Looking to downsize my glass how small is too small? Thanks

[verdampersweats]

I have a Herborizer just like the RooR version which is XL bubbler and i am actually still in lingo with it. The amount of sucking needed for me seems too much the peice is not overly large per se but i am guessing it is a 24cm 40mm peice? Maybe 26cm and 50mm but with the straw too and downpipe it seems a huge length for vapor. But i still cough like mad more so because i have to breathe and not suck and pool and then suck in which is my old combustion method with a J.


Im looking at a 100ml standard bong, Ordered and coming in a few days with tilt and ice notch. But im also looking at this Grav Labs x Snic nano beaker which is 5 inches tall with 10mm joint. It seems to have the stability being a beaker to hold the herbo without falling over but im worried about the size.


Im thinking it will be too harsh, But then again im thinking i will cough less if i am take smaller draws with moe dense packed vapor. That bugs me also Herbo with small amount + big bubbler = wispy and lots of sucking. I might actually cough less if i take smaller denser pools. And how do people manage to smoke out of a pen?


Im short on cash so it really does annoy me i cannot sample without buying. So can i have some advice guys on the 5" beaker? Im willing to stick it in the fridge between sessions and add diffusor balls if needed.

 

[herbivore21]

I have a Herborizer just like the RooR version which is XL bubbler and i am actually still in lingo with it. The amount of sucking needed for me seems too much the peice is not overly large per se but i am guessing it is a 24cm 40mm peice? Maybe 26cm and 50mm but with the straw too and downpipe it seems a huge length for vapor. But i still cough like mad more so because i have to breathe and not suck and pool and then suck in which is my old combustion method with a J.


Im looking at a 100ml standard bong, Ordered and coming in a few days with tilt and ice notch. But im also looking at this Grav Labs x Snic nano beaker which is 5 inches tall with 10mm joint. It seems to have the stability being a beaker to hold the herbo without falling over but im worried about the size.


Im thinking it will be too harsh, But then again im thinking i will cough less if i am take smaller draws with moe dense packed vapor. That bugs me also Herbo with small amount + big bubbler = wispy and lots of sucking. I might actually cough less if i take smaller denser pools. And how do people manage to smoke out of a pen?


Im short on cash so it really does annoy me i cannot sample without buying. So can i have some advice guys on the 5" beaker? Im willing to stick it in the fridge between sessions and add diffusor balls if needed.

You sound like you need a new vape man, not necessarily a new piece.

If you like large hits, you need a large can on your rig. Otherwise ain't no place for the excess vapor that you sometimes can't fit into your lungs to sit except inside your vape (which generally means with convection vapes that the vapor is lost out the air intake in-between hits)! I am not familiar with the Herborizer but know that you can get epic clouds from the E-Nano, Mighty, Crafty, Sublimator, Herbalizer, Minivap and more. I suggest considering how much cashish you have and work out a budget for a new vape that will give you better performance.

Of course, if you do want to stay at the same sized hits and with the same vape, then a smaller piece may help you, but I'd wanna try out any potential new piece before buying in this case to ensure it'll deliver the results you need!

 

[EverythingsHazy]

Even though bongs fill up with vapor that gets denser and denser at first, at a certain point, you are just inhaling the vapor and not the fresh air that was in the piece, and the vapor coming in starts to thin out, the vapor in the piece will too. It doesn't just pack in there more densely than a larger bong (assuming you hit the 'saturation' point on both, where they are both full of the vapor and not fresh air). Small pieces are harder to "milk" than bongs with big cans, because as fast as the vapor is going in its being inhaled out of the piece. You can milk a gb-186 better than you can milk a glass stem, and those are at the opposite ends of the inner-volume/size spectrum.

Something that you might find a lot more comfortable than cooling your piece/vapor, is doing the exact opposite. Using hot water in the piece. It adds a lot of moisture in the form of humidity, to the vapor, and makes it easier on the lungs than cold dry clouds.

 

[verdampersweats]

I get the saturation point and noted. I got the little 100ml version of the RooR blue today with ice pinch and lean and even though i have no diffusor or downpipe yet i filled it to the U bend with water and sucked gently and i like it...


I raised the gauze too, to get closer to the injector and even at the highest setting which is supposed to be 230c it takes about 10 to 12 sucks to really brown the material. So it seems it is improving!! I only coughed once as well and this is half the volume of the original peice it came with.


I may even go smaller here, But this 100ml has an 18mm joint, And now im not sure if i should go with 14mm or 18mm. I like the little straw mouthpeice but if it was shorter and i add a diffusor how do i create a more crispy draw with less drag?

Do i go 14mm downpipes? Or would you go 18mm to give more suction to compensate for the diffusor holes? Or have i got it backwards? If i go my the RooR guide bigger joint is classed as more aspirational for the smoking. Meaning bigger lung capacity needed which is not what i want. My lung capacity is actually what i think made me cough... the sucking took it right to the back of my lugns and im on my last breath when i finally get my vapor.

 

[lwien]

Something that you might find a lot more comfortable than cooling your piece/vapor, is doing the exact opposite. Using hot water in the piece. It adds a lot of moisture in the form of humidity, to the vapor, and makes it easier on the lungs than cold dry clouds.

Don't overlook this very good advice from Hazy.

 

[verdampersweats]

I will try both hot & cold and see which would make it thicker and which less irritating? Im coughing less for sure on the smaller peice because im not inhaling so much to get my vapor and it will not hit the back of the lungs.

And my last hour of reading says i would be better off with a small hole RooR.de diffusor as well and smaller holes create less drag. So i just need to figure out which water i like, And which size of diffusor in a small peice will make it easier.


For the record, It would be 18mm in a 30mm peice. I only saw someone do that once (Mc Finns bubbler) everyone else is using 14mm.