MiniVAP Vaporizer

[I.b.vaping]

I've been unable to get any contact (answer to numerous emails) from Hermes now for well over a week, has anyone else been able to get in contact with them?

Yeah email from Alfredo yesterday

Edit, just received an email 10mins ago!

 

[lazylathe]

Having an extended test with my decarb rings in just now. I dismissed them really quickly I think upon hindsight.. Maybe too quickly.
Definitely an increase in cloud production for me and my test strain.
Hits hard on the high too maybe? Can't decide if I'm imagining it.

So you have your replacement MV??? Hope it is a winner!!

I find the decarb kit does hit harder for me.
Also finding the small basket is perfect for one with the decarb kit. I have to use the large basket for sharing with the decarb kit, most likely due to the higher temps and faster extraction.

It is a sad time though... I had to pack up all my vape stuff due to us selling the house... All my WT's are gone for a few months... So only dry usage for me for a while!

 

[mixchu69]

So you have your replacement MV??? Hope it is a winner!!

I find the decarb kit does hit harder for me.
Also finding the small basket is perfect for one with the decarb kit. I have to use the large basket for sharing with the decarb kit, most likely due to the higher temps and faster extraction.

It is a sad time though... I had to pack up all my vape stuff due to us selling the house... All my WT's are gone for a few months... So only dry usage for me for a while!

Minivap with the herbie whip makes it as smooth as hitting out of water, but you probably know that.

 

[DrRishi]

I've been unable to get any contact (answer to numerous emails) from Hermes now for well over a week, has anyone else been able to get in contact with them?

I got a mail too today from Alfredo. Arranging my RMA.

 

[Edwardo]

You will likely not get a reply, and if you do, you will get 'the run around'.

 

[I.b.vaping]

You will likely not get a reply, and if you do, you will get 'the run around'.

Don't know about that I've only ever had to wait a day or two for a reply!

A bit of good news, at least for anyone on the fence about buying after reports about the weak taste of the glass-core model. I've been emailing Hermes about my experiences, and they still offer the teflon-core model as an option and plan to continue doing so.

Apparently, Vapor Nation requested only glass-core models, which is why we ended up with those as replacements. So, if you're looking to buy a MiniVAP, and prefer taste to clouds, you can still buy the teflon-core model directly from Hermes.


Very interesting... it really sounds like the glass core is intended to mimic the experience of using the decarb kit. However, it also seems like people using that kit are reporting better taste than the people using the glass-core. Hermes tells me they're running a bunch of tests and should have the results shortly. It will be interesting to see what they find.


I have to admit... I'm a little skeptical that will solve the problem. As I told Hermes, it seems to me the issue isn't just the higher temperature, but also the higher conductivity of glass. I'm not an engineer, so maybe that's a distinction without a difference. But I do know the taste even on blue is nothing like it used to be -- weaker than red on the old model.


Little bit, yeah, especially given that the whole reason they developed such a fanatic following in the first place was because of the amazing taste of pure convection. However, it's ultimately a question of preference, and as you can see from the responses, there are some who don't share our preference for taste over clouds.

Sheer speculation, but I'm guessing Hermes got a lot of requests for decarb kits, some questions about the health effects of teflon, and criticism over the long heat-up time. So, they came up with the new heating technology in an effort to capture that portion of the market. It makes sense, especially now that we know they will continue selling the teflon-core model.


Doubtful. My Cloud EVO uses metal baskets with a glass airpath, and its taste is far superior to my glass-core MiniVAP (but slightly inferior to my old teflon-core unit).

The idea that metal affects the taste makes intuitive sense, but has little or no basis in reality, at least in my experience. The teflon-core MiniVAP with the metal basket connected to the Flexicone delivered the best taste of any vaporizer I have ever tried -- hands down. It was truly a revelation, like that moment in Ratatouille where the food critic tastes the eponymous dish.

So which do you prefer? Teflon or teflon with decarb kit or glass core?

Edit really sorry for the double post again!

 

[Edwardo]

lucky you

 

[I.b.vaping]

Not really.. Not just me, I've spoken to a couple of people on here who have all managed to get hold of them today! , you sure you're using the right method?only trying to help a fellow celt!

Edit just this second had another email!

 

[Roger D]

First impressions on the glass core. There is so much vapor output this is crazy ! For the taste I have to taste some more before I can tell the difference.

 

[I.b.vaping]

First impressions on the glass core. There is so much vapor output this is crazy ! For the taste I have to taste some more before I can tell the difference.

Be sure to update on the taste soon as Cuz I'm waiting to pull the trigger thanks

Oh and the taste compared to teflon

Edit lol stoner,

 

[Roger D]

On red you can get to the bottom of the spectrum and get near combustion taste. I'm sure it's very interesting for extraction but of course you will get more "spent" taste on that red compared to the red of the teflon. It's still not an unpleasant taste for me. It feels like a full extraction, nothing wasted. The vapor comes so fast is mesmerizing. In two to three huge vapor bong puffs a small basket is completely done.

I have to test the blue setting, pink and green now.

 

[Sid]

My Teflon has been sent this afternoon, so it should be with me in the next couple of days, I'll then be able to give a comparison as I'll have both Teflon and Glass cored units both with the newest firmware.

 

[JJ Cool F]

I'm in the same boat, too, but I'm playing the long game and waiting for Hermes to release a discount code.

I'd be interested to know the difference in vapor quality between the teflon and glass cores. Does the glass core offer more decarboxylation and therefore converts more THCA to THC than the teflon core (without adding the decarb ring)?

Even if taste is slightly compromised with the glass core (awaiting confirmation from Roger D's latest tests), is the vapor hotter/harsher than with the teflon core? If not, then I guess the only thing the teflon core brings to the party is flavor, but the glass core brings more THC-potent vapor.

 

[Roger D]

Your mileage may vary, don't forget I have huge lungs and I only consume though water pieces witch makes it very different. What may seems smooth and easy for me may be harsh and hard for another. So far it's extra smooth and it's hitting me right on.

 

[I.b.vaping]

On red you can get to the bottom of the spectrum and get near combustion taste. I'm sure it's very interesting for extraction but of course you will get more "spent" taste on that red compared to the red of the teflon. It's still not an unpleasant taste for me.

I have to test the blue setting, pink and green now.

Hmmm being an heavy ex toker maybe I'll like that! Getting very medicated is of upmost importance to me and the end of the day... Thanks for the quick response no time like the present

Edit what about the heat up times?

 

[Roger D]

It heats up pretty fast but my teflon core (with beta firmware) does that too. I'll try to think about using a stopwatch to compare.

For me the point is to feel good and medicated, so I can move on and be productive in the kitchen. Taste is the cherry on top of that cake.

On blue I can get very nice taste, excellent aroma, you just have to adapt the technique, don't use the cap, and take very little drag (you don't have to pull like with the teflon core, you pull less) with a short piece of glass or straw.
Of course it does turns faster into a more hardcore taste, but it's not like I don't like it. After a couple bowls and some nice tasty drags I don't mind using only red on my teflon core.

If you're really into taste, more than the effects at this point of time you should go for teflon. Teflon is also better at not cooking your load if you're cap on. If you don't use the cap like me, there is no difference.

With small water pieces, the glass cored version gives really hardcore hits. I guess it's hitting the target. I like how quickly the basket is done.

 

[mmafighterthe25]

I've been unable to get any contact (answer to numerous emails) from Hermes now for well over a week, has anyone else been able to get in contact with them?

Yes just. Got an email from him

 

[Smknbud]

After 55 days my MV replacement from VN arrived yesterday. Teflon core.

Blue and pink are perfect with glass straw. Wonderful clouds....amazed. I missed the taste....now it's back. To play my broken record again, hopefully number three is a keeper....I'll know in about a months time based on past experience with #1 & #2.

Knock on wood.....I need the luck this time.

 

[mmafighterthe25]

I decided on the Teflon core. I dunno if he'll get email in time before ships apparent in request you're supposed to put core type. I guess I'll just upgrade to decarb kit later if I want glass core proformance.

 

[stickstones]

@Roger D what temps do you have your firmware set to? Mine came set to high temps and i was getting the spent taste on the second hit no matter the temp selection. Once I turned it down to the lowest setting I really enjoyed the lower temp.

 

[mmafighterthe25]

@Roger D what temps do you have your firmware set to? Mine came set to high temps and i was getting the spent taste on the second hit no matter the temp selection. Once I turned it down to the lowest setting I really enjoyed the lower temp.

So man you say get Teflon cause I got choice between both.

 

[wax]

Seriously mmafighter...you have been well aware of what each core does make up your own mind about what you want. Asking OVER AND OVER doesn't do anything. Which is probably why people are ignoring you.

 

[bigmouth]

On blue I can get very nice taste, excellent aroma, you just have to adapt the technique, don't use the cap, and take very little drag (you don't have to pull like with the teflon core, you pull less) with a short piece of glass or straw.

Oh, wow, using a straw without the top never even occurred to me. I'm going to give that a try!

Blue and pink are perfect with glass straw. Wonderful clouds....amazed. I missed the taste....now it's back.

I'm so psyched for you, dude! And also a little jealous... lol.

I decided on the Teflon core. I dunno if he'll get email in time before ships apparent in request you're supposed to put core type. I guess I'll just upgrade to decarb kit later if I want glass core proformance.

That strikes me as a smart move. You get the best of both worlds.

 

[mmafighterthe25]

If people want to answer me or not that's up to them. I'v been on here long time a member an I answer everyone. So if other people Wana be babies cause I type to much boo whoo. It's a flicking forum

 

[scottg402]

Having an extended test with my decarb rings in just now. I dismissed them really quickly I think upon hindsight.. Maybe too quickly.
Definitely an increase in cloud production for me and my test strain.
Hits hard on the high too maybe? Can't decide if I'm imagining it.

I don't think you are imagining it. That was my experience too but I am still testing.