moving from Bongs/tobacco-pipes to vapor, differences.

[Jeye]

Hello all this will be my First post, I Recently Brought a Vapor Genie (handheld vaporizer) i chose this due to it operating like a traditional pipe (far less intimidating for me being a little set in my ways)

I'm finding that I am getting quite stoned from the vapor but i'ts not quite the same, with a bong hit you get almost drowzy which im sure is due to the smoke inhalation, as bad as it is this is the style of hit i've become used to. So what im asking is are there any herbs i can maybe mix with my Weed that will give me a simular high to a bong hit.

 

[J.R.R.Tokin']

Hi Jeye and welcome to the forum. What you are experiencing is quite common for people making the switch over from combusting to vaping. One thing I personally found was that after about a month of vaping exclusively I was getting the 'stone'. I think it took my body a while to adjust to the different levels of THC and CBD vaping was giving. However, it found it's equilibrium and now I have no complaints about the level of 'stone' I get.

If you have an electric, variable heat vaporizer it is easier to get to those CBD's that give you more of that heavier feeling as they vaporize off at a higher temperature - around 200c+. You can get there with the Vapor Genie with a bit of practice. I hit my vapes through bongs mainly. I love my Vapor Genie Coil in my bong, great combo.

As to what you can mix - if you go over to the Vaporizables section there is a lot of great info on Vaporizable herbs. Off the top of my head 2 things you could mix with your mj to get a 'heavier' feeling are Muelin and Wild Dagga. The Dagga should increase the effects from the mj a bit and the Muelin should add a bit of overall heaviness. I've got to be honest though, I've only just started experimenting with other vaporizables recently and am not too clued-up apart from what I've read on this forum. Though I'm sure one or two of our more experienced Psychonauts will chime in.

Keep at it. Don't lose heart - you'll find your balance soon

 

[Jeye]

@J.R.R.Tokin' Thank you for replying and taking the time to share so much information!

You have my interest with using the coil with a bong , ill definatly have to read up on doing somthing like that, is there any documentation/videos on this?

As for your suggestions on mixing herbs , thank you i feel like that and that alone is whats holding me back right now , ill definatly hit up the vaporizables section.


p.s just another question that id like to throw out there, misting your herb with water in theory to me would give more vapor is this somthing that is practiced, it seems appealing to me as it would increase the volume of vapor i enhale

 

[SF Giant]

No, in general to get the most vapor you want your herb to be good and dry. If your are not already using one a good torch lighter may give you the higher temperature hits you are looking for

 

[Stu]

I just did a quick search and found this post of mine about the VG w/ my glass... http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?pid=160760#p160760

I did a video at some point but couldn't find it.

 

[Jeye]

SF Giant thank you for replying, ill definatly get a torch lighter though ill have to order one stores dont seem to sell them here it was enough of a chore finding a non flint lighter so i dont contaminate my genie. -.-

 

[J.R.R.Tokin']

Here's your video Stu.

 

[Stu]

Nice find, JRR. Ninja search .

 

[OhTheAgony]

He couldn't even found his own video anymore aye?

I must get me one of those Vapolutions as well I guess..


I have realized that not everything I've been feeling all these years was coming from the holy marijuana itself, once I started converting to vapor. The sweet poisoning of the smoke has a lot more effects then I ever thought it would, and it still has me yearning for more from time to time.

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[J.R.R.Tokin']

He couldn't even found his own video anymore aye?

I must get me one of those Vapolutions as well I guess.. (

yup...it's got me more excited to get mine!

 

[2clicker]

misting your herb with water in theory to me would give more vapor is this somthing that is practiced, it seems appealing to me as it would increase the volume of vapor i enhale

i would think that the extra vapor your getting from water misted herbs is just water...? not sure how that helps other than the satisfaction of seeing larger clouds.

 

[MarcellusWiley]

misting your herb with water in theory to me would give more vapor is this somthing that is practiced, it seems appealing to me as it would increase the volume of vapor i enhale

i would think that the extra vapor your getting from water misted herbs is just water...? not sure how that helps other than the satisfaction of seeing larger clouds.

Agreed. it doesn't really make much sense especially when you consider the presence of THC-A and CBD-A which are supposedly better ingested fresh (for your body for health reasons) than vaporized.

But when you dry them out and turn those molecules into THC and CBD from THC and CBD acid then they become much more psychoactive.

Honestly I get the best, densest vapor from the dryest herb (and higher temp settings), so I don't really understand that one.

@OP:

for the closest hits to "combusting" out of a bong I use my EQ vaporizer at a high temperature setting (430 fahrenheit, 220 celsius-ish?)

This gives you more of the stoney high from the higher temp volatiles but you still aren't combusting. It is a bit harder on the lungs though.