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Sooooo, i bought a Alpha Globe 1701 Ceramic Doughnut 5pk
buuuut, i only go the little ceramic wicks? Nothing to put them in? No atomizers to screw into the globe??? Did not recieve the heating elements
as it says it includes;
  • 5 x Ceramic heating elements with black ceramic wick

I'm pretty sure the stuff i got is wrong, since that shit cost me 40$s, and they got the same individual wicks with no heating element on w9teh for 13$s

the shipping was super fucking fast so i'm happy about that... but can you guys help me out?

we can help yes but Sam needs a ticket to document everything submit on from the oil vaporizer side and all will be handled.
 
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FUnhouse

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I need to buy some new attys .
Cant decide between the ceramic and the Quartz double coils
Any thought from the crowd ?
 
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StormyPinkness

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I like the quartz at 3.7, the taste is pretty good. The coils are smaller and deeper in the cup which is actually a little taller. There's pro's and con's to that, depends on what you like. Too harsh and burnt for me at 7.4.

I have a hard time using the ceramic ones well at 3.7, it's a little weak for me. At 7.4 it's my daily driver now. Overall I prefer the ceramic, but I like the quartz and actually use it to vape resin/reclaim and save the ceramic for my better oil. I don't know about how it affects taste, but as far as absorbing and holding onto wax ceramic seems like the better option to me.
 
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Hoosier

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I have been tinkering with the idea of getting a herc for a long time now. I have never tried one, but certainly respected the opinions of so many people on here/Reddit.

So, I was stoked today, when be chance, I ran into a buddy who was bragging about his new herc+persei setup. My impression? Underwhelmed. It was nice, but not sure it lived up to my (unrealistic) expectations. Maybe I have just been using my h-enail too much lately and want low temp+tasty dabs hits all the time!
 

THC SCIENTIFIC

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before
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I have been tinkering with the idea of getting a herc for a long time now. I have never tried one, but certainly respected the opinions of so many people on here/Reddit.

So, I was stoked today, when be chance, I ran into a buddy who was bragging about his new herc+persei setup. My impression? Underwhelmed. It was nice, but not sure it lived up to my (unrealistic) expectations. Maybe I have just been using my h-enail too much lately and want low temp+tasty dabs hits all the time!

The correct thread to discuss this is the Persei thread. You can ask everyone else what they think of it and i promise you you will get the full feedback that you desire.
 
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DreamHaze

Psychonaughty
Woah, the ceramic donuts hit like a mini rig...
think i'm gonna have to get a 40w to replace my current 30w eleaf for these


oh and out of the 6 donut atomizers, 2 don't seem to fit into my alpha globe 510 mod
where as 2 donut atomizer cannot screw into my 510 ego thread alpha globe lol

all is good tho.
 
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Dj Bass

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Anyone have pictures of the inside of an Omega chamber? I like the price and the battery design, but I really want to see how the coil is wrapped, how much metal/wick is in the cartridge, how tall the chamber is, and how it all fits together. I have a yocan evolve, and think it's pretty perfect EXCEPT for the lack of a titanium coil option, and the lack of battery capacity/inability to charge from micro USB. If the Omega is a comparable device in chamber design (please have a chamber cap...please...) I would switch in a heartbeat. Anybody have answers to these questions?
 

SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
Sure thing, this is the inside of the Prime Oil Cartridge that comes with an Omega vaporizer;

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The Omegas are plenty powerful enough to run the Dual coil Prime cartridges, too, which look like this inside:

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Dj Bass

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Thanks! looks good. Additional question to anyone who's used a "prime cartridge": How is it at containing the oil/wax once it's in there and sizzling? Also, how is the airflow/what is the design for airflow? If possible how does the airflow compare to others you've used? I can't see any holes for pulling through...
 
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mixchu69

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Thanks! looks good. Additional question to anyone who's used a "prime cartridge": How is it at containing the oil/wax once it's in there and sizzling? Also, how is the airflow/what is the design for airflow? If possible how does the airflow compare to others you've used? I can't see any holes for pulling through...
I have been using the prime cartridges from oil vaporizer and enjoy it. Purchased a 5 pack during their sale (close to $25 for 5 dual tigr2 ceramic attys) and found airflow great. Less splatter than original kiss cart (but I usually put a small dab, let it melt in, and take 2-3 long pulls and then refill).
 

StormyPinkness

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Thanks! looks good. Additional question to anyone who's used a "prime cartridge": How is it at containing the oil/wax once it's in there and sizzling? Also, how is the airflow/what is the design for airflow? If possible how does the airflow compare to others you've used? I can't see any holes for pulling through...

I overload the hell out of mine putting in enough for 2-3 sessions. Eventually the walls and top of the mp get coated and I just scrape it off and vape it. Though if you keep it in your pocket it could get warm enough to leak out one of the 2 air intake holes on the side. I also do a couple of cooldown draws when I'm done vaping to help the wax get more solid and not leak. I use it like that to take it to hockey games and events. It's perfect for doing small doses at a time too though. Oh and I use the dual coil.
 

ronalicious

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So I purchased the Alpha Omega 8 Bundle Kit a while back, and so far everything has been good. This evening I got it into my head to try the atomizers with my Yocan EXgo v1. While it works fine with the globe, it doesn't fire for the cartridge. At first, I thought it may just be a weird threading thing, but they all seem to be 510 ego.

Hoping someone has run across this before... but guessing that it's just some weird finnicky battery stuff and I'm SOL.
 
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SamuraiSam

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So I purchased the Alpha Omega 8 Bundle Kit a while back, and so far everything has been good. This evening I got it into my head to try the atomizers with my Yocan EXgo v1. While it works fine with the globe, it doesn't fire for the cartridge. At first, I thought it may just be a weird threading thing, but they all seem to be 510 ego.

Hoping someone has run across this before... but guessing that it's just some weird finnicky battery stuff and I'm SOL.
lI have no idea what kind of battery comes with that kit but if the battery is a lower quality generic E-cig battery it may have a safety feature that prevents it from firing sub-ohm coils like are included with the Alpha Omega 8 kit.

If you can find any specs on the battery that came with it please let me know and I'll do my best to dig further.
 

Dj Bass

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Hey guys. Enjoying the hell out of my Alpha Globe with the default atomizer, but I've been reading up on Ti coils, and have some questions/concerns. I've been reading on e-cig gorums that getting Ti glowing is a bad idea, because the glow temp is pretty much around the temp TiO2 starts to be produced. It was stated that TiO2 poses a health risk when inhaled by humans, but I don't know much about it definitively. Also it was mentioned that a method to mitigate the production of this gas was to use Temperature Controlled battery (one that registers the ohm rating and material type to lower its wattage over a long pull.)

Question one: Should Ti coils (such as the ones used it the Alpha Globe) only be used on temperature controlled batteries? If so, are there any battery/temperature setting recommendations?

Question two: Are Ti coils safe to glow? If they are glowing with recommended use settings am I possibly endangering my health long term?

Question three (related to two): Are there any test results that can confirm the lack of hazardous TiO2 off gassing when the coils are getting hot enough to glow?

Don't mean to be a debbie downer about Ti coils or anything, I just figured it's a matter of general interest to this community, and I know the coils from oilvaporizer.com are all Titanium type, so I figured y'all would be up on the info.
 
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fluffhead

Recovering Idealist
I just wanted to give a quick shoutout to @SamuraiSam and say thanks. I got great customer service a few weeks back with some thorough and honest answers. It is great when someone will help a noob and not take advantage, giving answers that didn't necessarily fill the cart but helped me. Thanks! :rockon:
 

StormyPinkness

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I just wanted to give a quick shoutout to @SamuraiSam and say thanks. I got great customer service a few weeks back with some thorough and honest answers. It is great when someone will help a noob and not take advantage, giving answers that didn't necessarily fill the cart but helped me. Thanks! :rockon:
I had a very similar experience with @SamuraiSam when I first came on fc too. Some great honest/helpful advice.
 

SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
Thanks for all the kind words everybody, It's always great to be able to share a bit of info that ends up increasing your happiness level and make sure your vape experience is as great as mine. Thanks for for helping me have fun at work! :D
Hey guys. Enjoying the hell out of my Alpha Globe with the default atomizer, but I've been reading up on Ti coils, and have some questions/concerns. I've been reading on e-cig gorums that getting Ti glowing is a bad idea, because the glow temp is pretty much around the temp TiO2 starts to be produced. It was stated that TiO2 poses a health risk when inhaled by humans, but I don't know much about it definitively. Also it was mentioned that a method to mitigate the production of this gas was to use Temperature Controlled battery (one that registers the ohm rating and material type to lower its wattage over a long pull.)

Question one: Should Ti coils (such as the ones used it the Alpha Globe) only be used on temperature controlled batteries? If so, are there any battery/temperature setting recommendations?
No, these coils are safe to use on ~3.7V power supplies. The e-cig world is making (mostly grade 5 and worse) Ti coils in the ~0.3 ohm range, and these coils probably can't be fired on a battery-voltage device; they have about half the resistance to electron flow as our Ti coils so they will heat up much faster. Our coils take quite a long application of power at battery voltage to heat to such a high temperature that anything negative would occur; which leads us to your next questions. If you have a temperature control device you could most certainly try out temp controlling these coils, start low and work your way up with power. Even in TC, I don't suggest venturing past 15 watts, we see great heating and vapor production even with low wattage settings. You can set the 'temperature' to where you'd like, 400-550 may be a good range (entirely device-dependent though! Different boxes handle temp control differently, so always start low and work your way up.)

Question two: Are Ti coils safe to glow? If they are glowing with recommended use settings am I possibly endangering my health long term?
They're safe to glow red and nothing bad will happen at this point except the vapor from the oil you're trying to enjoy is going to taste bad because you over heated it and destroyed the terpenes instead of heated the wire to a nice temperature that would result in a flavorful vape. A dull glow on Ti wire is what results in a nice temperature for flavorful oil vaporization.

All you have to do is use shorter pulses or less power to fix this problem and vaporize your oils tastefully. But if you choose to increase the power and vape hot, its up to you. Say you keep holding down the button after all the oils are vaped away and the wire turns from red hot to white hot, this leads us to our third question

Question three (related to two): Are there any test results that can confirm the lack of hazardous TiO2 off gassing when the coils are getting hot enough to glow?
Yes you could consult any metallurgist or visit a website to learn about the properties of titanium. Grades 1-4 titanium are unalloyed and pure titanium does not off gas. Titanium oxide is a chemical reaction between titanium and oxygen that occurs on the surface of titanium, there is no gas or vapor released. Heat accelerates the formation of this oxide.
If one continues to apply power while red hot will lead the wire to become white hot, above 1,100°F at which point titanium dioxide will form on the outside surface of the wire. This is the same white coating you would see on a titanium nail that has been used a lot or over heated. It's not ideal and will weaken the wire just like over time it weakens a nail, so for the longest life of your Ti cartridges use reasonable power levels coupled with reasonable applications of power and you'll have no issues.
 

Dj Bass

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lol. Seems like Sam's customer is above par across the board. I can also testify that Sam and I have spent at lease 40 minutes (google talk logs confirm) discussing, products, safety, compatibility, and solutions. Never once have I felt pressured toward a sale, or rushed, or misinformed. If anyone is considering an Oilvaporizer.com product, and is worried about company support after you receive your goods, put those worries to rest. As far as I can tell these guys have got your back.
 

heady blunts

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thanks for directing me to this thread @SamuraiSam.

do you happen to know the temperature at which we can observe a Ti coil glowing red? i was previously under the impression that indicated i was nearing the dangerous 1,100*F temperature.

i read through the thread, so i apologize if i missed it, or if this is common knowledge, but why grade 2 titanium over grade 1? the ti wire i have is labeled 99.5% pure Ti---what's the last 0.5%?
 
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