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[Kosherbubba]

I guess you could but it wouldn't be as accurate or produce results as good as using sous vide method or dedicated decarb device like the nova. Which will also smell less.



The MBM will produce strong tincture but it's up to you to define the strength by amending the ratio of active material to solvent (Everclear). Also depends on the quality of the starting material. It's more about the ingredients and process than the machine or tools used. The MBM just simplifies the process.

I was feeling small toaster oven, in garage, rather than use large oven.

 

[GreenHopper]

I was feeling small toaster oven, in garage, rather than use large oven.

It's an option but I don't know how accurate the temp regulation is with those toaster ovens. Plus you'll have to find a way to manage the smell, like turkey bags. A NOVA will be smaller, safer and easier to use with mostly zero smell. The down side is its much more expensive. If you do use a toaster oven then don't leave it running unattended and get a proper temp probe.

 

[MyCollie]

It's an option but I don't know how accurate the temp regulation is with those toaster ovens. Plus you'll have to find a way to manage the smell, like turkey bags. A NOVA will be smaller, safer and easier to use with mostly zero smell. The down side is its much more expensive. If you do use a toaster oven then don't leave it running unattended and get a proper temp probe.

I have an Ardent Lift and it works quite well. I do get some odor from it though. About as much as I get from the SV method. It’s not too strong at all. I still put it in the bathroom with the vent running.

 

[GreenHopper]

I have an Ardent Lift and it works quite well. I do get some odor from it though. About as much as I get from the SV method. It’s not too strong at all. I still put it in the bathroom with the vent running.

Which method do you prefer, NOVA or Sous Vide? I haven't tried the SV method yet but I kinda want to give it a go and I'm up for some SV steaks as well

 

[Krazy]

"wait a minute, we are WAY over the *MAX* line. So I split it in half and had success. So, lesson learned, even though it SAYS you can put that much in it, you can't. Stick with a max of 3 cups/oz if you have homegrown "looser" plant material.

Same here. In my experience it is a goldilocks machine. Best results if you stay away form both the upper and lower limit.

Can you decarb in a toaster oven? Is it better to decarb there.

You can decarb in a toaster oven although it is not the best option. If a toaster oven is your only option it probably means you are on a tight budget and can't afford to waste tour cannabis. So keep in mind: Time and temperature = decarbing. So just be aware of the actual temperature inside the oven rather than what the toaster over tells you, lol.

 

[MyCollie]

Which method do you prefer, NOVA or Sous Vide? I haven't tried the SV method yet but I kinda want to give it a go and I'm up for some SV steaks as well

The Lift/Nova is so much easier.

It’s not that the SV is at all difficult. I just had issues keeping the bags down and sealed. I weighed the bags down and triple bagged the contents but a few times they still floated. One time the outer two bags actually leaked at the seal. Thankfully the third bag held up. I think the duration and temperature caused it. I’ve SV’d for 48hrs at lower tempsand never had that happen.

Both had a similar amount of odor...

 

[Kosherbubba]

The Lift/Nova is so much easier.

It’s not that the SV is at all difficult. I just had issues keeping the bags down and sealed. I weighed the bags down and triple bagged the contents but a few times they still floated. One time the outer two bags actually leaked at the seal. Thankfully the third bag held up. I think the duration and temperature caused it. I’ve SV’d for 48hrs at lower tempsand never had that happen.

Both had a similar amount of odor...

I it true some people use the lift nova decarboxilator to fill veggie capsules from the decarbed cannabis they get from the nova. I thought in theory it needs to mix with some oil to get the full affect. If this is true I can save a lot of time without infusing it in oil.

 

[Krazy]

This is the longest of the MBM threads so I will ask here.

My Imaginary evil twin sister is currently running an imaginary cactus extraction in her MBM; anyone else tried this?

125g of super dried green part only, dash of C ₆H ₈O, water to full line. 190f, 8 hours and resetting until done.

I googled "Magical Butter Machine San Pedro Cactus" with no results.

 

[Rainydaye]

For those that want to vape oil, here is what I got from the people at Magicalbutter

Here are 2 ways to accomplish your goal:

1. If you want to make it with vegetable glycerin to be used in a vape pen here is the recipe:

1 1/2 cups vegetable glycerin
1/4 cup propylene glycol
1/4 distilled water
2.5 oz of botanicals

This version will not be as potent because cannabis works best with fats and sugars. You are better off doing option number 2.

2. Make MBO (Cannabis oil) first which is as followed:

750 milligrams of Everclear 190 proof grain alcohol
1/2 cup of water (due to 5000 feet elevation)
2.5 oz of botanicals

Select the “Temperature” button and set it at 160ºF then press the “4 Hours/Tincture” button.
After the cycle is finished, let rest for 30 minutes. Strain into a no-stick saucepan.
Place it on low heat on your stove or hot plate and bring to a slow boil. CAUTION: Materials are highly flammable. Could cause injury. Never use an open flame, gas, or propane burner or permit smoking around the cooking process.
Continue to cook for 40-45 minutes. Patience is essential. Cooking time will vary based on a variety of factors.
Consistently stir the oil off the sides of the sauce pan until the consistency reaches that of warm maple syrup.
Remove from heat. Let cool

You will end up with about 1/2 cup of very potent cannabis oil.
You would then take the oil and combine it with all the ingredients from option one minus the 2.5 oz of botanicals because they are in your oil and run it at 160 degrees for 1 hour.

I hope this helps you out. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

Best regards,

Iza

Iza
MagicalButter.com Support Team
iza@magicalbutter.com

 

[CarolKing]

I it true some people use the lift nova decarboxilator to fill veggie capsules from the decarbed cannabis they get from the nova. I thought in theory it needs to mix with some oil to get the full affect. If this is true I can save a lot of time without infusing it in oil.

You don’t have to use oil with your caps. It will be less messy. Just ingest some peanut butter or some kind of oil after taking the capsule. Be careful to drink some water, it can cause indigestion.

 

[wolf torn]

Got to say I'm loving my nova + magic butter combo

anyone thinking about it just dooooo it.

I make coconut oil caps like champ now

 

[FlyingLow]

are there lots of parts to clean with MB2?

I find it hard to beat simple double boiler butter extraction, and there are so few parts to have to clean. .

 

[wolf torn]

are there lots of parts to clean with MB2?
.

The unit is only 2 parts. Super easy to clean. I like the fact I can do 8 hour run and have it auto stir for me.

 

[MyCollie]

I was researching Soy/Nut milk makers today. Seems as though the MBM and a Soymilk makers are very similar or at least it appears that way to me. Maybe the same type of machine but with different heat and timer settings?

I haven’t had a chance to use my MBM yet but will give it a try soon.

 

[CarolKing]

are there lots of parts to clean with MB2?

I find it hard to beat simple double boiler butter extraction, and there are so few parts to have to clean. .

The BM has a cycle that cleans the machine after you are done making oil or butter. The MB is a simple machine to use.

 

[ashtonford]

The BM has a cycle that cleans the machine after you are done making oil or butter. The MB is a simple machine to use.

the generic magic butter machine I purchased still going strong plus has the others beat with a decarb function that works perfectly.

 

[FlyingLow]

Well... Anyone still using their Magic Butter machines??

These guys were HEAVILY invested at Sweetwater 420 Festival for Widespread Panic this weekend and I briefly met one of their reps and caught a show special offer that I am about to take them up on. Their branding was EVERYWHERE around the MainStage and in the VIP areas.



I am a bit hesitant to jump right in so late, wondering if a MB3 is around the corner...


So users, what is the verdict?
After all your experience with MB, do you prefer to use this device or make your infusions the old fashion way???

Do you still use your devices with any regularity, or does it sit on the shelf?

 

[MonkeyTime]

Well... Anyone still using their Magic Butter machines??

These guys were HEAVILY invested at Sweetwater 420 Festival for Widespread Panic this weekend and I briefly met one of their reps and caught a show special offer that I am about to take them up on. Their branding was EVERYWHERE around the MainStage and in the VIP areas.



I am a bit hesitant to jump right in so late, wondering if a MB3 is around the corner...


So users, what is the verdict?
After all your experience with MB, do you prefer to use this device or make your infusions the old fashion way???

Do you still use your devices with any regularity, or does it sit on the shelf?

Mine comes out every time I can use it, I've not gone back to the dark side. It's consistent and easy. I decarb with my Nova, then infuse in my MB.

 

[BestBuds]

I just made a batch of alcohol tincture with a half oz of bud. Decarboxylated in the nova and made the tincture in the mb machine. Easy as pie and good as hell.

 

[MrNaturalAZ]

Well... Anyone still using their Magic Butter machines??

Yep, love it. Easy peasy and predictable outcome. Just made a batch of coconut oil a couple days ago. Still using my original method: 1oz green plus melted coconut oil to "min" line or 2oz plus oil to "max", run 1hr at 220 to decarb, add liquid lecithin (2 tbs for 1oz/min or 4 tbs for 2oz/max) and run two hours at 160. When finished, allow to settle for 20-30min and decant most of oil, then strain/squeeze remainder from remaining sludge.

On a related note, while my machine is still running strong, I just noticed today that the handle of the base/container is cracking:

I'll probably just glue it somehow, and while I'm sure it's well out of warranty, I may reach out to them anyway to see what they have to say, and perhaps find out how much a replacement base would cost.

 

[Dampfofen420]

Hello,
I want to make strong capsules with the MB2e.
If I take 500ml coconut oil & 100g herbs with 25% thc, then the 500ml should theoretically contain 25,000mg thc.
Should then be 525ml magic.
If I fill that in 525 capsules, then each capsule should contain scarcely 50mg thc. Is that right? Thank you so much for looking over it.

Greeetz
Dampfofen420

 

[MrNaturalAZ]

Try this dosage calculator, @Dampfofen420 ...

http://www.howtoedibles.com/categories/essentials/recipes/coconut-oil

 

[Dampfofen420]

Hi,

my problem with the calculator was that you can't enter 500 units. 500ml = 500 capsules.
But well, a little thinking helped. Many thanks for the link.
To get the capsules as strong as possible, I thought about the following.
First produce rosin and decarboxylate.
Cut the rosin chips into small pieces and decarboxylate them as well.
Place the rosin chips with the coconut oil in ne lecithin in the MB2e and run a 2-4 hour cycle (or longer). Remove material and filter. Now add the rosin and add another 2-4 hour cycle.
Or do you think it is better to add the herb normally to the MB2e after decarboxylation without producing rosin first?
I should have decided by the weekend.

Greetz
Dampfofen420

 

[MrNaturalAZ]

Hi,

my problem with the calculator was that you can't enter 500 units. 500ml = 500 capsules.
But well, a little thinking helped. Many thanks for the link.
To get the capsules as strong as possible, I thought about the following.
First produce rosin and decarboxylate.
Cut the rosin chips into small pieces and decarboxylate them as well.

Decarboxylation is a precise step such that there is an optimum amount. Too little and it leaves unconverted THCA. Too much, and it will begin to destroy THC. There are charts available online indicating the optimum time at various temperatures (hotter for shorter time or cooler for longer time). Around 250f for 45 minutes or 220 for an hour are common times with a good balance between speed and criticality of timing.

As for when to do it, It could be done at any point in the overall process, and once is enough. Multiple attempts would be cumulative. Some people believe it is more effective to decarb the dry weed beforehand. I've found it to be quite effective doing it in the oil.

Place the rosin chips with the coconut oil in ne lecithin in the MB2e and run a 2-4 hour cycle (or longer). Remove material and filter. Now add the rosin and add another 2-4 hour cycle.
Or do you think it is better to add the herb normally to the MB2e after decarboxylation without producing rosin first?

Well, there is a limit as to how much can be infused into the coconut oil, and you are getting close to that limit. Also, I'm not sure how well the MB2E will perform with regard to adequate grinding at that ratio of solids to oil. Maybe someone else here has tried? I'd think if you ran a long cycle - 4 hours or more - you should be OK with the dry buds and oil in the MB2E. But that's just my opinion, of course - only way to know for sure is to try it.

Edit: Yes, your calculations are correct - for the values you supplied, your finished product should have 50mg THC per ML of coconut oil.

 

[Dampfofen420]

Hi,

I always decarboxylated with herbs at 240F@40min in the oven. Oil until it stops forming bubbles.
Next week I should get a Nova Lift. Then the topic is finished.

I see the problem with filtering the herbs. I don't get the oil bottled in capsules without being filtered.
And with filtering about 1/3 of the active substances should get lost, as I have read here.

If i give the decarboxylated Rosin Chips 4h at low temperature into the MB2e, extract the remaining cannabinoids. Then filter, add rosin and run another 4 - 8h cycle at low temperature.
The rosin yield is over 25%.
Means 25.000mg x 0,85 = 21.250mg thc. At 100g herbs. In addition, what you could get out of the chips.

Due to the low temperature there should be no over decarboxylation.

The whole one hour before it is finished add lecithin and perhaps again in the refrigerator and then further work on.

for such quantities an old woman has to knit for a long time. And I have no money for weak butter. I hadn't considered how much the MB2e needed. That's why every step has to be well planned.

Thank you very much for your answer.

Greeetz
Dampfofen420