olivianewtonjohn
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Jimmy Kimmel-A Message for the Anti-Vaccine Movement
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djonkoman
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so what actually started this trend? last few weeks I'm hearing a lot about it, but I would imagine this movement existed longer? why now the spotlight?
here in the netherlands we also have some people like that who refuse to vaccinate their children, but they're the deep-religious kind, living in the bible belt and wearing black socks, but I have never heard any autism aruments from them, just the religious reason. there also was an outbreak of some contagious desease a while ago in the bibble belt, among kids, one ofd those deseases that every kid usually gets vaccinated against.
but luckily all our crazies chose to live together in the bible-belt, so outside the biblebelt we can still enjoy herd immunity. and there are bigger issues with those nuts than vaccination, for example our most extreme religious politiocal party only recently(last year or so) allowed women to hold any official position in their party, and that was only because they were forced by the law.
here in the netherlands we also have some people like that who refuse to vaccinate their children, but they're the deep-religious kind, living in the bible belt and wearing black socks, but I have never heard any autism aruments from them, just the religious reason. there also was an outbreak of some contagious desease a while ago in the bibble belt, among kids, one ofd those deseases that every kid usually gets vaccinated against.
but luckily all our crazies chose to live together in the bible-belt, so outside the biblebelt we can still enjoy herd immunity. and there are bigger issues with those nuts than vaccination, for example our most extreme religious politiocal party only recently(last year or so) allowed women to hold any official position in their party, and that was only because they were forced by the law.
momofthegoons
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This started in 1998 with a fraudulent article that was published in a medical journal. It stated that the MMR vaccine, in particular, was causing autism. Because of it, 100's of people didn't get their children immunized and it has started a 'rebirth' of measles.
For further info here is a Wiki article on it.
basement farmer
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That was very good.
Should be mandatory viewing for all parents.
Should be mandatory viewing for all parents.
olivianewtonjohn
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Glad you liked it.
Its pretty much like evolution at this point. What is taught to 18 yr olds in college is a "controversy". The science behind immunization is very basic and is taught in general immunology courses. I have seen people discussing vaccines and how they dont want to get them for their children yet have no understanding of herd immunity (immunology 101-fundamental to this discussion), its sad really.
Two new videos by SciShow (great youtube channel BTW):
basement farmer
My face is melting...
Couldn't agree more. What I think some people generally don't understand (or choose to ignore) is that you can't get any closer to "natural" than using your own immune system. It's certainly safer than most of the antimicrobial treatment options that are the alternative should someone get infected.
I find it absolutely astounding how people are able to pick and choose what common established medical facts and practices that they want to and follow as well as how ignorance is so easily able to trump common sense. Kimmel did such an excellent job of nailing it....
....and it was very funny too.
We saw this locally a few years ago with pertussis. One of our large, local families didn't vaccinate and guess what happened? You can probably guess who was right there seeking treatment when her kids were symptomatic too.
Of course the anti-vaccine believers probably won't watch the video because they can't handle the truth so we're probably preaching to the choir on the matter.
crawdad
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new study recently published, its a survey that aims to illustrate differences with general health outcomes and contracted diseases between vaccinated, partially vaccinated and unvaccinated children. i thought it was an objective look at the effects of vaccines and not a study in vaccine effectiveness directly which is typically the source of debate.
http://www.cmsri.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/MawsonStudyHealthOutcomes5.8.2017.pdf
http://www.cmsri.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/MawsonStudyHealthOutcomes5.8.2017.pdf
Abysmal Vapor
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From what i've heard ,the people that dont trust vaccines around here,are also also believing one theories how AIDS was introduced to the HUMAN gene. Be not quick to trust of anything just because a TV guy makes fun of it.. There are always two sides of the coin. Vaccines might be the way,but do you trust the big pharma which is producing them ? I've heard that in some countries with overpopulation they add a sterilizing agent and immune weakening agents to those vaccines..You might think this is a hoax,but pharma is not just science ,it is business which depends on getting you hooked to their shit. It is very cool to put exactly that shit in the product that is in some countries illegal to refuse..
In 2001, The Royal Society of London's conference proceedings, which sought to determine the initial cause of AIDS and the origin of HIV, were published for the world to behold. The most highly respected scientists and academicians debated the possibility that HIV-1, the most widespread and deadly human AIDS virus, evolved from accidental vaccine contaminations and subsequent transmissions to mostly African villagers. The oral polio vaccine (OPV) received the focus of interest here since that vaccine was partially derived from growing live polio viruses in monkey kidney cells that have historically proven to be contaminated with cancer viruses such as SV40 -- the 40th monkey virus ever discovered. This virus, like HIV-1, is currently linked by medical scientists to widespread human cancers. By the end of the symposium, the esteemed delegates concluded HIV's origin, and AIDS, was not likely to have come from polio vaccine transmissions as chimpanzees were not proven to have been used during the manufacture of this vaccine
.., http://www.originofaids.com/
In 2001, The Royal Society of London's conference proceedings, which sought to determine the initial cause of AIDS and the origin of HIV, were published for the world to behold. The most highly respected scientists and academicians debated the possibility that HIV-1, the most widespread and deadly human AIDS virus, evolved from accidental vaccine contaminations and subsequent transmissions to mostly African villagers. The oral polio vaccine (OPV) received the focus of interest here since that vaccine was partially derived from growing live polio viruses in monkey kidney cells that have historically proven to be contaminated with cancer viruses such as SV40 -- the 40th monkey virus ever discovered. This virus, like HIV-1, is currently linked by medical scientists to widespread human cancers. By the end of the symposium, the esteemed delegates concluded HIV's origin, and AIDS, was not likely to have come from polio vaccine transmissions as chimpanzees were not proven to have been used during the manufacture of this vaccine
.., http://www.originofaids.com/
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