MMJ: "healing compounds in the weed are lost in vaporization."

[Old Fart]

This is what a friend was told by a local dispensary "budsman." He had vaporizers for sale but gave that advice instead. Not having been in the game for long, I've never heard nor read anything like that. My 5 or 6 interactions with different dispensaries and staffs have left me not impressed with their knowledge.

So I'm asking for any links or info that anyone might have on this. Documented research would great, anecdotes and opinions not so much.

Thanks.

 

[Hippie Dickie]

certainly if i was suffering from a physical condition that needed healing, i would be into Rick Simpson oil extract and jamming down the 1 gram capsules. however, my stress is handled quite nicely by vaporizing.

some people like to juice the whole plant.

 

[Mark4MMJ]

This is what a friend was told by a local dispensary "budsman." He had vaporizers for sale but gave that advice instead. Not having been in the game for long, I've never heard nor read anything like that. My 5 or 6 interactions with different dispensaries and staffs have left me not impressed with their knowledge.

So I'm asking for any links or info that anyone might have on this. Documented research would great, anecdotes and opinions not so much.

Thanks.

"
How is it different from smoking? Why Vaporize?
Because it is much healthier than combusting!

Although both vaporization and combustion use heat to release the active ingredients, the major differences are the temperature used and the resulting by-products of each method.

When smoking, temperatures can reach ~800-900C. At these temperatures pyrolization occurs. This process not only chemically alters some of the actives (and thus, deactivates them), but results in harmful by-products including carbon monoxide, benzene, toluene, naphthalene, tars, particulates and polyaromatic hydrocarbons.

When vaporized, the herb stays below the point of combustion (approx. 230C). Desired active compounds are released, while harmful combustion by-products are dramatically reduced or avoided entirely.

After combustion, any remaining material is a black, soot-type ash. Since vaporizing doesn't burn the product, the structural integrity of the herb is for the most part maintained (the remaining material generally weighs less than the input material). Vaporized remains, commonly referred to as ABV (Already Been Vaped), are often saved by the user in order to further extract active compounds. Users can revape, cook with and/or make a tincture from the ABV in order to extract remaining actives. The color of the ABV can be a primary indicator of the difference between combusting and vaporizing.

Stripped of many of the byproducts of combustion, users often report a more refined and purer taste to vapors. Further, vapors are generally less irritating than smoke allowing the user inhale deeply and for a long duration. Many vaporists report a "cleaner" high relative to smoking, often void of the "couch-lock" experience and relative lethargy.

Many users report that they use less material when vaporizing as opposed to smoking/combusting. Also, the possibility of reusing/recycling the ABV allows a user to get multiple uses out of the same material."
http://is.gd/gKTEwR

 

[Oscar_Milde]

Yeah, I'd guess he's referring to the hash oil cancer treatment process, where it's used sublingually or topically to great affect. He's right in a sense but not entirely, as someone mentioned above which compounds are healing is subjective, if you vape to manage stress or something of that ilk rubbing oil into your skin won't do much for you

 

[SD_haze]

This is what a friend was told by a local dispensary "budsman." He had vaporizers for sale but gave that advice instead. Not having been in the game for long, I've never heard nor read anything like that. My 5 or 6 interactions with different dispensaries and staffs have left me not impressed with their knowledge.

So I'm asking for any links or info that anyone might have on this. Documented research would great, anecdotes and opinions not so much.

Thanks.

This isn't documented research but essentially factual.

You aren't losing any THC with vaporizing. A lot of medical issues are alleviated mostly from THC.
However, not every medical issue needs THC. Sometimes a fuller spectrum of compounds [that evaporate at higher-than-vaporizing temperatures] are needed.

SO:
vaporizing isn't for every single medical patient, but its still worth trying because it works for a lot of folks. When it works, it can be a very efficient delivery system!

 

[Old Fart]

Thanks for the replies. Looks like she'll have to try it for herself to see if she feels any good effect.

 

[vaporonly]

vaporizing isn't selecting only thc, it's about boiling points...you vaporize compounds that have boiling points below the temp your vaporizer works at. higher boiling point compounds are left behind, but they aren't 'lost' they are still in the plant material and you could still extract them.

in combusting compounds are 'lost' because they are destroyed.

from a strictly medicinal stand point, if you wanted everything you'd go edible