I just put in an order at at about 2:30 East coast time- hopefully it ships today
(I would've put it in earlier but i slept in- I'm in the pacific northwest)
To anyone struggling to deal with the logo covering the links they want to use (though it's about to be fixed
, I got around it by pulling firefox's zoom out to maximum (50%)- which put said logo off to the right of everything else.
Also, while the description of the ceramic atomizer mentions use of the Ti2 sponge wick, it does not mention whether it is included or how to order it. Also I don't see any in the accessories section.
In any event, I sent invisiblefriend a PM days ago- which in retrospect should have been a post in this thread- about mods to use with the Kind MD atomizers.
I really hate to sound critical when I am so excited at the prospect of what appears to be the first company since (to quote invisiblefriend) "Therma???" (i spent a lot of money with them) to design and sell forward-thinking, quality-first, health-focused oil atomizers, but I want everyone in this thread to get the best out of their Kind MD, and I would hate for invisiblefriend to waste money and time ordering more of the true i30 if, in fact, i am correct and the batteries I am about to suggest are superior options to it. Of course, all this will probably be moot when the Kind Temp control battery is released, but even then i might be presenting a budget option (~$55 vs $100) Allow me to explain:
The True i30 Has quite a bit going for it- a 60 second cutoff timer, pass-through capability, a spring-loaded 510, thermal protection, voltage mode (most ecig mods no longer have this in favor of wattage, but other threads on FC and my experiences indicate that voltage can bit preferential for our application) fron 2-8v, and a built in 2200mah lipo battery.
So let's start with the cons of the alternative units (known as mods in the ecig world) I am about to suggest: while they retain pass through capability, a spring loaded 510, and thermal protection, they do not have a voltage mode, the cutoff timer is 25ish seconds (I didn't have a stopwatch when i checked) and they run on 18650 batteries (though whether this is a pro or a con is a bit subjective- for example replacing an 18650 can be done anywhere, on the fly, unlike a lipo- and appropriate ones can be purchased at vape shops)
However, when it comes to voltage, these units can go up to 8.4v (though i haven't tested this- but then, I doubt we will be seeing atomizers with enough resistance to need anything like 8.4v, so this really only applies if one intends to build their own massive heating coils in an ecig RDA or something), and all the way down below 1v (I threw an .78 ohm donut atty on mine and dropped the wattage to 1W and the mod was displaying .988v- i bet it would go lower with a higher resistance load).
However, the biggest reason I suggest you all consider these alternatives is that they not only have temperature control (available on all kinds of different ecig mods), but they allow the user to set what is known as the Temperature Coefficient of Resistance- or in other words, to control the way the mod calculates temperature, allowing us to fine-tune the temperature control to suit our needs.
I originally came across an explanation of this here:
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...herm-nife30-coefficient-of-resistance.676506/
but I will do my best to give a cliff notes version. To quote the link,
"Temperature Control works by monitoring changes of resistance in the coil and using this to estimate temperature changes. It works because resistance increases linearly and predictably with temperature, although the amount that it increases varies greatly between wires.
TC is possible only with wire that has a reasonably high Temperature Coefficient of Resistance (TCR). The Coefficient is a numerical value that indicates how much resistance will rise for a given temperature increase relative to its starting resistance. When the coefficient is high resistance will increase a lot as temperature increases. When it is low, resistance rises a smaller or negligible amount."
Why does this matter to us? Well, most e-cig mods have these values for nickel/titanium hardcoded into their firmware- which not a big problem for the Kind Titanium atomizer (though adjustable TCR is still quite helpful here because titanium wires differ, ambient temperature differs, and different atomizers have different airflow, meaning different amounts of cooling), but would likely create gross inaccuracies with the ceramic atomizer- in fact, if I recall correctly, invisiblefriend mentioned that it was a bit of a challenge getting it to work with temperature control. However, adjustable TCR allows us to compensate for the variables created by the use of a ceramic donut. I don't have a temperature probe (or any Kind MD atomizers with silver wire- just donut atties from others with nickel wire), so i can't say what levels of accuracy are possible, but subjectively speaking, "in the field" if you will
, I have found adjustable TCR to be extremely helpful when dialing in the vape I want.
Hopefully this video clip will make things a bit more clear (it's an ecig reviewer calibrating temperature control with a probe on both titanium and Stainless Steel wires (yes, you can temperature control stainless steel- you just need adjustable TCR, or better yet a TCR map/table, but we will go there later)
I can't seem to embed the start time I want for the clip- please scroll forward to 23:56 for the calibration i mentioned.
Now, The batteries (mods) I am suggesting are the SXK Nebula V3 and the SXK Zero V3 (some of you may have noticed a few other options in the TCR explanation forum thread i linked, but I suggest these two because I know they can be purchased with the "V3" firmware of the SXK chip in these mods, which is the most accurate). More options may be released soon, the important element is the SXK "DNA40 Clone" chip, which is one of I believe 3 chips on the market with adjustable TCR.
the Nebula V3:
The Center one is substantially heavier as it is made of brass while the others are aluminum- I have the black one
The Zero V3:
As far as I am aware, the V3 firmware only comes in these color options- other colors might not be V3 firmware FYI.
The other great mod/battery option for the technically-inclined enthusiast with a bigger budget is a mod containing Evolv's new DNA200 Chip. This chip has a computer application to control it, which allows for endless customization of its interface, performance, etc. (and even datalogging). invisiblefriend, your team will likely find these quite useful for R&D purposes if you intend to continue utilizing ecig products/technology in the future- but then, you probably already know that
. These chips allow one to input a table of resistance and temperature values to create a curve/map for temperature control of any heating element with a usable TCR.
See the chart in the screenshot below:
I have high hopes for the Kind MD temp control battery, because as those of us familiar with the ecig market know, the chinese ecig manufacturers in shenzen (including eleaf and evic) are relentless in their imitation of innovations such as those contained in the DNA200.
Oh- also the Smok Xcube II has adjustable TCR capability, but I have not researched it yet. However, I believe there is discussion of it in the ecigaretteforum thread I linked that explains TCR.
In closing, I want to give a big Thank You to invisiblefriend and the rest o the Kind MD for their hard work, for raising the bar in concentrate vaping, and creating healthier vaping options.
I also want to make it clear that I mean
no criticism of the TRUE i30 (nor invisiblefriend or Kind MD of course)- I have never used it (nor the eleaf istick 30w)
In fact, I am quite inclined to assume it's great at the very least- It's just that I have been getting fantastic performance out of the unique temperature control on my SXK Nebula (granted, with other companies' atomizers) and it has a very similar cost (I paid $47 shipped from 3fvape.com in china- they carry both mods). Also, given that the ceramic atomizer has a silver alloy and apparently skyrockets in temperature at a mere 3.2v, I suspect that being able to go below 2v outside of temperature control mode might actually come in handy.
I'm excited to see what Kind MD has in store for us with their temperature control battery- perhaps a DNA200?
I'm just posting this in hopes that this information helps someone achieve the vape they are looking for- and because I love vaping R&D and technology
Cheers and Happy Vaping!