Yeah that's what I'm used to with the torch style, so in trying to learn my Sai+ I am having better success using it that way in wattage... But also like telling me test it so often, which is not very, I do want to do more in general because of all these tools it's true lol Though it is a different experience with Sai quartz buckets being a cold start experience... So especially in trying temp control the first time, I guess I need to turn it up higher, I don't know the idea of taking many puffs off concentrate doesn't feel right, too harsh to do and otherwise feel like I'm wasting if not back to back hits, at least with high quality concentrate like this the taste is good I suppose? Really just not used to having such high quality e-rig style device I think, and I guess I'm not getting enough time with it because I have this torch banger recycler setup now, but need to moderate!