippie gathering banned pot years ago.
I've only been in CO for 2 months, but from what the budtender have told me was there are mostly 2 groups of people on Colorado - those who use cannabis and those who don't care.
I've openly discussed it with the local post office post master, heard people talking about it at restaurants. People walk around stores laughing, red eyed, enjoying the high life.
Coloradans from what I can see are pretty happy folks in general. Even out in the sticks the votes were still close on legalization. 55/45 where I live. I'm about 60 miles away from a larger city in every direction. I see people high all the time and nobody seems to care.
Legalization is great, I just hope we all respect it and give it the good reputation it deserves. We are setting examples every day for the entire world.
Congrats to those who've made the way across the trenches. Especially to who have lived in the states and supported it with their votes.
This transplant thanks you all.
nihil
Member, Known Well
@psychonaut Thank you. That is a very good summary of what I was looking for. I've been to Colorado a few times, was always impressed with the people there.. very down to earth and tolerant. Out here is about the same, pioneering spirit and all that. So it looks like we'll have a similar vibe out here pretty quickly.
And hell yes to respecting it and setting an example. Everyone that reads this, please think about driving under the influence. I've lost a few friends and all that, plan ahead.. it's a pretty simple routine to get into.
And hell yes to respecting it and setting an example. Everyone that reads this, please think about driving under the influence. I've lost a few friends and all that, plan ahead.. it's a pretty simple routine to get into.
Jokermachine
Well-Blown Member
Exciting times for Oregon. Looks like a mountain biking trip to Bend is in order. This legalization stuff just seems like a dream that I'm gonna wake up to and find out it never happened. Thank God, it's real and coming to my state soon.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
There is still a social stigma in my community towards cannabis. I live in SW Washington and many folks say live and let live, but some people don't want it in their backyards. Some cities have voted against having the evil weed in their neighborhoods.
Keep close watch and protection with your medical cannabis if your state has legal cannabis now. The state may want to combine recreational and medical together. Don't let that happen, I've said this before. Just a word to the wise.
Congratulations Oregon my sister state! So many beautiful beaches in Oregon.
Keep close watch and protection with your medical cannabis if your state has legal cannabis now. The state may want to combine recreational and medical together. Don't let that happen, I've said this before. Just a word to the wise.
Congratulations Oregon my sister state! So many beautiful beaches in Oregon.
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t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Measure 91 states that the “Act may not be construed … to amend or affect in any way the Oregon Medical Marijuana Act.”. However being vigilant is wise because the legislature is not to be trusted.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
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PORTLAND, Ore. -- A lot of changes have happened since recreational marijuana became legal in Oregon on July 1st. One of those changes is still raising eyebrows.
At Portland's Airport, you can now legally board a plane with up to an ounce of marijuana. The caveat is, the flight has to be an "in-state" flight.
TSA agents say they are not focused on finding marijuana, their job is to spot safety and security issues. So, if you have up to an ounce of marijuana with you while going through a security checkpoint, agents will check your ticket. They'll want to make sure your destination city is either North Bend, Redmond, Eugene, Pendleton or Medford.
KGW
Marijuana at airports: Colo., Wash. adjust to new laws
"Traveling across state lines is still a federal crime," said Steve Johnson, with the Port of Portland. "However, if someone is flying within the state to another destination in the state, traveling with recreational marijuana is allowable if they meet all the legal requirements."
Not sure what the laws are in WA far as flying within the state. Hopefully the whole west coast will be legal after 2016. Maybe we'll be able to take our bud with us when we fly legal state to legal state. The wave of legal has started. It's coming to your state.
PORTLAND, Ore. -- A lot of changes have happened since recreational marijuana became legal in Oregon on July 1st. One of those changes is still raising eyebrows.
At Portland's Airport, you can now legally board a plane with up to an ounce of marijuana. The caveat is, the flight has to be an "in-state" flight.
TSA agents say they are not focused on finding marijuana, their job is to spot safety and security issues. So, if you have up to an ounce of marijuana with you while going through a security checkpoint, agents will check your ticket. They'll want to make sure your destination city is either North Bend, Redmond, Eugene, Pendleton or Medford.
KGW
Marijuana at airports: Colo., Wash. adjust to new laws
"Traveling across state lines is still a federal crime," said Steve Johnson, with the Port of Portland. "However, if someone is flying within the state to another destination in the state, traveling with recreational marijuana is allowable if they meet all the legal requirements."
Not sure what the laws are in WA far as flying within the state. Hopefully the whole west coast will be legal after 2016. Maybe we'll be able to take our bud with us when we fly legal state to legal state. The wave of legal has started. It's coming to your state.
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t-dub
Vapor Sloth
No you can't because as the article clearly says, crossing state lines with cannabis is a federal crime. It does not matter if the state you are crossing into is legal, just crossing the state line with cannabis is a federal crime in and of itself. I believe it falls under the interstate commerce regulations.
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vakednotfried
i get vaked and hit vongs is it so wrong?
oh the jealousy. Why can't my country play catch up already, only can prey
woolspinner
Well-Known Member
It depends. I live in the Denver-Metro.
People openly make remarks and crack jokes, but most still use caution before discussing it with anyone they do not know well. If you are in a crowd of strangers, you will be more comfortable discussing it with your friend. I have to keep it hidden from work collegues. They can openly discuss how drunk they got, or how much they need a martini after a hard day, but I dare not say I intend to take a hit of Blueberry when I get home.
I am older, though, old enough to remember that marijuana was decriminalized for most of my youth in Oregon. I suppose a younger person may throw caution to the wind and tell everyone they just met that they just bought a new vaporizer but I am not that incautious.
You see more and more rentals now specifying "no 420" or "no smoking of ANY kind".
My work still drug tests (hire only, no random), and we are a software comapany. I read that many companies get a discount on their liability insurance if they hire only "clean" employees. We know what a crock THAT is....marijuana stays detectable way longer than any other substance. Fuckers.
Overall, I am getting over the shame and fear aspects, but I still feel like I need to keep it on the down low. My landlord did not have a smoking policy, but I would rather he not come in to repair something and smell mj - I feel more like a "don't ask/don't tell" policy still holds in some circumstances - my job, my housing.
So, maybe for younger people it will be easier to just let their 420 flag fly, (or for those who are unconventional anyway) but for anyone over 35, we are still finding our cautious way out into the open.
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grokit
well-worn member
In AK there's a lot of bornagain types, that are now against mj because they're told to be, even if they used to be for it. But other than these conservative church-types, and there are quite a few of these, nobody really gives a shit up here. The only thing that changed is small grows now have more codified protections, but they were pretty much protected before. The attitude is still just keep it in the closet, literally.
edit; if I re-locate in retirement outside AK, one of the areas I really like is coastal washington, just north of the oregon border. It seems to offer the best of both worlds, low taxes in WA and no sales tax in OR. And now the mj thing seems to reinforce this advantage, even if it's technically illegal to transport it home from a federal standpoint. But no grows of any kind in WA (medical or not, really?) kind of ruins it for me.
edit; if I re-locate in retirement outside AK, one of the areas I really like is coastal washington, just north of the oregon border. It seems to offer the best of both worlds, low taxes in WA and no sales tax in OR. And now the mj thing seems to reinforce this advantage, even if it's technically illegal to transport it home from a federal standpoint. But no grows of any kind in WA (medical or not, really?) kind of ruins it for me.
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CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
@woolspinner I understand what you are saying. Even though cannabis is legal here in WA state there is a lot of prejudice surrounding our fav plant. It's just years of ingrained negative info that they've been throwing at society kinda like brainwashing.
I have a job that is in a very conservative field so I keep my medical and rec use on the down low as well. I do go to a medical mj farmers market where there are other patients buying their meds at the same time, so there is a lot of exposure. I get tired of living in the closet far as cannabis is concerned. Fuck people and their predjudice and narrow minded views.
I haven't gone to a rec store yet. When the prices come down I will. Many areas is still pretty expensive even though it's come down in price from a year ago.
Hopefully with the new tax structure there will be cheaper prices. If not many folks will be crossing the boarder to buy their bud in Oregon if it is cheaper.
This will work out well for our friend @t-dub. He has a new medical dispensary and the Oregon citizens will be able to buy this fall from medical mj dispensaries. Good luck with your new store. That is different than the way WA started selling rec cannabis. I like Oregon's way much better. Maybe WA can take some lesson from OR.
I have a job that is in a very conservative field so I keep my medical and rec use on the down low as well. I do go to a medical mj farmers market where there are other patients buying their meds at the same time, so there is a lot of exposure. I get tired of living in the closet far as cannabis is concerned. Fuck people and their predjudice and narrow minded views.
I haven't gone to a rec store yet. When the prices come down I will. Many areas is still pretty expensive even though it's come down in price from a year ago.
Hopefully with the new tax structure there will be cheaper prices. If not many folks will be crossing the boarder to buy their bud in Oregon if it is cheaper.
This will work out well for our friend @t-dub. He has a new medical dispensary and the Oregon citizens will be able to buy this fall from medical mj dispensaries. Good luck with your new store. That is different than the way WA started selling rec cannabis. I like Oregon's way much better. Maybe WA can take some lesson from OR.
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gangababa
Well-Known Member
OK. I am an old-one. I tasted the evil weed before nasty Nixon's war on drugs and nattering nabobs of negativism, but after Anslinger's asininity.
Although I've no memory, I likely saw anti-dope propaganda in school.
Certainly I learned to speak in code for I too led two lives. I have surreptitiously blown smoke in six countries and 30-odd states; I lost count. We all talked about cannabis behind closed doors.
Now this story.
A week after Oregon went legal, I was getting gas. The 'pumper' was also an old-one and talked of his work with young people, poor management in under-staffing the gas station on the upcoming big Oregon Country Faire weekend, his young son, plans to work for friends in their new business, the dilemma of getting rid of over-limit clones...
...I suggested gas station clone give-a-ways for 12 gallon purchases, but I got none.
Hey!!! If I can have 8 ounces in the house, can I have two singles in the car between the, ahem, "gifter" and my door?
Although I've no memory, I likely saw anti-dope propaganda in school.
Certainly I learned to speak in code for I too led two lives. I have surreptitiously blown smoke in six countries and 30-odd states; I lost count. We all talked about cannabis behind closed doors.
Now this story.
A week after Oregon went legal, I was getting gas. The 'pumper' was also an old-one and talked of his work with young people, poor management in under-staffing the gas station on the upcoming big Oregon Country Faire weekend, his young son, plans to work for friends in their new business, the dilemma of getting rid of over-limit clones...
...I suggested gas station clone give-a-ways for 12 gallon purchases, but I got none.
Hey!!! If I can have 8 ounces in the house, can I have two singles in the car between the, ahem, "gifter" and my door?