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my friend -- I am SO SO SO GLAD you brought this UP .. & honestly SO GLAD to see some opposition
as crazy as that sounds coming from a manufacturer -- Too much good stuff n positive things isn't always a good thing --- I want to explain our moves and concepts -- and i like to re-think things through --
and certainly want to focus on health aspects since that is now and will always be # 1
NOT PROFIT !!!!
(as an example - if this was brand new news about ceramics/or any technology we use or if we didn't do significant researching and in-house as well as university testing - if all was not super positive and I would not allow my child to use ..... once he is of age of course ..lol -- no production would be made and any that was in warehouse waiting for sales would be thrown away without a thought !!
we actually have done this with some materials and some final products even within our 1st year --- 3k in one spot and another grand in raw material we found out was re-sold to us under a different name !!!! gone and discarded due to further research .. even though we try to do as much research as we can )
with that said -- I hope it helps build confidence step by step .... we want each product to speak for itself -
and we don't just listen to the results we come up with in-house - we also look at the industry and what has happened and been recorded within ..
so ceramic was never on my list for any heating element --- but it was simply because of a few reddit posts and some great posts on FC -- after reading I said no way !!!
--- WE get incredible conversations and discoveries in this community -
another reason I'm so glad our KINDMD roots are here in Fuck Combustion !!!!
but I cannot take things at face value ....
I read the forums and even directly contacted effected individuals who brought to the surface .. amazing info sometimes going to the peeps in-line and learning they are part of separate marketing team -- lol
but I take that with a grain of salt and doesn't even matter - i still take claims serious !
THE HEALTH CONCERNS ARE VALID even if JUST ONE PERSON is effected IMO !!!!!
so we moved on in testing ---
we went to many manufacturers of ceramic and heating elements separately to get all data - from start to finish of manufacturing - from specs to ingredients and how things are even made -
Its amazing the things you learn when asking the ones in the know !
I did get a lot of similar answers that I saw online from professionals who work with ceramics ... and those all put me in a real positive view regarding ceramics -
HONESTLY PRE _TESTING .. I had negative ideas about ceramic from online forums but had positive feelings when going by the professionals and scientists .... but the jury was still out !
yet again after all of the facts from the ceramic companies - I couldn't imagine it being an issue due to some obvious reasons ill soon bring up -- but again let us see -- and continue research !
I start seeing many others release these disk type units --- i purchased about everyone i could find and I ripped apart and matched up with the 100's of element samples I have from here in USA and all around world -- especially germany and hong kong --
--- I was able to obviously find the exact match for each manufacturer -- and honestly I cannot say anything negative about any of them --- I can just simply see peeps are using so so many different ones - some seem cheap - some seem obviously much more quality when speaking of the element alone - - and in two cases it wasn't really ceramic -- well it was but probably i hope unknown by the manufacturer it was ceramic mixed with another element made to make the "so called ceramic element" -- nothing unsafe - just another material that is actually getting more testing in recent times and I know if the manufacturer knew they would announce it -- !
(i will be bringing this material up very soon since we may use for a special dab type element to be used with out devices -- - sorry for shameless plug -- but we went in that direction .. )
basically after reviewing the market -- nothing negative to say except the way it is put together is more important !!!
be concerned about how it was installed -- is solder being used after the fact -- or did the manufacture make with proper "safe" leads that need zero solder - which in most cases is the largest danger in about 90 percent of the market --
You will see with all our products - and it will be much easier to notice with our larger products where the user will be able to take apart and rebuild if wanted so very easy and we focus on making sure no solder is used -- the parts screw and pop open and closed to allow manufacturing without soldering !!!!
there is no need unless someone is doing in the basement or saving money during manufacturing ???
so i can only say currently in the ceramic market -- IMO and the research KindMD and many professionals have come to -- is the ceramic disks are relatively --
actually very very safe ! especially the ones out in the market today by the "good guys" and of course us at KindMD --
-- i want to remind everyone i started with a huge dislike for ceramic and honestly still feel it has a lot of room to grow -- we are all still in the 2nd generation / maybe 3rd generation of these types of elements
i even didn't have the best experiences with it (taste wise due to wicking and other reasons) until I started using in larger applications and I noticed the amazing control we can take by using it moving forward --
** I still was not going to release anything until we had so so many requests for it -- we started looking into ... and after getting the confidence in the product and developing the right trusting relationship with our supplier .. I then decided to add to the KindMD line ---
but I will say at this stage -- for no actual scientific reason except .. why not play all things safe -- even if just one or 100 peeps had issues with ceramic -- they feel it was due to dry particles ( i will address that in a second )
- but with this feeling out there -- about any potential risk -- and even after reviewing so many elements -
I consider them very very safe ! Yet I must stress that there is no surgical grade ceramic heating elements available yet??
(the specs of the one we use are great and incredibly safe at .80 ohms - but in the future we will have an actual medical grade ceramic element ) because of this I would certainly say consider them a disposable item and don't burn them clean - it will be fine and safe - but again why take chance if you have any concern ! --- if you are really that concerned you can even water filter -- but again I do not feel there is any worries or need
maybe a 6 month lets say .... and then discard and get new --- -- they are priced as disposable -- even though they will last last last --- but why take any chance --- its our bodies --
stay within manufacturers temperature range of course ! (this is only area i would be concerned about aside the solder) but there is an easy way to stay away from - do not burn them clean ..
** please know i am advising all of this just for anyone to be safe -- - but know after my research I feel extremely safe and confident with the ceramic elements we will be releasing **
and on a medical level we are releasing this device --- which is why our wicking was so very important !
No particles will be released from KindMD devices --- but honestly none are released by others --- unless the quality is so so poor ! and I have not found that even in the cheapest ones !
(maybe to keep everyone feeling safe - we can add a filter for particles ?? -- this certainly could work just as the water filter works -- of course in a worst case scenario situation ... )
any thoughts on a secondary filter ??
will it make you feel safer ?