need advice from mighty and volc hybrid users.

[redrum891]

Ok, I'm new to vaping (just over a month) and have a mighty + and a volcano hybrid.

I'm curious as to why my mighty at 410F seems to burn my herb better than the hybrid at 446F? They both produce good milky bowls but the mighty seems to be a little bit more.

I was using my volcano with a whip to a bubbler and casually hitting it without clearing for a relaxing session, temp stepping. Then I seen a youtube video of jerry doing test at max temps so I decided to keep my temps and I feel like I like it more...

My thing is, when casually hitting it with a whip, it seems great but with the mighty, I'm just using mk globe with the mouth piece to do big rips which seem to hit real nice.

I can definitely take huge hits when clearing the bubbler and feel fine but the session goes within 2 minutes, I am wondering if I should stick to using a whip or go with bong ripping it?

Im debating on getting a dynavap B, I got the vaporizers for my father who got sick and needed something simple and easy like a volcano/mighty. I think if I knew what I know now, I would of got a flowerpot and a mighty+ (I hear the tinymight is strong too) but hoping the dynavap can produce good results or just stick to using the mighty+ ? Is there any real reasons to get a volcano hybrid(I like using the whip) over a mighty? I would think that the volcano will last a very long time and puts out basically the same results as a mighty and can do balloons?...

I don't want to buy another expensive device, I want to wait out the market to see the next big thing(the tinymighty2 came out 2 weeks after I got my mighty :/ ) which might be a while or grab a flowerpot eventually.

also, any suggestion on which glass you like to use? bigger glass means bigger hits, but will also kill my session faster and feeling like I am going through bud a lot faster...compared to temp stepping or not clearing the bowl (kind of how the obsidian glass can use a whip) for a casual session. Or would someone not even go through the trouble of using a bubbler if they aren't clearing it? I have the obsidian but feel like it is meant for bags and hate that tickle feeling when not using water, so I used it with the whip for a while, now I just go with a bubbler.

Oh well sucks living in a shitty state that is 10 years behind everyone else. I can't even test much stuff without hurting my wallet.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Replying to you again here, I think it would make more sense to post in the actual Mighty thread, and Volcano thread, if you want to talk to people who use those?? That's where they're hanging out...

And I didn't realize you only have the regular volcano, no wonder, that's much different from the mighty, Mighty is slow session conduction with some hybrid convection, so you must like the way that works, regardless of temp settings... The volcano is more pure convection, air pump into bag, much larger bowl, I bet if you load more you can get more out of it, closer results to what you are looking for, but it still won't feel the same because of the different extraction style.

VapCap is on demand, but more conduction, some hybrid action, tiny tiny bowl though, I find it extremely tedious, hate using a torch too...

Tinymight is fantastic pure convection on demand, twice the power of the mighty, glass stems for your vapor path and chamber easy cleaning, easy connection to dry glass pieces and water pieces, my all around favorite vape, extremely versatile with full temp range dial...

It's not the glass that's giving you the bigger hit, you are taking a bigger hit, you are inhaling more killing it faster, glass stem vape is good for this because you can kill a bowl and load another one easily or have one ready to go as opposed to when your chamber is fixed in the vape... Log vapes are the classic example of this, something like the wood scents even works with vapcaps (and so can the heat island)

FlowerPot is not the only option for this style of heavy hitting injector vape either, there are really a lot of options, at a variety of prices, with varying details, but many very similar function and performance.

I strongly suggest just skimming around here in the different threads to see what other people are asking and suggesting... Good luck

 

[redrum891]

Replying to you again here, I think it would make more sense to post in the actual Mighty thread, and Volcano thread, if you want to talk to people who use those?? That's where they're hanging out...

And I didn't realize you only have the regular volcano, no wonder, that's much different from the mighty, Mighty is slow session conduction with some hybrid convection, so you must like the way that works, regardless of temp settings... The volcano is more pure convection, air pump into bag, much larger bowl, I bet if you load more you can get more out of it, closer results to what you are looking for, but it still won't feel the same because of the different extraction style.

VapCap is on demand, but more conduction, some hybrid action, tiny tiny bowl though, I find it extremely tedious, hate using a torch too...

Tinymight is fantastic pure convection on demand, twice the power of the mighty, glass stems for your vapor path and chamber easy cleaning, easy connection to dry glass pieces and water pieces, my all around favorite vape, extremely versatile with full temp range dial...

It's not the glass that's giving you the bigger hit, you are taking a bigger hit, you are inhaling more killing it faster, glass stem vape is good for this because you can kill a bowl and load another one easily or have one ready to go as opposed to when your chamber is fixed in the vape... Log vapes are the classic example of this, something like the wood scents even works with vapcaps (and so can the heat island)

FlowerPot is not the only option for this style of heavy hitting injector vape either, there are really a lot of options, at a variety of prices, with varying details, but many very similar function and performance.

I strongly suggest just skimming around here in the different threads to see what other people are asking and suggesting... Good luck

ahh sorry, I meant to say I have the volcano hybrid.

so I assume that most people are using water pieces unless they are somewhere where they can't have access to them?

I just legit put up my hybrid in my closet because I don't live in a friendly state and hate the paranoia of shit just laying out. I feel like the volcano would be a better choice than a mighty if you didn't travel out much, since it will probably last a decade and for medical patients, but it is hard to compare these different vapes indeed...

I was going to buy a wpa that makes my mighty sit upside down on a water pipe, will this cause any damage over time to it? I've heard the aftermarket piece that turns to lock in can break the device? If so I don't mind a short tube to the mouth piece but then I will have to clean the cooling chamber a lot....

I know the volcano hybrid is a beast and I haven't had a ton of testing, it feels exactly like the mighty even though it says it goes to 446F but the mighty feels like it pushes out vapor faster, since it burns it up quicker(flower is darker from a mighty compared to my volcano?...)

I did like the idea of a dynavap, 1-2 good hard hits to conserve flower but I hear people love them or they can't get it to work how they want. I guess since I am more of a bong user than a joint smoker, a flowerpot would have been my best choice.

I just started vaping about a little over a month ago, in a non friendly state due to my father getting sick and I was surprised how good vaping is too, I'm trying to find me a little something that hits pretty hard, I guess a dynavap is a cheap route or a flowerpot for me but I will wait out the market for new things probably.

 

[Shit Snacks]

so I assume that most people are using water pieces unless they are somewhere where they can't have access to them?

No, not at all, in fact many people don't like to use water, many people feel like they need it, and many like me enjoy the variety especially with many different vapes and bowls and such...

I was going to buy a wpa that makes my mighty sit upside down on a water pipe, will this cause any damage over time to it? I've heard the aftermarket piece that turns to lock in can break the device? If so I don't mind a short tube to the mouth piece but then I will have to clean the cooling chamber a lot....

Yeah it really depends, I don't like the idea of using it upside down if you're not being able to clear it since it is session style vapor could be flowing back up into the heating, but the mighty doesn't taste that great to me anyway, I don't know I sold it after having it for a little bit, I had one of the WPA and it worked okay but it was kind of annoying... Yeah so some of the WPA I have heard can crack the housing, but there are a lot of different options, so I'm not sure what's the best, better to check the mighty thread as I said for stuff like that... I know you can also connect to WPA to the top part keeping the cooling unit if you want, but I hate that plastic cooling unit lol

I did like the idea of a dynavap, 1-2 good hard hits to conserve flower but I hear people love them or they can't get it to work how they want. I guess since I am more of a bong user than a joint smoker, a flowerpot would have been my best choice.

Also DV is old tech now, I would highly recommend instead looking at the Danivape or Anvil actually if you specifically want to do heavy rips through a bong... Yeah flower pot too, very different, but again there are a lot of similar vapes to the flower pot, that could be cheaper or more accessible or desirable for you so I'd suggest doing more research?

I just started vaping about a little over a month ago, in a non friendly state due to my father getting sick and I was surprised how good vaping is too, I'm trying to find me a little something that hits pretty hard, I guess a dynavap is a cheap route or a flowerpot for me but I will wait out the market for new things probably.

Yeah so it makes sense you started with Mighty and volcano, the marketing behind those and the mainstream level, but they are far from the best as you will see from most of the connoisseurs here... There are a ton of options though, typical to start off and then realize how great it can be and go down the rabbit hole of VAS -vaporizer acquisition syndrome! Anyway I would not bother with the vap cap I say again lol

 

[onesixty2]

Volcano Hybrid is definitely a session device unless you're using it to fill bags. I personally use mine mostly with the whip and a WPA at the end to feed it into my globe mk2, and another whip to my face. Can sit on it for a good long while like this, it won't deliver the thickest hits out for sure, but it hits consistently for a long while. If the draw resistance is too much, you also have the option of using the fan to push the air for you, that's typically how I decide a bowl is empty. The first couple hits are also a bit weak or non-existent, I find, but a few puffs in and vapor is consistent. YMMV because it's a lot of space to move vapor through, it was my solution though when I wanted to use my volcano on water and have the absolute laziest attachment setup to be lazying on the couch.

Dynavap is something I used a lot prior to my TM2 arriving, it was my heavy hitter when I wanted a face full hit and not the 10-15 minute chilling session on my volcano, or dealing with a bag late at night when the rest of the house is sleeping. TM2 did kind of replace my interest for Dynavap, but I would still recommend them for someone that wants a joint / torch kind of routine, or for long term camping / hiking trips where you won't have a way to recharge batteries and don't want the added weight of the kit. A DV stem & stash container & lighter is way easier to justify in a pack load. I'd probably definitely buy an Anvil or fmj for it prior to a trip though, since yeah there's been a LOT of improvements to their original design since then.

 

[TheThriftDrifter]

Volcano hybrid and a mighty are a pretty fabulous start to your vaping career.

Enjoy them, learn how you like to use them, immerse yourself in the knowledge of Fuckcombustion, save up your pennies, figure out what your next vas target is and then strike when the sales are hot.

So cool that you are helping your father!

I hear you on living in a cannabis unfriendly place, I hate the paranoia vibe.
One of the reasons why my first vape was a dynavap was because it's easy to hide and you can throw it away(literally) if things get heated. but now that I'm a balding middle aged man, no one pays me much attention. Which is just how I like it.

 

[Vaporware]

It’s fine if you want to use the highest temp settings since they still shouldn’t burn your material, but you keep talking about it as burning.

Just so you know, the flavor and amount of vapor you’re getting are better indicators of how used up your load is than the color, and unless you have compared the effects of max temp to lower temps repeatedly over a long period you may not realize what your favorite temp would be.

A lot of smokers and people who recently switched stick to the highest temps, but a lot of people also appreciate the 350-385 range or even lower 300s. I think it’s at least worth giving it a shot some of the time, and you can always turn the temp up mid-session to finish it off at a higher temp if you want to.

Just remember, if you didn’t already know, the color difference comes mainly from the plant material being cooked and the vapor comes mainly from the tiny trichomes that melt and boil off the surface of the flower. That is where the THC and stuff comes from, and with a purely convection heater it is possible to get pretty thorough extraction of that stuff without heavily cooking the flower.

Since you’re using hybrid heaters at very high temps though, your flower will get darker.

I don’t really recommend the Mighty because I think there’s a lot better stuff out there, but it may actually be a good fit for you right now. If you want to continue with slow sessions at max temps without burning, a lot of people say the Mighty works well for that.

If you want to get better flavor at lower temps and take one draw at a time as often or infrequently as you want one, an on-demand convection portable like the TinyMight or desktop like the FlowerPot (like Shit Snacks said there are also other similar good ones these days) would be a good way to go.

If you really push those at high temps though, you’ll have a lot more chance of burning your flower which will (in my opinion) ruin the flavor until you clean the whole vapor path. That would be the stem and cooling unit (or whatever you attach it to) for the TM, or the bowl and glass piece for the FlowerPot.

I don’t combust with these things, but I know it’s possible to if you’re really shooting for dark colors and complete extraction of every compound available. Personally I think the negatives of near-combustion temps outweigh the positives, but it may take some time and experimentation for you to agree, or you might just be someone who only likes high temps.