Night Sweats?

[PoisonousHydra]

This afternoon I saw a Doctor of Internal Medicine for the aforementioned issue: excessive nighttime perspiration. It does not seem to matter what temperature I sleep in, I never use a comforter, only a sheet, and even then only about half of the time, and it is the beginning of winter up here in Canada which means that I am sleeping in a basement that is roughly 22 degrees Celsius (71.5 Fahrenheit) most of the time, yet about once a week I wake up completely drenched in sweat.

The Doctor I saw today told me that there is a direct correlation between daily cannabis use and excessive nighttime perspiration, and his senior colleague corroborated this theory. He sent me for a whole range of lab tests for which I was forced to give some ten odd vials of blood, but failing any abnormal results I was told to assume that the prescription I have for medicinal marihuana is the primary culprit.

Ultimately, I am curious if anyone has any experience with this. I have found some empirical evidence online to suggest that there is some association between cannabis use and "night sweats" and I know from my own personal experience that cessation of cannabis definitely contributes to excessive nighttime perspiration. I would be interested to know if anyone else has any personal experience, empirical evidence, or scientific knowledge to contribute to this topic.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
The Lernaean Hydra.

 

[CarolKing]

Men can go through something similar to women it's called andropause. When men get older they can get low in testosterone levels and that can cause night sweats similar to women. You didn't mention your age?

Also caffeine, spicy food and smoking tobacco or cannabis. Did you tell your doc that you vape? Also going through cannabis withdrawals can cause excessive sweating.

I've noticed the last 6 months or so my husband sweats a lot at night. He doesn't use cannabis at all because he has to take random drug tests.

 

[PoisonousHydra]

Caffeine is not a daily thing for me, but something I enjoy in moderation. I love spicy foods but surprisingly have not been indulging in them regularly for a while. I am a 29 year old male, and I am taking levothyroxine for my thyroid issues, but am tested for those hormones on a regular basis, and was also tested for testosterone levels in January, amongst most other hormones, and all of my levels were considered "normal". I did tell my Doctor as well as the Internal Medicine Doctor I saw yesterday that I almost exclusively use a vapourizer. I did mention that I am aware of the effects that cannabis cessation can have in this regard. and now that you mention it my consumption has actually dropped pretty significantly in the past three months, which could definitely be contributing to the increase in frequency that I have noted in the past three months or so.

 

[lazylathe]

@biohacker Will have some great info to add to this thread!!!

 

[biohacker]

Umm, no I won't! LOL OP, feel free to PM me regarding this though.. this forum is not the place for it IMHO. There is another forum that i'll tell you about when you PM.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/ammonia-during-vaporizing.15264/

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/having-a-rough-time-taking-a-break.15689/

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/night-sweats-insomnia.8409/

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/l...es-chemicals-in-street-weed.8175/#post-326981

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/long-term-vaping.16297/#post-691302

These threads may or may not help you, but do some homework on google and you will quickly see that you are not alone. There is also www.cannabisrehab.org which has helped me greatly, but obviously has to do more with withdrawal. Eventually you may have the night sweats nightly no matter how much you vape. I'm now 5 weeks without a single drop of THC, and I can pass a piss test, but am still sweating nightly, but it has much improved, and typically takes me a few more weeks to stop.

Hope this helps, vaping weed (especially plants that aren't grown in the natural soil with SUNlight) isn't as benign as many people make it out to be. The poison is in the dose, and i'd be more than happy to discuss this via PM as I am with other members from all over the world. Cheers.

EDIT: PS. 22c is WAY too warm to be sleeping in....try 16-18c. Not that I think it will make a difference, but cooler is better when it comes to sleep quality. Unless you're metabolically crippled like some people I know.

 

[puddleglum]

I get the night sweats sometimes, sure.

Our bodies are constantly eliminating toxins, out of every orifice, and one of the ways we do this is through sweat.

Generally I've found my night sweats are worse when I am consuming something my body has flagged as "toxic." To the extend that cannabis has some mild toxins, it sounds totally plausible to me that smoking/vaping might increase persperation. In my case, the worst culprit seems to wheat. I have some GI and autoimmune problems, and when I consume wheat products, I often wake up in the middle of the night, sheets completely soaked through, and with a strong yeast/dough smell.

PoisonousHydra, you might want to take an inventory of everything you are putting into your body (food, drink, medicine, mmj, vitamins, supplements, etc.) and then self-experiment to see which one your body is detoxing so aggressively.

Another thought is that you could do some exercise before bedtime, work up a good sweat, get it all out of your system before you go to bed. Also make sure you are drinking enough water, having good BM's, etc.

 

[biohacker]

I'll bet all of my vapes and stash that his doctor and senior colleague are correct. However you are also taking a thyroid drug, so even though your blood labs show normal hormonal levels, it could be factor. Only one way to find out forsure. I'm looking forward to a dry night of sleep and won't touch weed again until I do. And then I need to restructure my relationship with the plant and severely moderate my usage. I can't even begin to tell you how many positive changes i've experienced both physically and mentally. Good luck.

 

[Magic9]

Ultimately, I am curious if anyone has any experience with this. I have found some empirical evidence online to suggest that there is some association between cannabis use and "night sweats" and I know from my own personal experience that cessation of cannabis definitely contributes to excessive nighttime perspiration. I would be interested to know if anyone else has any personal experience, empirical evidence, or scientific knowledge to contribute to this topic.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
The Lernaean Hydra.

I get night sweats sometimes. It started in my teens (pre-cannabis). I'm always a hot sleeper, but the sweats happen sporadically for me no matter my usage at the time. I've found as long as I don't have a shirt on, it's really minimal (5 or so times a year).

and I am taking levothyroxine for my thyroid issues, but am tested for those hormones on a regular basis, and was also tested for testosterone levels in January, amongst most other hormones, and all of my levels were considered "normal".

Any endocrine disease, such as thydoid disorders, may cause sweating, as well as the medications used to treat it.

Umm, no I won't! LOL OP, feel free to PM me regarding this though.. this forum is not the place for it IMHO. There is another forum that i'll tell you about when you PM.

There is also www.cannabisrehab.org which has helped me greatly

This forum is the perfect place for it IMHO. Where else are you going to find a wider, deeper knowledge base of vaping cannabis?

I'm not sure if the forum you were going to tell him about was the same one from the website you linked (http://www.cannabisrehab.org/forums/forum.php), but if so, I have to add that the forum/website is owned/operated by National Treatment Network.

Who is the National Treatment Network? A "direct marketing agency".

http://www.cannabisrehab.org/NTN/Drug-Rehab.html
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/8/prweb9776813.htm

The National Treatment Network is under the MedicQuire umbrella along with other "brands" like the Spinal Surgery Network.

"Medicquire is a high growth sales and marketing organization where true experts master the tools and techniques for building direct to consumer medical brands, co-brands and unique offers."

http://www.prweb.com/releases/prweb2011/7/prweb8650989.htm
http://www.medicquire.com/

"MedicQuire Launches National Treatment Network and Facilitates Addiction Treatment Facility Business"

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/12/prweb9046349.htm


MedicQuire is owned by Sunland Holdings LLC.



I'd be very wary of any direct marketing websites for something as serious as drug addiction.

 

[biohacker]

This forum is a perfect place to justify any sort of use and abuse of vaping weed. It is obviously very biased. Don't worry about the marketing or sponsors. I admit it's kind of annoying, but read about REAL people's experiences in the forums, but again - it's all related to withdrawals and quitting in which night sweats are basically the top symptoms next to insomnia. You don't even need that forum to research that, just google "marijuana night sweats". I just wanted to help, based on what has helped me, because i'm living it, and based on 10 years of long term chronic vaping. Anyways, i'm obviously wrong, as is his doctor and colleague, and realize this isn't the right forum for me.

If you ignore the ads, do you think all of these posts are made up and fake? If not, there is definitely something to learn from others. There are nearly 100 pages of testimonials and support. I know it's basically the complete opposite of this forum.

http://www.cannabisrehab.org/forums...ow-long-do-marijuana-withdrawal-symptoms-last

Good luck my canuck friend. I'm just trying to help, I should have not said anything. Peace out!

 

[Magic9]

This forum is a perfect place to justify any sort of use and abuse of vaping weed. It is obviously very biased.

This is FuckCombustion.com. Specifically geared to those of us that vape cannabis. Perfect place for like minded individuals to share experiences and ask questions like the OP.

Don't worry about the marketing or sponsors. I admit it's kind of annoying, but read about REAL people's experiences in the forums, but again - it's all related to withdrawals and quitting in which night sweats are basically the top symptoms next to insomnia. You don't even need that forum to research that, just google "marijuana night sweats". I just wanted to help, based on what has helped me, because i'm living it, and based on 10 years of long term chronic vaping.

I'm not worried so much about marketing/sponsors so much as the intentions behind the "campaign". Googling is not as good as asking fellow FCers. I'm glad that forum has helped you.

I'm now 5 weeks without a single drop of THC, and I can pass a piss test, but am still sweating nightly, but it has much improved, and typically takes me a few more weeks to stop.

Maybe it's not the cannabis that is not in your system any longer?

I'll bet all of my vapes and stash that his doctor and senior colleague are correct. However you are also taking a thyroid drug, so even though your blood labs show normal hormonal levels, it could be factor.

Anyways, i'm obviously wrong, as is his doctor and colleague, and realize this isn't the right forum for me.

So you'll ship out right away then?

His doctor and colleague had a theory and OP was told to assume. Unless the doctor and his colleague have access to secret info, they don't know either. Could be cannabis. Could be the thyroid. Could be the thyroid meds. He could be fighting a low level infection.
Just google night sweats and it could be a whole shit load of things.

As far as if this is the right forum for you, I don't know. I like having you around, but I don't think addicts should submerse them selves in the cannabis culture this place promotes. Alcoholics shouldn't window shop at the liquor store and all. I'd like if you stuck around, but don't expect others to change because you found the light.

If you ignore the ads, do you think all of these posts are made up and fake? If not, there is definitely something to learn from others. There are nearly 100 pages of testimonials and support. I know it's basically the complete opposite of this forum.

I didn't pay any attention to the ads. Just the owners. I'm not that much of an asshole to dig through and try to spot the fakes, since I'm sure there are real people there. This forum is the opposite of that forum in many ways thankfully (and there are way more than 100 pages of support and testimonials). All hail VTAC!

/rant

 

[biohacker]

It has nothing to do with finding the light, and just because I was an addict, doesn't mean I AM an addict. I appreciate your post and your points, and it's not like i'm quitting FC, just the medical section, as it appears that it is an extremely one sided view point in general here. People like posts that agree with their beliefs, usage patterns, addictions, justifications, whatever, but i'm definitely noticing a common motif here. I honestly didn't pay any attention to those ads, or whoever/whatever is behind them, only geniune posts, but geniune people, who are going through real ordeals. People here will never understand, unless they STOP, and since that probably isn't going to happen, it's irrelevant in the end. Obiously many people don't have any issues with withdrawing, if they do stop, or night sweats or any other negative impacts of vaping, and that's great, kudos to them. But one day they may end up in this thread, or the CHS thread, and have an "aha" moment.

Furthermore, just because I pass a minimum standard on a piss test, doesn't mean it's not in my body anymore, actually it's far from due to the threshold of metabolites on the test. You're right the night sweats could be alot of things, as it could be for me too, but only time will tell that, and i'm quite confident since it's getting a million times better - it's the weed (excessive vaping).

I'm glad you like my contributions, you can find me in the vaporizer sections, namely my favourite ones - Solo, Nano, Herbie, and Air, and a few others where I find like minded people, like the athlete vaporist, thread. I think i'll save my medical posts in a forum where I don't think vaping is the panacea for everything, without any negative effects. Life is too short to argue all the time, and it's definitely not contributing to the OP's questions. However those links I first gave are a great start, and I still stand by the rehab forum being an excellent resource for not only the OP, but also ANYONE that is experiencing ANY negative effects from vaping. I'm personally looking deeper into the correlation between haemoglobin, white/red blood cell counts, platets, and inflammatory markers. Inhaling vapour consistently, on a long term basis, and especially at higher temps, definitely leaves it's mark on blood oxygen and the ability to use it, nevermind the effects on the liver and other vital organs that filter exogenous cannibanoids. Thanks for your post and feedback.

 

[grokit]

The addiction paradigm, national drug-of-choice denial edition:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...s-us-180953433/?utm_source=twitter.com&no-ist

 

[Magic9]

I appreciate your post and your points, and it's not like i'm quitting FC, just the medical section, as it appears that it is an extremely one sided view point in general here.

It is a vaporizer forum. Many of us have had quite positive experiences.

I honestly didn't pay any attention to those ads, or whoever/whatever is behind them, only geniune posts, but geniune people, who are going through real ordeals. People here will never understand, unless they STOP, and since that probably isn't going to happen, it's irrelevant in the end.

My issue isn't with the ads. Many forums allow ad space to be bought. My issue lies with that forum being started, maintained, owned, operated, etc., by a "direct marketing agency" (National Treatment Network/MedicQuire) that is looking to profit from real people going through real ordeals. You say it's good, ok. I just felt the need to point out there is a "direct marketing agency" looking to "garnering international attention and generating substantial business growth by serving this market segment." (their words). That forum didn't exist until this marketing firm made it.

And many of us have stopped at one time or another and realized we're better off with it.

Furthermore, just because I pass a minimum standard on a piss test, doesn't mean it's not in my body anymore, actually it's far from due to the threshold of metabolites on the test.

EMIT tests generally have a 50 ng/ml cutoff. So pretty close to being completely out if not already.

Either way, glad you're staying.


Where are the rest of the sweaters? I know we're not the only ones!

 

[CarolKing]

He was just wondering about his night sweats who knows why he's having them? None of us have our degrees in medicine. We're just giving our opinion. There are plenty folks that have night sweats that don't even part take in cannabis. The OP's night sweats may quite possibly have nothing to do with cannabis?

He's wondering if others have had night sweats too?

 

[PoisonousHydra]

I appreciate the quick responses and all of the input. I have read through the links shared here and have also used many a search engine, but what I was looking for was something a little more than empirical evidence from "fellow stoners" saying that they also sweat at night.

I am very aware of the fact that some of the other medications I am taking can also cause excessive perspiration, as well as about a thousand other things. This is one of the reasons why I felt is was perhaps a bit presumptuous of these doctors to zero in on my cannabis use almost immediately.

I have heard that 22 degrees may be on the warm side for some, but I have always preferred things on the warmer side, especially when sleeping, and on the advice of my doctor spent the last three months taking my temperature at regular intervals throughout the night upon awakening, and regardless of whether I was shivering, or sweating buckets at the time I retained a consistently acceptable body temperature throughout the night. This has lead me, and my doctors to believe that this is truly something internal, as opposed to something caused by my sleeping arrangements.

@biohacker - Please do not feel any remorse for posting what you did. I disagree that this is not the place for it, but like with anything, I have taken a lot of the information you have posted with a grain of salt, so to speak. This is why I am truly curious if there is any actual medical evidence to support this hypothesis, because if there is not then is seems fairly odd that medical professionals would be assuming this is my problem without any actual scientific basis, aside from the word of a bunch of cannabis users on the internet. I am not doubting, or discrediting your experience, or that of anyone else, but just find it odd that this has not actually been properly researched, but is being accepted as fact by the doctors I am dealing with.

 

[biohacker]

I'll reply to your post only, and take this advice like my previous (with a grain of salt)....STOP vaping, or at least taper down and see what happens. It has worked for me, and countless others. When I vaped as much as I did in the past, I would sweat heavily in general from physical activity, and i've noticed a great change here. It's nothing scientific, but I do personally know many others that the same thing happens to. We all have another thing in common, which is the most common withdrawal effect - excessive night sweats. My theory is that the body goes into withdrawal in the night, or have something to do with the endocrine system, as marjuana can and does effect your hormonal system. Just my OPINION, and 2 cents, so take it for what you will. Nobody knows your body like you do, and you will probably have to biohack this yourself by being mindful and experimenting by a process of elimination. Since you are on another drug, it obviously won't be easy, but could greatly improve your health in the long term. Take action before it turns into something more serious, I know too well how much fun night sweats can be.

 

[4tokin]

Only when I realise I am down to the last couple of ounces.

 

[elvenflow]

I have parsonage turner syndrome and cannabis has significantly reduced my abnormal sweating. Have you had a Quantitative Sudomotor Axon Reflex (Qsart) test yet?

Cannabis has significantly improved my nighttime comfort. I used to have to get up and change shirts three or four times a night.

I always stop cannabis two weeks before my testing and have yet to experience anything I can identify as "withdrawl", other than my feet start hurting again. It definitely reduces neuropathic sweating, sweating from other causes I have no experience with.

 

[Enchantre]

I sweat like a pig all night for 8 years before I started cannabis. Now that I have cannabis, I still have night sweats, but I don't care as much now.

 

[elvenflow]

Cannabis helps the night sweats in this disease as well: http://www.medicinenet.com/thymoma/article.htm
due to anticholinesterase-like effects
http://www.myasthenia.org.au/html/treatments.htm#at
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00439369

 

[VaporsVaporizer]

I don't really sweat makes anything above 70 degrees unbearable.

 

[mikencolo]

This afternoon I saw a Doctor of Internal Medicine for the aforementioned issue: excessive nighttime perspiration. It does not seem to matter what temperature I sleep in, I never use a comforter, only a sheet, and even then only about half of the time, and it is the beginning of winter up here in Canada which means that I am sleeping in a basement that is roughly 22 degrees Celsius (71.5 Fahrenheit) most of the time, yet about once a week I wake up completely drenched in sweat.

The Doctor I saw today told me that there is a direct correlation between daily cannabis use and excessive nighttime perspiration, and his senior colleague corroborated this theory. He sent me for a whole range of lab tests for which I was forced to give some ten odd vials of blood, but failing any abnormal results I was told to assume that the prescription I have for medicinal marihuana is the primary culprit.

Ultimately, I am curious if anyone has any experience with this. I have found some empirical evidence online to suggest that there is some association between cannabis use and "night sweats" and I know from my own personal experience that cessation of cannabis definitely contributes to excessive nighttime perspiration. I would be interested to know if anyone else has any personal experience, empirical evidence, or scientific knowledge to contribute to this topic.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
The Lernaean Hydra.

i have a different experience though. One of the nasty side effects of one of my prescribed meds results in night sweats. it will wake me from a sound sleep and my only solution is to vape & it always works for me. i have the unit, vaporizer next to my bedside so when i wake i can medicate and within a few minutes i no longer feel miserable and am able to go back to sleep. that is why i stick to indie's or predominantly indie hybrids.

that said your doctor may be nice and well informed on many topics but he doesn't know the difference between correlation and causality let alone citing a study on marijuana and night sweats. his theory or rather hypothesis, and i don't mean to offend but sounds like a man with a big ego and lots of opinions. next time you see him do this in a polite but direct way, ask him which medical journal published the study on night sweats the BMJ, JAMA or the AMJ? if you get a response please do reply back. being right matters far less to me than being factually correct and i do make my fair share of mistakes.

i can state this however there have been NO studies stateside, completed on what you described. in Israel and or the UK i cannot say with certainty as they do have several ongoing research programs.

sadly we as patients are often better informed as to our conditions than some of the doctors treating us.

best of luck to you though no matter!

 

[Radio]

I havent vaped in about a week now and the first 2 nights were terrible. I am farmiliar with waking up a bit sweaty if it's a warm night, but for these two nights of detoxing I woke up dripping in sweat from head to toe.. Completely wet. It was disgusting but for some reason also comforting and nice because I felt significantly more cleansed. I think when I return to vaping I will have detox periods like this often because I notice personally that I build tolerance considerably fast and accumulate a bit of gunk from it all (which i can sorta physically feel in my day to day life.)

I am the type of person that is very aware of what physiological effects food and drins have on me to the point where I can distinguish the content of foods from how I feel afterwards, and am very specific with the types of sweets, sugars, coffees and breads I have the same way I can appreciate which strain I am high on.

Went off on a bit of a tangent there, sorry...
From sweating at night to getting high and eating candy.. I truly am a brilliant mind.

 

[mikencolo]

I havent vaped in about a week now and the first 2 nights were terrible. I am farmiliar with waking up a bit sweaty if it's a warm night, but for these two nights of detoxing I woke up dripping in sweat from head to toe.. Completely wet. It was disgusting but for some reason also comforting and nice because I felt significantly more cleansed. I think when I return to vaping I will have detox periods like this often because I notice personally that I build tolerance considerably fast and accumulate a bit of gunk from it all (which i can sorta physically feel in my day to day life.)

I am the type of person that is very aware of what physiological effects food and drins have on me to the point where I can distinguish the content of foods from how I feel afterwards, and am very specific with the types of sweets, sugars, coffees and breads I have the same way I can appreciate which strain I am high on.

Went off on a bit of a tangent there, sorry...
From sweating at night to getting high and eating candy.. I truly am a brilliant mind.

very good info to know. i had assumed my night sweats were related to my condition as it is one of the symptom but based on what you have said here it might also be due to my vaping. i think i am going to try to go without tonight and see what happens. i haven't had any for more than a week so this could be telling. i'll post again after. thanks deja vu.

 

[grokit]

I get night sweats when I run low on flower and resort to wand hash etc. I'm guessing that if I just stuck to flushed flowers and forgo the scrapings and remnants I would have significantly less to cleanse out.

Otoh, maybe using the hash as a trigger for night sweats/cleansing helps me flush out more persistent, unrelated toxins from everyday life like plastics, arsenic, heavy metals and other crap who knows.