Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils

[ru_frothi]

If you can come up tonight or tomorrow I am more than happy to try to make things right. I can come to your place too if that is better? I want you to continue to be happy with your results like you were a page or two back. When I first read your post I was thinking your wife hacked your account due to jealousy of your new favorite toy, lol, but then it sunk in.

If the one I filled was fine then something must have happened when you filled it. I want to say it's the torch getting the cone and then cart too hot but I'm lost. Please, let's work together to make you a happy camper again.

we'll see. I've invested a fair amount of time and money and have very little to show for it. Except a product thats not working for me. I've gone above and beyond the time and effort I spent trying to learn to use this product effectively. at this time I'd rather the other folks act as beta testers than me. I've done my beta testing and reached tenative conclusion. Unfortuntely 24 hours now with no reply from THC Scientifc. Hopefully we can get this wrapped up quickly.

 

[funkin]

I can't explain it. Cart#3 where we filled 1/2G at your place worked flawlessly till it ran dry (pretty quick, < 100 hits). added the rest after it ran dry and it leaked. cart #4 filled in a indentical fashion. it primed easily after a few pulls and then immedialtely started oozing earwax. Cart#3 was the only one that was reliable and I've had nothing but issues with the rest.

I think I've figured out your problem, based on this statement. If Cart #3 worked flawlessly when someone else with more practice set it up, and all the other carts failed when you set them up, that points towards user error -- specifically your technique. Especially since Cart #3 worked until you added more concentrate.

I'd bet that you over-heat the cartridges when adding your concentrates. Either you are applying the heat too low on the cartridge, or you are applying too much heat for too long at the top. The heat diffuses throughout the metal, so if the top gets hot enough, the bottom will as well, which is essentially like heating the bottom of the cartridge directly.

Think about it -- all the carts you loaded have leaked. The one someone else loaded did not leak. Even the wax you loaded leaked from the cartridge. Meanwhile, most people find waxes to be the easiest concentrate to avoid problems with.

Your problem is specifically about leaking, which says something. Most people who encounter problems from drawing too hard end up with clogs, unless they are using poor quality concentrates (typically darker colored hash oils), which seem to lead to minor leaks as well. Others have (on rare occasion) encountered dud cartridges which don't heat up. But from the dozens of pages of forum posts I've read on this topic, the only people I've seen having trouble with heavy leaking out of the bottom of the cartridge are those who over-heated the cartridges when adding their concentrates.

I know you don't want to spend more money, but you really need to consider that you simply did not follow the instructions carefully. I'm guessing that if you bought new cartridges and had someone like DubCRider help you fill them, they'd turn out fine. Especially if you use quality concentrates, specifically waxes or putties.

 

[ru_frothi]

I can't explain it. Cart#3 where we filled 1/2G at your place worked flawlessly till it ran dry (pretty quick, < 100 hits). added the rest after it ran dry and it leaked. cart #4 filled in a indentical fashion. it primed easily after a few pulls and then immedialtely started oozing earwax. Cart#3 was the only one that was reliable and I've had nothing but issues with the rest.

I think I've figured out your problem, based on this statement. If Cart #3 worked flawlessly when someone else with more practice set it up, and all the other carts failed when you set them up, that points towards user error -- specifically your technique. Especially since Cart #3 worked until you added more concentrate.

I'd bet that you over-heat the cartridges when adding your concentrates. Either you are applying the heat too low on the cartridge, or you are applying too much heat for too long at the top. The heat diffuses throughout the metal, so if the top gets hot enough, the bottom will as well, which is essentially like heating the bottom of the cartridge directly.

Think about it -- all the carts you loaded have leaked. The one someone else loaded did not leak. Even the wax you loaded leaked from the cartridge. Meanwhile, most people find waxes to be the easiest concentrate to avoid problems with.

Your problem is specifically about leaking, which says something. Most people who encounter problems from drawing too hard end up with clogs, unless they are using poor quality concentrates (typically darker colored hash oils), which seem to lead to minor leaks as well. Others have (on rare occasion) encountered dud cartridges which don't heat up. But from the dozens of pages of forum posts I've read on this topic, the only people I've seen having trouble with heavy leaking out of the bottom of the cartridge are those who over-heated the cartridges when adding their concentrates.

I know you don't want to spend more money, but you really need to consider that you simply did not follow the instructions carefully. I'm guessing that if you bought new cartridges and had someone like DubCRider help you fill them, they'd turn out fine. Especially if you use quality concentrates, specifically waxes or putties.

What instructions? I've watched the videos,been to DubC's house, talk to G on the phone, read everything, tried everything. I'm not having any luck.

I just want a refund. I appreciate the speculation but its speculation thats incomplete. I'm sorry I dont have time to document every detail for the folks at home. I'm just sharing my experiences.

For Example: I filled the cart that didn't leak at dubC's house under supervision. I also filled #4 using the same method and less heat with the same concentrate and it leaks like crazy.

 

[DubCRider]

I can come to you remember....

All I can offer is experience, I have filled a lot of carts for people and you are the only one with problems. I am more than happy to fill all your carts for you at no cost if you supply the concentrates. I can pretty much guarantee your satisfaction.

 

[ru_frothi]

I can come to you remember....

All I can offer is experience, I have filled a lot of carts for people and you are the only one with problems. I am more than happy to fill all your carts for you at no cost if you supply the concentrates. I can pretty much guarantee your satisfaction.

We'll see if our schedules line up. I did talk to G today and hopefully our schedules will line up this weekend.

I want to love this device.

 

[DubCRider]

I'll give you my favorite cart if you don't love it after we meet up.

Can I see a pic of how much oil is coming out? Either way we will get you sorted this weekend.

 

[Adobewan]

Can I just say I haven't ever seen a customer service person reach so persistently to help a client. You rock Dub and so does your avatar! I'm a film illustrator but I'm betting that artist had more fun doing that piece than all of my work put together.

Also, wanted to mention, Gary has called me and e-mailed me each time I've had a question or comment.
I started using mine night before last with no issues and so far it really does meet the hype if not surpass it. Once I've lived with it, I'll give more feedback as well as how it matches up to the Gentleman's Stick(and the E-joint, if I've tried it by then).

For those who feel it's expensive, here's something to consider.
I've come to find some collectives have 20% off for first time customers. Find one that sells the Omicron and offers that special, get the double for as low as $160, split with a friend, get one for $80, plus 1/2 the cost of an extra power supply(available within two weeks I'm told.)

Best luck with your Omicron issues rufrothy, I sincerely feel for where you are, none of use would want to be there, but I believe you are in the best customer service hands, and you WILL love this device once you issues are covered.

 

[Dave_Countryman]

For those who feel the Omicron kit is expensive check out the atmos, they sell express kits for $89 and free shipping, you can use the omicron cartridges because theyre the same threading. I have an atmos and currently use the omicron fill your carts and love it. Atmos is also accepting trade in of ivapor or similar pen vaporizers for an atmos express kit for $50. Check out their website http://www.atmosrx.com/

 

[DubCRider]

Feel free to start your own thread Dave.....

 

[vapor 4 life]

I also am having leaking issues with my carts. I have two carts going right now One with some light yellow colored bho from a friend and the second some bho that was made from sour d and og kush and vac purged. Both carts clog and then leak. they leak from the center bottom hole. I bought the second concentrate because thc scientific told me my problem might be low quality oil. Both carts worked fine for the first 50 or so hits then clog then leak all over the battery. I wipe and paperclip the hole and after 20 30 mins I can usually get the unit working again. When filling I heated the top with my lighter to melt down the oil. You guys think this is my problem. Is anyone other Rufrothy and myself having this issue? Thc sci and Dubc what should I do next. Do you guys suggest the "Dailic" method for filling the cart?
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[DubCRider]

If you are burning the cart be sure to hold it, about where the mouthpiece ends while on, to gauge how hot the cart is getting during burning/filling. If it burns your fingers it is bad.

I haven't seen either of the leaking carts to compare. Dark(dirty) oils will do that but if you get some lighter stuff it should work way better. If you are gonna be at the expo in SF this weekend come by the booth so I can check it out.

 

[408_Grow]

I'll be out n about in SF today, if anyone needs help or anything

 

[vapor 4 life]

@ Dubc both my carts are filled with light colored almost translucent oils made from buds. I will try the finger burn method to see if I am overheating which is causing my leaks. I live hours and hours away from sf I wish I could meet up with you to learn more about the Omicron.

 

[weedemon]

nice you guys are all so close locally to help out! mine is still going! the honey moon is over, and i a not using it exclusively anymore. but it's still seeing regular rotation! jsut waiting on a new pickup to make a fresh batch of oil. the strain will be mighty mite! always wanted to give it a go a Canadian strain!

Mighty Mite cannabis seeds is a famous BC indica strain from the Himalayas cultivated for 12 - 15 years here. It is uniquely suitable for indoor or outdoor cultivation. All Mighty Mite cannabis seeds varieties and hybrids feature a dominant main cola that explodes in the 6th to 8th week of flowering.

on a side note my buddy and i both had oil come out the bottom of the cart and get onto the battery part. both are still working fine, we checked, noticed and cleaned it up right away.

I also noticed that i though my carts were hitting way weaker. it's been a week, and I have had to charge the battery 3 times, (ive kinda been using it a lot though) so i figured make sense, it's probably getting close to pooched. I weighed my carts and to my surprise there is still 0.3-0.4 g of oil still in there. do you guys think i should top it off? maybe i will get bigger hits again then? I dont have any more oil of the same strain though it would be new oils. i figure thats no issue though. they are all awesome

 

[ru_frothi]

Congrats on the Elemental Wellness event. Hope it went well. They are featuring the omicron on their full color menu today at least (it was there yesterday too)

http://elementalwellnesscenter.com/Menu/StrainMenu.html#Concentrates

 

[408_Grow]

DubCRider: any spots to get some for ass concentrates?? I would love that Cherrypie C02..anything you recommend? I'll be all over the city

 

[DubCRider]

Check the menu at SPARC, Waterfall Wellness, Green Door, and 1944 ocean. All have a stellar oil/wax selection.

 

[408_Grow]

Check the menu at SPARC, Waterfall Wellness, Green Door, and 1944 ocean. All have a stellar oil/wax selection.

Thanks!will do now..

 

[vaporSS]

Wassup everyone!

Just joined in to show off my customized Omicron! I got this earlier this week and I love it. The convenience of toking up wherever is awesome. And DubC has personally helped me out very willingly. He's definitely a cool dude! Anyway here is my toy wrapped in 3M CarbonFiber vinyl:

 

[ru_frothi]

Wassup everyone!

Just joined in to show off my customized Omicron! I got this earlier this week and I love it. The convenience of toking up wherever is awesome. And DubC has personally helped me out very willingly. He's definitely a cool dude! Anyway here is my toy wrapped in 3M CarbonFiber vinyl:

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss37/franks420/IMAG0047-1.jpg

Very Nice

 

[ru_frothi]

Check the menu at SPARC, Waterfall Wellness, Green Door, and 1944 ocean. All have a stellar oil/wax selection.

The West Coast Cannabis expo at the Cow Palace where we were hanging tonight had the NitroOG Wax guys there with G's for $20. That same wax sells for $50 generally at collectives. Another FC'er loaded up a cart with the Nitro OG and we passed it around and it tasted great and boy it packed quite a punch. Elemental recently started selling it again after it was originally pulled for some contaminents. The batch they had Steephill Tested was 79.4% THC. It seemed much stronger than the OG CO2 concentrate and had an even more pleasent slightly lemon taste. Everyone was in agreement.

Anyway, managed to make it to the Show today and it was cool scene. I'm really glad that I made the trip up to the cow palace today to hang with DubC and G. THC Scientific was setup in the back of the Prop 215 area sharing a big double wide booth with Swerve and the crew from Cali Connection. I brought my rig and 2 different carts that I had cleaned out several days ago and just left to dry. DubC got em both rollin and started passin em around. 0 issues. We gave them a good workout. No Issues. Talked with G for a while and he comes up with a theory that its getting too hot where I'm storing the unit and I beleive he is right. I even remember driving home that a CO2 extract in my stash box had melted and oozed to the other side of the container. Its been a little warm here lately and I think the units resting temp is just too hot. Certainly 90F + on some hot days we had in the last few weeks. I am going to store the omicron in a cooler place and hope for the best. I'm optimistic again. G and DubC are super cool and really out there trying to spread the word and make everything right with all their customers. G was running around moving and shaking and after talking with him more I'm even more positive about the future. I have no doubt if I do have issues in the future he'll make it right. I'm lucky to be local and very happy I made the trip. I'm gonna fill up some of the NitroOG in the morning.

BTW: Lot of dispensarys and a lot of great promotions going on. donate $35 for a grinder and get an 1/8th of your choice of some top shelf indoor for free as way of saying thanks. at least 8-12 dispensaries and it appeared that many edible providers, a number of the leading name brand concentrate folks PureGold, Nitro OG, PhillipsOG to name a few I saw. In general there were a lot of good show deals that were cheaper than san jose prices with overall what I would say was excellent quality. everyone brought the A strains. The Show was chill tonight but I expect a bigger crowd on Saturday. I smelled some Chocolope that was just heavenly!

smoking area outside and stage for the live music. oakland was outside, didn't have any music and was wicked crowded compared to tonight at the cow palace.

Thanks again to DubC and the THC Scientific crew

 

[vaporSS]

Sounds like good times, gonna try to make it there tomorrow.

 

[DubCRider]

Yup, good times tonight. Tomorrow is going to be crazy! We loaded a half gram of SPARC oil in to a cart and it lasted all day. Going to see how far in to tomorrow it gets before it needs a refill.

 

[vaporSS]

Just got back awhile ago from the EXPO...saw DubC and the gang, picked up some nitro OG and some pure gold for my omicron. Ready for my trip!

 

[DubCRider]

I am rippppppppped from the expo! I did so many demo hits! Only 9 units left in stock for tomorrow.