Monsoon
Well-Known Member
If it hits the lowest amount, it works out to a $50 savings with an extra month before you get it in your hands. I guess it depends whether the savings is worth the wait.
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Sinclue
OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
Of course you can skip the whole warranty or not question by buying the AA from one of our (FC) supporting retailers. At least a couple have a lower price and you'll get it sooner from a known and trusted Authorized Dealer.
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little maggie
Well-Known Member
The most recent massdrop deals are not very good. The digital volcano is $99 more on massdrop than the $409 and shipping is extra. It's available at close to that price at a couple of established online stores. I'd buy from them instead. Vaporseller has the digital for $399 and free shipping.
NinjaMindTriks
Ninja Vapor Enthusiast
Vaporseller is $521 for the classic with a valve set and the digital is $651. MassDrop is quite a bit cheaper, theirs come with a valve set too.
little maggie
Well-Known Member
I don't know what a valve set is and why it's needed. But I don't think I'm getting a volcano anyway. I'm hoping they put the enano back on sale. Otherwise I'm happy with my UD which is my only plug in. I will get the Arizer Air if enough people buy it. Love my Solo.
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little maggie
Well-Known Member
Just wondering whether the Crafty and Mighty on Massdrop are good prices
scottg402
Well-Known Member
I don't think I've seen it for less.
The Arizer Solo is up on Massdrop for $119.99.
Also the most expensive grinder I have ever seen! 14k Gold Plated Stainless Steel. But $550
(That's the lowest. MSRP it $995)
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/phoenician-elite-grinders
Also the most expensive grinder I have ever seen! 14k Gold Plated Stainless Steel. But $550
(That's the lowest. MSRP it $995)
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/phoenician-elite-grinders
sickmanfraud
Well-Known Member
nigel
And shepherds we shall be,for Accuracy & Discovery
And Massdrop has a history of selling grey-market vapes. When they do this, it is against the manufacturer's terms and will violate any warrantee.
I'd check first with the manufacturer to ensure it is legit before putting any cash down.
I know in the past (with the Ascent and a few other vapes I know of) they have said it was a full warrantee, and after people bought and found out, they say "Oh... we meant a Massdrop warrantee, not a manufacturer warantee." That's pretty slimy if you ask me.
Okay... I just checked the current sale, and in the comments they say "if the manufacturer won't stand by their units"... What complete bullshit. They know. They've been caught before selling units in violation of distribution agreements, and try to play innocent as if they don't know and try to shift blame to the manufacture.
Just plain dishonest.
The comments further down indicate that it is still a non-authorized sale. (I was giving MD the benefit of the doubt in that they might have worked something out since the last time. Nope. Scumbags.)
Check first about anything you get off of MD. Some of the sales are legit, but then they pull shit like this pretending to not know and try to shift focus away from them, as if it is anyone else's fault.
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
grokit
well-worn member
Massdrop is violating no regulations, or agreements. It's the distributors, and the manufacturers that continue to sell to them after violating their agreements that are to blame for the grey market issue. If a distributor is selling to massdrop in violation of their agreements with the manufacturer, then they should be cut off and not allowed to distribute products for that manufacturer anymore. Simple 
nigel
And shepherds we shall be,for Accuracy & Discovery
I did state "in violation of DISTRIBUTOR agreements", but that could be easy to overlook, so thanks for making this more clear.
[But I don't think it is *manufactures* that sell in violation of their own agreements, as that would then be an authorized sale. And some *indeed do* legit business with MD (or authorize their distributor to). And in those cases -- to be perfectly clear -- I have no issue with those drops, outside of doing business with a questionable company. So it is really the distributors, or really one specific one that does this.]
But that doesn't change the fact that:
- MD knows they are grey marketing;
- They play dumb about the issue until caught;
- They take the "it is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission" approach when they can't do legit product acquisition, putting their customers at risk;
- They are deceptive about the warrantee, implying it is the original manufacturer's (the previous drops had mention of a full warrantee on the page, but the current one doesn't have one so that shows they are aware that it is a problem and can't play dumb);
- When caught they claim it is a MD warrantee, which should be suspect as they shouldn't have access to ANY units, so fi they do get locked out, there is no source for replacements, so that's also a misleading statement as they can't guarantee. Again with potentially screwing their customers over.
- They try to blame the manufacture, when they know fully what they are doing.
I don't think there is anyone that can see that as anything other than really slimy.
SIDENOTE: The reason there are agreements in place is, in part, to protect everybody in the supply chain. When MD grey-markets their units, they are actually screwing over everybody else selling them. Think of the Local Head Shops, as one example, that now won't carry a unit because it is being undersold by MD and they can't pay their employees or light bills on razor-thin margins. So they don't carry it, and like it or not, not every body (like us) is comfortable with anything MJ related online. That's a chunk of the buying population that will thus have no access to this vape. Or even the person that just wants to see one in person before buying, that now won't buy from the LHS as they are comfortable buying online, but don't mind wasting LHS's time.
I know (most) everyone's inclination is just to think about themselves first ("I need to get this cheap!") and doesn't want to think beyond the moment nor the big picture, but in reality, there is a whole eco-system in place here that makes a living off of vaping. If you remove the ability to make a living, there is no incentive to make the product available to the public, and thus no incentive to innovate in the vape world.
[I know there is also the whole "making a living is dirty" (ie, money is dirty) that thinks they should be given everything for either free or close to free, that's gonna say profit is bad and MD is a champion of the people, but I really hope none of those short-sighted people are here at FC. Honestly that's just thinking about their own gain, which is what they criticize in others. Bloody Hypocrites.]
So, add to the list above:
7. They screw the whole vaping world over for their own short term gain.
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If a distributor is selling to massdrop in violation of their agreements with the manufacturer, then they should be cut off and not allowed to distribute products for that manufacturer anymore. Simple
I know on the outside (and from the surface) it seems like it is that simple, as that's what I used to think myself.
In reality, what is simple is armchair-quarterbacking, which -- by its very nature -- is acting from a place of limited information. There is more complexity here, but honestly none of us should be expected to know. Just suffice it to say that things that seem simple on the outside usually have more going on than we suspect.
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NinjaMindTriks
Ninja Vapor Enthusiast
Large 4 piece Santa Cruz Shredder is on MassDrop for $54.99. I love mine!
dylanpv123
Well-Known Member
Just wanted to let everyone know who's been lurking on this page for a awhile that the ESV just hit mass drop! Should take a look! I'm about to grab one.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/elevape-sv
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/elevape-sv