Finessseee
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Bowlee or Minivap? I want one of these bad bois. They’re unique and the seemingly best of the best while also being underrated at the same time.. Thoughts / suggestions between the two?
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While both are solid performers from the reads , being best of the best requires more than good performance .
For example ,some people (material safety snobs
) are not comfortable with the PTFE(Teflon)and Silicone bowls(flexicones) in the Minivap or the Bowle issues with flaking paint inside the moutpiece and not so great batterylife.Also it is worth mentioning that there is hardly a best vaporizer out there,almost all compromise on smth, some more than others. It is down to a personal preference on what you are ready to compromise.
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Michel
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Basically, owning both of them, I would narrow it down to battery life vs. heat up time…
Finessseee
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While both are solid performers from the reads , being best of the best requires more than good performance .
For example ,some people (material safety snobs
Can you expand on this more? I thought the Minivap was 100% safe medically tested device. What’s wrong with the PTFE and flexicones?While both are solid performers from the reads , being best of the best requires more than good performance .
For example ,some people (material safety snobs
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So the vapor that minivap produces is as cool as Tafee's? I am also interested in owning both.
Finessseee
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Even with the Teflon core? I read that the Teflon is less harsh than the glass core
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As per forum rules, material safety is not to be discussed in model specific thread.
Here you can read about the use of PTFE in vaporizers
The use of PTFE
This is spill over from the Boundless Tera thread. I don't wish to start anything, but to learn and understand. How safe is PTFE when used it a vaporizer when used like below: From Eric@Boundless: After discussing with our manufacturer and expressing the concerns of the original heater, it was...
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Silicone Offgassing - Is it a Health Concern?
I just wanna know if the silicone tubing i'm using is going to hurt me i just bumped my 2010 silicone safety thread in the Vaporization Discussion section about spallation - not temperature driven.
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MinnBobber
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The MiniVAP produces higher quality vapor but it is not as cool as the Tafee Bowle .
So, you may want to run the MiniVAP through a
glass J-hook or a Hydro tube etc.
dudeguy
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Old thread but now with the Bowle 2.0 and the updated Quartz Core MiniVap the question got relevant again. I gather the taste in both devices is best among the best while the Bowle has smoother Vapor and instant hits. MiniVap has the hybrid core which will probably give a better body high and extraction. Portability is no concern as it will be for home use only. Is the MiniVap still offering slightly better Vapor quality and do both qualify as heavy hitter?
justcametomind
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The minivap was my first expensive vape and imho the best taste MV was teflon core. MV hits (TC) were very gentle, you may have thought to have barely inhaled any vapor but then the effect creeped up on you.
But it wasn't for the cloud chaser at all. It barely produced vapor on exhale and they came up with glass core and more, but imho, looking back, the best one was the first one. No need for clouds if stone and flavor were so great.
If the Mighty is an heavy hitter, I would say that also the MV is one.
But probably they both lack the airflow you would get from what you would call a heavy hitter nowadays (at least the airflow of a Venty?).
Taffee Bowle, I bought only the first one but I think I'll pass on the second. 1st one didn't survive one single drop from my kitchen table, the heater misalligned after the drop and produced hotspots and burns. The 2.0 is bigger but they increased only the battery size, AFAIK it's built with the heater in that same position with no portion of the increased footprint dedicated to shock absorption: ime, that heater is prone to get misalligned if dropped or even during cleaning. The heater of TB1.0 is protected only by a single metal screen and you could misallign it also with a q-tip while cleaning imho. MV (and battery) are great at shock absorption and still work after 10 years.
But it wasn't for the cloud chaser at all. It barely produced vapor on exhale and they came up with glass core and more, but imho, looking back, the best one was the first one. No need for clouds if stone and flavor were so great.
If the Mighty is an heavy hitter, I would say that also the MV is one.
But probably they both lack the airflow you would get from what you would call a heavy hitter nowadays (at least the airflow of a Venty?).
Taffee Bowle, I bought only the first one but I think I'll pass on the second. 1st one didn't survive one single drop from my kitchen table, the heater misalligned after the drop and produced hotspots and burns. The 2.0 is bigger but they increased only the battery size, AFAIK it's built with the heater in that same position with no portion of the increased footprint dedicated to shock absorption: ime, that heater is prone to get misalligned if dropped or even during cleaning. The heater of TB1.0 is protected only by a single metal screen and you could misallign it also with a q-tip while cleaning imho. MV (and battery) are great at shock absorption and still work after 10 years.
justcametomind
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It’s not needed to clean under that screen on normal conditions. But if something bad happens and I need to clean there, I should be able to clean without the risk of misaligning the heater.
Something imho to take notice if owning a Taffee Bowle is also that it shouldn’t be loaded with a capsule on the puck/stem, put inside a bag, and took for a walk (do it with no capsule). If your weed is just over 20% thc like mine and full of kief, you may end up with that kief all over the inside of the stem/puck. I would have the desire to see what’s up under that heater screen without having to toss it in the trash right after doing so. Imagine having an hiccup like that with a bowl loaded with a weed/concentrates sandwich, or just forgetting a supposedly spent capsule that still contains some running concentrates and going for a walk with TB on the bag. Nice flavor but t’s not a portable if you can’t even load it and take it out, is it?
I recognize I’m the only one to point out this stuff (for now).
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budweis
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Well, I get what you are saying and I believe if there was another solution while keeping the Bowle as good as it is they would’ve done it. The manual literally says to avoid situation where the material comes in contact with the top of the oven. I mean, it’s clear that transporting Bowle with loaded pot inside is in contradiction to this instruction.
My point being if you are using it as intended there is no need to be afraid. I had my doubts as well after reading here about the sensitive sensor area but in the end I am glad it didn’t scare me of.
My point being if you are using it as intended there is no need to be afraid. I had my doubts as well after reading here about the sensitive sensor area but in the end I am glad it didn’t scare me of.
justcametomind
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I’m not sure that on the 1.0 manual it was stated that you should not carry it loaded, I’m glad it is now common knowledge.
I didn’t mess at all with that screen on the heater, but custom inspectors did, and my new unit was rendered electronic waste from the get go. So I returned a misaligned heater unit and got in return a different unit with a misaligned heater as well.
There were already little modifications on the 1.0 unit after the launch IIRC, and new units were shipped with some improvements: after sending in my RMA unit I inquired on what I was going to get and I had the sad impression that at Taffee they basically had no clue on what they were getting by their factory in China. IMHO they can’t ask the same premium price SB asks if they produce in China. Everyone else says TB it’s the bee’s knees but I’d say avoid it if you have ham hands like me, especially when I’m medicated.