Not sure if this has been discussed, Successfully made thc oil pills with avb

[Tehmongoose]

Yesterday I made thc pills out of avb. I used about 3/4 of a cup of avb to 3 large tablespoons of coconut oil. I used a double boiler pan, melted my coconut oil and put in the avb and about .25 grams of hash I had laying around. I kept it on the double boiler for about 3 hours stirring every 15-20 minutes. I poked a bunch of holes in an empty dixy cup box with a pen and it was the perfect size for my 00 gelatin capsules. One the oil on the stove was appropriate I strained it into a glass muffin cup and yielded more than expected! I used a children's medicine syringe (free at rite aid) and filled the capsules to .95 each and got 28 capsules and about 1.5 teaspoons of oil maybe a little more 2 capsules is a knock out strength and half a teaspoon of oil in a milkshake made me sleep for 6 hours. I vape about a gram a day to give you an idea of my vaping and smoke a dab at night.

I did let the pills and oil sit over night in the fridge to cool everything down and took everything out this morning.

 

[pressure]

Did you use a strainer to drain and seperate the oil from the AVB?

 

[zor]

Yeah, I've made plenty of coconut oil THC caps (cannacococaps? cococannacaps? I dunno), they're probably my favorite way of ingesting AVB (and fresh herb) since they're discrete, easy to dose (for the most part), and super portable. Good stuff, congrats on your efforts!

 

[pressure]

Yeah, I've made plenty of coconut oil THC caps (cannacococaps? cococannacaps? I dunno), they're probably my favorite way of ingesting AVB (and fresh herb) since they're discrete, easy to dose (for the most part), and super portable. Good stuff, congrats on your efforts!

Well my efforts were a failure

Ate 10 caps today and it did nothing at all

Who knows where i went wrong

 

[zor]

Looks like you used a TON of oil in this http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/im-cooking-coconut-oil-with-avb-does-this-look-right.20753/

I'm getting close to having enough ABV to make more but one of my past successful creations is lightly detailed here: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/easy-abv-coconut-oil-recipe-crockpot.4419/page-4#post-700253

I suspect you simply diluted your actives too much. You stated that you vaped below 210 which I assume you mean Celcius but in the future you may want to add in a decarb step in the oven, 20 minutes at 220 or so, just to be sure you get as close to a homogeneous mixture as possible.

To anyone who has trouble baking or cooking successfully, keep a log! Write down your process! As you rightly state, there are a lot of variables, how will you control for any of them if you can't identify each one? Things I lookout for that might help you:
Total weight of ABV used. I don't think volume (i.e. cups) is useful at all since mass is far more relevant.
Amount of coconut oil used
Soy lecithin used, if so how much
What was the temperature of the mixture when you simmered? Min? Max?
Did you stir at all?
What is the final volume of infused oil you obtained? Calculate the mass/volume ratio to get a sense of dosage per pill.

That last point is helpful if you've cooked/baked with abv before, as I did with making firecrackers. I found that 1.2g of abv was sufficient in a firecracker so I took that as a baseline for testing. In my post I had to take 10 caps as an equivalent, but take that with a grain of salt as with firecrackers I consume plant matter while with caps I press out the oil and discard the residual plant matter, there could be loss therein.

 

[pressure]

Looks like you used a TON of oil in this http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/im-cooking-coconut-oil-with-avb-does-this-look-right.20753/

I'm getting close to having enough ABV to make more but one of my past successful creations is lightly detailed here: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/easy-abv-coconut-oil-recipe-crockpot.4419/page-4#post-700253

I suspect you simply diluted your actives too much. You stated that you vaped below 210 which I assume you mean Celcius but in the future you may want to add in a decarb step in the oven, 20 minutes at 220 or so, just to be sure you get as close to a homogeneous mixture as possible.

To anyone who has trouble baking or cooking successfully, keep a log! Write down your process! As you rightly state, there are a lot of variables, how will you control for any of them if you can't identify each one? Things I lookout for that might help you:
Total weight of ABV used. I don't think volume (i.e. cups) is useful at all since mass is far more relevant.
Amount of coconut oil used
Soy lecithin used, if so how much
What was the temperature of the mixture when you simmered? Min? Max?
Did you stir at all?
What is the final volume of infused oil you obtained? Calculate the mass/volume ratio to get a sense of dosage per pill.

That last point is helpful if you've cooked/baked with abv before, as I did with making firecrackers. I found that 1.2g of abv was sufficient in a firecracker so I took that as a baseline for testing. In my post I had to take 10 caps as an equivalent, but take that with a grain of salt as with firecrackers I consume plant matter while with caps I press out the oil and discard the residual plant matter, there could be loss therein.

im not going to even try with AVB and coconut oil im now trying using a 1.5:7:1 ratio of weed oil and lechtin...

I also bought a candy termometer and am checking temps this time...found out my low on my crack pot was to low

 

[haarlemmer]

Since the AVB is decarbed, I think all this cooking is unnecessary. I just fill AA capsules with my AVB directly, pushing down to get as much as possible into a capsule. 3 caps are enough to get me feeling great. It's a heaping 1/2 teaspoon.

 

[pressure]

Since the AVB is decarbed, I think all this cooking is unnecessary. I just fill AA capsules with my AVB directly, pushing down to get as much as possible into a capsule. 3 caps are enough to get me feeling great. It's a heaping 1/2 teaspoon.

well the thing is doing the oil way is suppose to intensify the effects of the weed....

I just dropped 2 of a new batch I did. Its only been a half our...

I remember when I made brownies once they hit hard, something to talk about.

that was in 1990something

I still remember looking all over for a recipe, this was pre internet so it was a little difficult...

its to bad because we used regular weed and we were rocked....

I vape my weed to 400 F /210 C so its pretty much all gone

 

[HomeFree]

Find out how much ABV you need per dose, find out how much oil/butter is used in a recipe, and use an amount of ABV which is appropriate for your tolerance. I like to make mine so I can eat 1-4 pieces or mini cookies or tiny muffins or whatever it is. That way I have a wide berth. But you don't want them so weak you have to eat a ton of whatever food it is.

 

[Nesta]

Since the AVB is decarbed, I think all this cooking is unnecessary. I just fill AA capsules with my AVB directly, pushing down to get as much as possible into a capsule. 3 caps are enough to get me feeling great. It's a heaping 1/2 teaspoon.

@haarlemmer- Recently I've come across some very interesting articles about tightly packed capsules of ABV - that raise two points:

1) When the caps are packed real tight the effects can take longer to come on, 3 hours or more.

2) When they do hit- the effects can be much stronger than the same amount of ABV that is loosely packed (or scattered in some food).

So, a question for you: How long did it take for you to feel the effects of your tightly packed ABV caps?

My edibles usually hit me pretty quickly, in a half hour to 45 min or so. But recently I packed some caps tightly with decarbed fresh buds & just a little coco oil & didn't feel it for a full three hours. It wasn't stronger than usual but it left me wondering why it took so much longer, until I came across this:

http://beyondchronic.com/2012/08/capsule-warning-avb-experiment-wrong/ -which has a link to this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/saplings/c...ng_the_avb_experiment_that_went_wrong/c5s7e4r

The theory is that the tight caps get through the first stage of the digestive track intact, then get absorbed quickly & in a higher than normal concentration in the duodenum. Interesting. Anybody have any thoughts on this?

 

[TRON_iC]

How smelly are they? Would you feel comfortable flying with them?

 

[Tehmongoose]

Hey everyone!
Sorry for the late response, I just moved out of state and it's been awhile since I could post. I recommend using actual pure MCT oil and lecithin. It makes them have an effect in 45 min and if your not careful you will get double vision! Freeze them for 8-24 hours And It will really intensify the effect! And decarb even the vape for 240 for 40 min. It helps.