mighty + med patient question.

[redrum891]

My father loves the volcano bags but the whip or using a bubbler to filter a bag is too much on his lungs at the moment for long draws...

Will the mighty+ work good for someone like him(since there's no balloon)?...

I cannot carry the volcano to where he is at his sisters (living in a state that has no MMJ) where they frown down upon the use and I have to ride him back to my house daily and for the time when we go grab food, he has to smoke on a joint but I really don't want him inhaling any smoke (i know a lot of people think smoking cannabis doesn't cause cancer, but when someone you love has delt with hell, the last you want is a small chance of another type or anything worse on his health and to see someone you love suffer and cannot do anything about it, is about as hard of a thing to deal with in life)

I just don't want to invest in the mighty plus and him not like it, being a joint smoker for 40 years, I was very scared the volcano would not be as good as everyone says and oh boy was I wrong...I love it so much. Just curious how hard it is to draw to get a good hit and how it compares to a volcano bag.

thanks!

 

[GoldenBud]

i got the same effects from a volcano bag vs Splinter V2 TCR on the high temps... but you can't get/buy Splinter V2 now..... hmm.. I'd say Tinymight is a better option for a heavy user other than Mighty+ (70W TM vs 42W Mighty+) Mighty+ basically requires slow draw for heavy users... it's not a 100% shot

 

[redrum891]

i got the same effects from a volcano bag vs Splinter V2 TCR on the high temps... but you can't get/buy Splinter V2 now..... hmm.. I'd say Tinymight is a better option for a heavy user other than Mighty+ (70W TM vs 42W Mighty+) Mighty+ basically requires slow draw for heavy users... it's not a 100% shot

Hows the mighty+ compared to a volcano ? think I should grab it or a 400 usd power bank to travel with, making it portable

 

[GoldenBud]

Hows the mighty+ compared to a volcano ? think I should grab it or a 400 usd power bank to travel with, making it portable

it will work, slow draws will be better. weak heater, slow draw is needed..
i prefer something like tubo/tetra/tinymight

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[darbarikanada]

the whip or using a bubbler to filter a bag is too much on his lungs at the moment for long draws...

if his tolerance is low, he might be ok with shorter draws on the mighty, but people with normal or higher tolerance need longer draws (6-10 sec). the mighty's known for its pretty easy draw, but for someone who's used to just emptying a balloon, it might not be a good fit.

 

[HughJass]

The Mighty has a slightly more restricted airflow than a volcano bag, but it’s not much more than a medium packed joint.(if he likes Really loosely packed joints it’s definitely more difficult to draw from)

I am a little concerned that if you’re saying a volcano bag through a bubbler is too much draw, that even the mighty may have too much draw resistance. (The mighty is like a 7/10 for ease of inhale, with a volcano bag being a 9.5/10 , I don’t have a TM yet but I would rank it slightly higher than the mighty from everything I’ve heard, at about a 8/10, maaaybe 8.5/10, but it will still be slightly more than the bag as well)

And exactly what @darbarikanada said.
Especially-

the mighty's known for its pretty easy draw, but for someone who's used to just emptying a balloon, it might not be a good fit.

Honestly I’m not sure what I would go with, the mighty isn’t a bad choice, but it’s not going to be completely open like the bags.

A TinyMight is a FANTASTIC option, I’m willing to say that if he’s willing to actually give it a try to figure out what temperature/pack/inhale rate he likes/needs to get satisfying hits, that he will LOVE the TM.

Plus the TM is easily 10x the device of the Mighty, (unless you REALLY NEED long lasting INTERNAL battery life. -If having a couple of extra charged 18650s to swap in doesn’t bother you (which it shouldn’t if you where considering lugging around a massive battery pack) then the TM should’ve even be in the same sentence as the Mighty.)

That being said in about a month they will release the TinyMight2 and it will be even easier to inhale from, and has a few updated features.. if you can wait about a month..(release is supposedly around the end of September)

I’m really not sure I would pay $400 for a battery bank when for $400 you could have a TM with every accessories you could want and a small stockpile of batteries to keep you going for a whole week without a charge. (Just my )

But good luck in finding something that works for you and him!

To top things off;
The Mighty is definitely no slouch, but now that I’ve experienced what devices like the TinyMight and Tafée Bowle can do, there’s no way I could ever go back to the mighty. (Both for draw resistance, and honestly just flavor and effects. The only thing I like better about the mighty is the precision temperature control, but the TM basically has that too, its a dial like a classic volcano has)

 

[redrum891]

it will work, slow draws will be better. weak heater, slow draw is needed..
i prefer something like tubo/tetra/tinymight

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Holy shit, how are you getting that much vapor?? I use terp pearls with a reducer on the volcano and even with bag / whip to bong (i have freezepipe klein recycler, thats smaller than that) and I don't see it fill up like that.....whip or bag.

The Mighty has a slightly more restricted airflow than a volcano bag, but it’s not much more than a medium packed joint.(if he likes Really loosely packed joints it’s definitely more difficult to draw from)

I am a little concerned that if you’re saying a volcano bag through a bubbler is too much draw, that even the mighty may have too much draw resistance. (The mighty is like a 7/10 for ease of inhale, with a volcano bag being a 9.5/10 , I don’t have a TM yet but I would rank it slightly higher than the mighty from everything I’ve heard, at about a 8/10, maaaybe 8.5/10, but it will still be slightly more than the bag as well)

And exactly what @darbarikanada said.
Especially-


Honestly I’m not sure what I would go with, the mighty isn’t a bad choice, but it’s not going to be completely open like the bags.

A TinyMight is a FANTASTIC option, I’m willing to say that if he’s willing to actually give it a try to figure out what temperature/pack/inhale rate he likes/needs to get satisfying hits, that he will LOVE the TM.

Plus the TM is easily 10x the device of the Mighty, (unless you REALLY NEED long lasting INTERNAL battery life. -If having a couple of extra charged 18650s to swap in doesn’t bother you (which it shouldn’t if you where considering lugging around a massive battery pack) then the TM should’ve even be in the same sentence as the Mighty.)

That being said in about a month they will release the TinyMight2 and it will be even easier to inhale from, and has a few updated features.. if you can wait about a month..(release is supposedly around the end of September)

I’m really not sure I would pay $400 for a battery bank when for $400 you could have a TM with every accessories you could want and a small stockpile of batteries to keep you going for a whole week without a charge. (Just my )

But good luck in finding something that works for you and him!

To top things off;
The Mighty is definitely no slouch, but now that I’ve experienced what devices like the TinyMight and Tafée Bowle can do, there’s no way I could ever go back to the mighty. (Both for draw resistance, and honestly just flavor and effects. The only thing I like better about the mighty is the precision temperature control, but the TM basically has that too, its a dial like a classic volcano has)

I keep hearing a ton about this TM but scared to invest into it if it doesn't work that good, it is hard to find good reviews from smart people who aren't being paid to do the review...

I can't wait a month! I guess mighty will do? no point in getting a tm if new version is coming out, i would feel dumb for not waiting.

im about to yolo and grab a power station 500w and have the volcano in the car lmaoo but that guys video was pulling huge vapor rips from the bong? i must of not had my whip attachment work good and a bag doesn't fill up with that much vapor unless i guess if i turned the temp past 420f which i try to keep my max temp at. i start 395 then go to 420 for 2 bags with reducer + terp pearls which means less flower

 

[GoldenBud]

Holy shit, how are you getting that much vapor??

it's also the strain that matters, this is very potent strain/pheno too, but also the vape ofc, TM can produce clouds like this at 8-9.... stronger than Mighty, feels like desktop....dense vapor.....

 

[HughJass]

There are dozens of vapes waaay more powerful than the volcano/mighty. Usually they are less mainstream, but that is usually due to low production numbers.
Just like when talking about cars, there’s less hyper-cars than there are Toyota Corollas, and just because the Corolla is considered the most reliable and ‘most popular’ (as in the case of Storz and Bickle) doesn’t mean it’s “the best” or fastest car by a long shot..

The TM or any actually decent device will produce that much vapor.
I would have one already/am just waiting for the TM2. I only went with the Tafee Bowle because of its non alarming form factor. But even the Bowle, which is less powerful than the TM is about 5x better than the Mighty, and I haven’t touched my mighty or volcanos since.

Storz and Bickle is consistent, but honestly very overpriced for somewhat underwhelming performance. (Especially not being able to replace the batteries in the mighty is a huge problem, not just for longevity, but being able to use it all day long)

I keep hearing a ton about this TM but scared to invest into it if it doesn't work that good, it is hard to find good reviews from smart people who aren't being paid to do the review...

There are soo many great options out there, and here is one of the better places to hear real peoples opinions as opposed to people ‘being paid’ for their review.

If you don’t trust the people answering your question, then actually do some research for yourself and take a look in the forums at other people who have asked similar questions.

Almost none of us here on FC are being paid to shill anything, the people here are here because they are passionate about these devices, and them being able to fit their needs.
- (This is why I’m genuinely sad to see you stuck with storz and bickle and contemplating getting a mighty. When for the same price you could have everything you’d want, and more, and still have cash leftover with a device like the TM, which is actually worth its price tag)

The TM is considered to be a universally fantastic benchmark that’s portable and has replaceable batteries.

If you want even more power than that you can get one of those injector style devices or some of these handmade beasts that will crank out some serious vapor. One new one that’s coming out is the Cloud Connoisseur Zenith, is portable with that desktop level power.

But again you do you,
The mighty is consistent (and dammit it better be because that’s about all it’s got) but honestly the TM could be just as consistent, in an even better way. (And because the battery is replaceable, a little foresight of charging an extra or two means you never run out)

Even on low temp the vapor production from the TM is waaaay better than the mighty, or even the volcano for that matter.

 

[Vaporware]

I think the TM2 is a little more expensive and I haven’t heard of any huge upgrades in it. The current TM is already better than at least 90% of what’s out there in my opinion, so if you can’t wait I’d just order one. Unless you really like hybrid session vaporizers, I think the TM is an easy choice over the Mighty.

Very few if any people on here are paid for their opinions, and if they have any relationship with a manufacturer/shop they should have a tag next to their name indicating it, probably with more info in their signature or elsewhere.

Be careful on YouTube though. The people telling you Utillian stuff is the best out there probably *are* being paid.

 

[redrum891]

There are dozens of vapes waaay more powerful than the volcano/mighty. Usually they are less mainstream, but that is usually due to low production numbers.
Just like when talking about cars, there’s less hyper-cars than there are Toyota Corollas, and just because the Corolla is considered the most reliable and ‘most popular’ (as in the case of Storz and Bickle) doesn’t mean it’s “the best” or fastest car by a long shot..

The TM or any actually decent device will produce that much vapor.
I would have one already/am just waiting for the TM2. I only went with the Tafee Bowle because of its non alarming form factor. But even the Bowle, which is less powerful than the TM is about 5x better than the Mighty, and I haven’t touched my mighty or volcanos since.

Storz and Bickle is consistent, but honestly very overpriced for somewhat underwhelming performance. (Especially not being able to replace the batteries in the mighty is a huge problem, not just for longevity, but being able to use it all day long)




There are soo many great options out there, and here is one of the better places to hear real peoples opinions as opposed to people ‘being paid’ for their review.

If you don’t trust the people answering your question, then actually do some research for yourself and take a look in the forums at other people who have asked similar questions.

Almost none of us here on FC are being paid to shill anything, the people here are here because they are passionate about these devices, and them being able to fit their needs.
- (This is why I’m genuinely sad to see you stuck with storz and bickle and contemplating getting a mighty. When for the same price you could have everything you’d want, and more, and still have cash leftover with a device like the TM, which is actually worth its price tag)

The TM is considered to be a universally fantastic benchmark that’s portable and has replaceable batteries.

If you want even more power than that you can get one of those injector style devices or some of these handmade beasts that will crank out some serious vapor. One new one that’s coming out is the Cloud Connoisseur Zenith, is portable with that desktop level power.

But again you do you,
The mighty is consistent (and dammit it better be because that’s about all it’s got) but honestly the TM could be just as consistent, in an even better way. (And because the battery is replaceable, a little foresight of charging an extra or two means you never run out)

Even on low temp the vapor production from the TM is waaaay better than the mighty, or even the volcano for that matter.

I think the TM2 is a little more expensive and I haven’t heard of any huge upgrades in it. The current TM is already better than at least 90% of what’s out there in my opinion, so if you can’t wait I’d just order one. Unless you really like hybrid session vaporizers, I think the TM is an easy choice over the Mighty.

Very few if any people on here are paid for their opinions, and if they have any relationship with a manufacturer/shop they should have a tag next to their name indicating it, probably with more info in their signature or elsewhere.

Be careful on YouTube though. The people telling you Utillian stuff is the best out there probably *are* being paid.

I see the TM is out of stock....I guess not having a medical state, my flower is going to be low tier obv so I guess that's why my volcano doesn't chunk clouds like that but I only do 390f then a 400f bag(chamber reducer with 4 terp pearsl) but works good enough to get feeling good.

I guess if tm is out of stock, then a mighty plus is 2nd best option? considering mid tier flower won't produce a ton of vapor from the shit thc levels.

I had a killer grow op my dad grew for 15 years, 6x 600 watt light / 4 x 8 tables(2) / carbon filter / etc.... but got busted from a child hood friend. he has went through hell the past year and finally recovering. I should be using this money to help get a roof. I made a gofundme for a roof but no bites. I just know that when he was on probation and couldn't smoke, that is when he developed the cancer and makes me wonder if it really helps prevent, but it helps his stomach and being malnourished bad at one point, the food helps a ton too.

so sad to live in the usa and have hardships and locked in a cage over cannabis.

if anyone has a better handheld suggestion I can look into, since tm is sold out, I guess the marketing of storz n bickel just makes the scared noob consumers into making sure they a quality vape on the first try than buying multiple ones.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I see the TM is out of stock....I guess not having a medical state, my flower is going to be low tier obv so I guess that's why my volcano doesn't chunk clouds like that but I only do 390f then a 400f bag(chamber reducer with 4 terp pearsl) but works good enough to get feeling good.

Benefits of the volcano are the massive air pump filling a bag, with a huge bowl capable and a full temper range, pure convection plugged in power, doesn't sound like you are using it for its best case scenario at all... Not a very versatile device imo

I guess if tm is out of stock, then a mighty plus is 2nd best option? considering mid tier flower won't produce a ton of vapor from the shit thc levels.

It has often been out of stock, for pre-order, being fulfilled within a couple weeks, I wouldn't expect this time to be any different, for them to get new stock of the TM, even as the TM2 is almost ready for sale... A Mighty is beyond second option compared to the TM, it is like a last resort lol not even a close comparison they are nothing alike. Mighty slow heat up (session style where it cooks the herb for you regardless of you hitting it) with limited power and temperature annoying to load terrible design physically imo annoying plastic bath etc.

if anyone has a better handheld suggestion I can look into, since tm is sold out, I guess the marketing of storz n bickel just makes the scared noob consumers into making sure they a quality vape on the first try than buying multiple ones.

Yes S&B is all marketing BS! Pretty much, especially the medic certification is fairly meaningless, old tech being sold at a premium for so many years, they don't offer anything better than the competition really in my experience...

If you want to save money, get some pure convection on demand with less compromises, try xmax v3pro or xlux Roffu, they are peer convection on demand with session ability, some more versatile connection options, replaceable batteries, wider temp range, etc.

And yeah a plug-in vape like a log, cheapest to get from Alan@toasty-top.com if you email for a bamboo Heat Island, but you can also look at the enano for an example of a mainstream log vape. These are on demand pure convection, much more efficient than a volcano, could be better for your use style... And yeah like the Zenith can hook up to a 510 mod to be fully portable as well, a lot of logs can run off of car power already, underdog is notorious for this and even offers a kit for it I believe or they did?

Look around here, in the Ask FC section, check various product threads, you will see if you start from the most recent pages and skim backwards there are a lot of great reviews and tips, general feedback from average customers, as well as enthusiasts... Forget about mainstream reviews

 

[TheEncore]

I would go with SS suggestion of the v3pro. It's only $80 or so. It will have a little draw resistance given he is used to balloons.

The desktop alternative to fill balloons without breaking the bank would be the Arizer XQ2. I got mine for $180.

That said my next vape will be SS other suggestions for more flavor and fewer hits... and they are more expensive.

 

[justcametomind]

If you think the money on a Mihgty+ would probably be better spent elsewhere, have you ever thought about going with cannabis infused foods when he’s not home? At least for the time being. No need to inhale anything and get joints out of the equation while you decide if you need a portable and which one.

 

[redrum891]

If you think the money on a Mihgty+ would probably be better spent elsewhere, have you ever thought about going with cannabis infused foods when he’s not home? At least for the time being. No need to inhale anything and get joints out of the equation while you decide if you need a portable and which one.

i live in a non mmj state...i wish

i have the volcano hybrid and wished i could use it in the car.

id get another desktop if needed as long as it can work with 180s car inverter and puta good clouds. the whip on ghe volcano doesny push much vapor out or i did not have it high heat sibce i was new and a balloon worked killer. 390f then 420f.

i wondered why spme people on ebay selling a barely used volcanos. ill def google the products recommended and research them. just shocked to heat storz n bickel iisnt way ahead kf the game. ive always see people brag hard on the volcano and youtubers who dab will shit on vaporizers and say the volcano is the exception

 

[staircase slight of hand]

ive always see people brag hard on the volcano and youtubers who dab will shit on vaporizers and say the volcano is the exception

That’s the marketing you keep claiming you’re trying to avoid. If you’re going to make these decisions rationally, you really need to come to terms with that fact. The only reason your brain wants to declare S&B products as superior to the alternatives is because S&B is paying big money to make you believe it.

 

[Vaporware]

From what I hear the Volcano was great when it was released and is still good today. I think even the Mighty was probably pretty good when it was released, but they’ve barely updated it since.

Personally I went with the FlowerPot and similar things for desktop, and I’m glad that I did but I still think the Volcano works well for a lot of people and there are other great options too.

On the portable front I just think the Mighty is a middle of the road kind of device. There are much worse things out there, but in my opinion there are much better too.

If the TM doesn’t work for you, unless you can find a Firewood 7 or 8 or another of the top tier portables that are hard to get right now I would look at @Shit Snacks ’ cheap recommendations or look at butane powered options like VapCaps, Sticky Bricks and similar pieces (O’Connell, Doug’s Woodery, Dreamwood), etc. You can get solid performance there in the $50-200 range, but they do take more technique to get right.

My personal overall favorites are the Nomad and Toad (both made by FCer Dan Morrison), but they take a lot of patience to get. The TinyMight is the most similar in a lot of ways, and it has the advantage of temp control which makes it easier for new users.

 

[HughJass]

i wondered why spme people on ebay selling a barely used volcanos.

just shocked to heat storz n bickel iisnt way ahead of the game.

You’re in good company. Many of use begin our journey believing storz is the benchmark, (which I do honestly like they’re superb consistency)
But..Yeah sadly…
I’m realizing I should’ve sold one of mine when a friend of mine was interested in it.. I convinced them to get a better device for half the price and they definitely aren’t interested in getting a volcano anymore.

They still aren’t ‘bad’, they do one thing well, and VERY consistently with very little real maintenance.
But for my current situation (and it sounds like for yours as well) they just don’t make as much sense as an on-demand portable device. (Not to mention the volcanos are abysmally terrible for stealth with the constant crinkling of bags and low-vibrating garbage-disposal-sounding pump switching on and off)


As for the TM, no worries, pre-order really kinda means made to order/orders on the way-

for pre-order, being fulfilled within a couple weeks

From what I understand this is how it’s always been/ the TinyMights are selling as fast as they make them.

You will get it in a week or two from your order. (Which is better than you can say for Storz and Bickles official site)


There are some desktop style vapes that work with a car inverter, I forgot the name but I scrolled past a thread with the same idea/need. (And could’ve sworn I saw a desktop with a car inverter plug)
That being said, the TM should be able to deliver the same amount of power as the inverter device could, and it wouldn’t be tied to a cord, could be taken and used anywhere.

But again do search for a car inverter desktop, and please look into the TinyMight a bit more, I think you’d be pleasantly surprised, and if you want to upgrade in a month, I bet you could sell it on here a slight discount and buy a TM2 for in between a $100-150 more.

Welcome to FC by the way!
And by all means- ask away if you have any other, or new, questions!! (either on this post you’ve made or on the specific devices thread)
Just because storz and bickle isn’t ‘the best’ doesn’t mean every other brand is any better. (And as Vaporware said, a mighty is not the worst choice or the best, right in the middle)

TinyMight is a strong exception, as well as the Tafée Bowle, but sadly the main market is flooded constantly by cheap overpriced crap (which is why storz, which is actually consistently reliable, became the king of the main market)

 

[redrum891]

it will work, slow draws will be better. weak heater, slow draw is needed..
i prefer something like tubo/tetra/tinymight

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You’re in good company. Many of use begin our journey believing storz is the benchmark, (which I do honestly like they’re superb consistency)
But..Yeah sadly…
I’m realizing I should’ve sold one of mine when a friend of mine was interested in it.. I convinced them to get a better device for half the price and they definitely aren’t interested in getting a volcano anymore.

They still aren’t ‘bad’, they do one thing well, and VERY consistently with very little real maintenance.
But for my current situation (and it sounds like for yours as well) they just don’t make as much sense as an on-demand portable device. (Not to mention the volcanos are abysmally terrible for stealth with the constant crinkling of bags and low-vibrating garbage-disposal-sounding pump switching on and off)


As for the TM, no worries, pre-order really kinda means made to order/orders on the way-

From what I understand this is how it’s always been/ the TinyMights are selling as fast as they make them.

You will get it in a week or two from your order. (Which is better than you can say for Storz and Bickles official site)


There are some desktop style vapes that work with a car inverter, I forgot the name but I scrolled past a thread with the same idea/need. (And could’ve sworn I saw a desktop with a car inverter plug)
That being said, the TM should be able to deliver the same amount of power as the inverter device could, and it wouldn’t be tied to a cord, could be taken and used anywhere.

But again do search for a car inverter desktop, and please look into the TinyMight a bit more, I think you’d be pleasantly surprised, and if you want to upgrade in a month, I bet you could sell it on here a slight discount and buy a TM2 for in between a $100-150 more.

Welcome to FC by the way!
And by all means- ask away if you have any other, or new, questions!! (either on this post you’ve made or on the specific devices thread)
Just because storz and bickle isn’t ‘the best’ doesn’t mean every other brand is any better. (And as Vaporware said, a mighty is not the worst choice or the best, right in the middle)

TinyMight is a strong exception, as well as the Tafée Bowle, but sadly the main market is flooded constantly by cheap overpriced crap (which is why storz, which is actually consistently reliable, became the king of the main market)

Cool and thanks , the video above is something that looks super potent, even though he said the strain was another part(which sucks for me, living in a backward ass state) that device he is using is pumping out tons of vapor, looks like smoke and what is that box device connected ? Looks like some kind of chamber for cooling or something?

I thought the freeze pipe klein recycler(glycerin) with bag attachment would work real good but doesn't seem to see it fill up, I guess my bags need to be hotter, plus a good strain to get that kind of vapor? I tried the whip to bong and was a noobie, and didn't work well unless I put the pump on, and then still it didn't push out much. I didn't mess with temps much on the volcano though when trying it. I think just water alone cools it down enough without needing a glycerin coil.

Thanks for all the friendly responses and helping me out. I wish the tm2 was out and ready to ship!! That might be something I grab in the future if the hype is real. I definitely get the volcano being the medical vape, super easy to use and clean is indeed real nice, someone who doesn't use smart phones could learn to use it and be happy without adjusting much temps.

 

[Shit Snacks]

the video above is something that looks super potent, even though he said the strain was another part(which sucks for me, living in a backward ass state) that device he is using is pumping out tons of vapor, looks like smoke and what is that box device connected ? Looks like some kind of chamber for cooling or something?

That video is the Tetra (X or P80 as it connects to an e-cig mod box for the power and temp control) battery powered pure convection on demand (similar to the tinymight) the bowl is the glass stem with basket screen, ran through a glass water piece (can do dry with a hook etc too)

 

[redrum891]

That video is the Tetra (X or P80 as it connects to an e-cig mod box for the power and temp control) battery powered pure convection on demand (similar to the tinymight) the bowl is the glass stem with basket screen, ran through a glass water piece (can do dry with a hook etc too)

Just curious, which would you think would work better? Instead of putting the glycerin coil on top, I could put a whip attachment or I see lots of people using this, in the 1st picture with the circle bubbler, not sure if the shape has anything to do but I assume less air it has to travel the better the vapor? (the klein recycler uses 18mm, which I can reduce to 14mm if needed)

 

[HughJass]

less air it has to travel the better the vapor

As I understand it yes.

What would you be using these with/for?
I personally don’t like whip attachments, but that’s totally subjective. (They just get stinky and are a pain in my experience to clean/need to be replaced semi often, you could get glass stems for both of those though as a backup)

(I personally like to use one of the MJArsenals Micro rigs for most of my water cooling needs, (dynavap and volcano bags) but for a big injector style vape like those in the video you’d want something like what you’ve got pictured, with a bit more cooling capacity)
You didn’t ask me, but I’ve really liked those ball style ones when I’ve used them.

 

[redrum891]

As I understand it yes.

What would you be using these with/for?
I personally don’t like whip attachments, but that’s totally subjective. (They just get stinky and are a pain in my experience to clean/need to be replaced semi often)

I have a bag adapter and bought a hydratube for the volcano, was thinking the hydratube would work good(not sure if i wanted pay $150 for obsidian)that filters through water then goes in the bag, but have heard they can make the bag get moisture in it. So I can do that or blow a bag up and then attach it to the bong and use the whip to pull through the bong.

I don't like bending over to hit a bong everytime and a whip would make it relaxing to smoke on, but does the length of the tube make a big difference in terms of getting super milky vapor when exhaling? I just thought the klein recycler was neat, since it has a freezable glyc coil and instead of putting that on it, I could have a top notch bong unless the circle design is better? freaking thing cost $300 for the set. I don;t know why I got into glycerin bongs....it isn't fun having to re-adjust all organize my stuff/put glyc in freezer after each session. I even have the bong dual XL which is killer for flower, tbh that bong hits good and smooth without freezing it...Wish I could sell the bong dual xl, I think the klein is alright for dabs, since if you dab a lot, it can cause itchy throat and the glyc can keep the dab temps real low. so I don't really regret that, unless dabs here and there are fine(i only dabbed once and since i've been locked up over growing, i get super paranoid having anything more than half oz of flower and oils are a big no-no here. sucks so bad to get stoned to only feel like the cops are gonna knock my door down over a joint lmao, they weigh the cannabis plants wet here, so 6 plants can weigh 20 pounds easily. I had 24 x 3 gallon buckets / 6x 600 watt setup going, good thing I got rid of it when narcs came knocking with no warrant and they came back month later to find a mother plant and a bunch of clones, wasn;t sure if it was the cops, i saved my ass from getting trafficking charges)

 

[HughJass]

I don't like bending over to hit a bong everytime and a whip would make it relaxing to smoke on, but does the length of the tube make a big difference in terms of getting super milky vapor when exhaling?

More tubing is the same as more air in the bubble/water pipe. Which means more dull/less flavor and slightly less clouds.

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These are beyond fantastic, and fit PERFECT with the volcano bags.

They are so small they don’t affect flavor at all, in fact they Enhance the flavor. (Sometimes they will even bring the flavor back when the bowl is halfway through and getting harsher)

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It’s design is fantastic, and honestly might even be small enough that your dad could cool the volcano bags through one with no issues with his lungs/any draw restrictions.

At $39 it’s a great deal. However the Hydra is a good one too, especially if you like big ‘chuggers’. (Atlas is more bubbler style and hydra is like an klein recycler)

I really love how small, light, and effective these are. (They aren’t going to ‘cool’ the vapor as well as your frozen glycerin coils will, but they really take the edge off of the itchy throat and harshness, by about 90%)
But glass is super subjective.


That sounds like a nightmare legally speaking! I wish they weren’t so crazy over a plant, comparatively speaking, so benign compared to Any other drug. Especially the legal ones.

You really should do yourself a favor and get something that’s ON-DEMAND portable. So with on demand, you’re only creating vapor/new smells when you inhale. So the smell is about 1/10 of what something the the volcanos is.

I feel WAAAY more comfortable knowing not everyone within a 500ft radius can smell what I’m doing, regardless of legality.
The Tafée Bowle changed my life, and it’s not the best on-demand portable by a long shot. (Technically it’s got a couple of really neat and unique features over even vapes like the TM, but the TM is better from what I understand is basically every single way)


Also what costs $300??? The glycerin setup you already have? If so damn, still nice to have for those occasions, but I also understand why you might be trying to make it a viable setup with a more suitable base.

 

[PeteyS]

I have a Crafty+, same heater and cooling unit as the mighty+. Heres my take.
It can give medium strength hits on the highest heat setting with a fairly long hit. Another way to look at it, if you put in 0.3g into the mighty, it will take at least 10 minutes to finish it off, regardless of how hard you hit it. 0.3g is like the size of a average joint.

On the highest heat setting, you can do small mouth to mouth hits with good success, but you will not feel the vapour as you inhale.
I think for higher strength hits, a dynavap, sticky brick, or anvil may be a better choice. However those vapes need to be heated manually using a butane lighter. With the dynavap, you can load 0.1g per bowl, and clear it in one hit if desired. So three bowls might take 3 minutes if your in a hurry. I think the sticky brick can hold up to 0.5g.

That being said, if you are coming from smoking joints, you might not be happy with the performance of the mighty+.