Jeb Bush Use to Smoke Marijuana and Sell Hash at Boarding School

[Gunky]

Jeb Bush is a total hypocrite. Today he went to Detroit to launch his campaign theme of fixing income inequality and failure of the middle class to share some of the rewards of economic growth. Never mind that he is part of the very class of people who benefit from our skewed system of rewards and a big advocate of lowering taxes on the rich, this is a guy who opposed the automotive bailout! Now he goes to Detroit to laud the comeback? Dirty shamming dog.

 

[lwien]

Jeb Bush is a total hypocrite.

Can you name a politician who isn't or who has never been?

 

[Gunky]

They all partake of the hypocrisy I suppose but Bush is unusual in that every thing he says is a fooking scam. Total hypocrisy. His family had a huge part in putting us in this mess and now he comes along to lead us out of it, now that the worst of his brother's damage has been somewhat repaired? Yeah right.

 

[Chill Dude]

There is a really good reason for this. Sanders IS a socialist. He admits it readily and runs on that platform.

You are correct, Bernie is an independent and often refers to himself as a socialist. However, he does caucus with the Dems. My point is that if he were running, the GOP candidates would relentlessly refer to him as a socialist and dismiss him as a far left whack job. As you are aware, that term is misunderstood by a large percentage of the electorate and he would never get any traction from the independents who tend to be moderates. The fact of the matter is that some of our current programs certainly have elements of socialism. For instance social security, Medicaid, food stamps are all examples of socialism within a capitalistic system.

If Walker were elected i'd move out of the country LOL..

 

[t-dub]

If Walker were elected i'd move out of the country LOL..

Don't let your mouth write any checks your ass can't cash . . .

 

[DabbedOut33]

All I know is I am sick of both the Clinton and Bush families. Haven't we had enough? Unfortunately I doubt the current system is capable of producing anything much better. Count me a cynic I guess.

You and the rest of us...Since Ron Paul wasn't nominated in 2012 my faith in the political process has shriveled like a raisin in the sun. His son, Rand Paul, called Jeb Bush a "hypocrite" because of Bush's exposure as a once marijuana user, but aren't all politicians hypocrites?

 

[cybrguy]

If Walker were elected i'd move out of the country LOL..

Yeah, I get that. And while I said I would WANT to leave if America was stupid enough to reelect GWB, I knew better than to think that it couldn't happen. I was incredibly disappointed, but I still love my country and want to make it better. I can only do that in a micro way, but I do what I can. But I won't let those assholes chase me out of MY country. Where could I go that was better?

Added: If we could only get people to stop voting against their own interests...

 

[Chill Dude]

Don't let your mouth write any checks your ass can't cash . . .

You're right, I wouldn't move out of the country, but I'd just be pissed off for about 4 years.

 

[Magic9]

 

[olivianewtonjohn]

Hilary vs Bush aka "moderate" republican vs republican. Great really excited for 2016

 

[t-dub]

"This is the party that used to like to say that a rising tide lifts all boats, which is easy to say when you're on the yacht."

I hate this kind of class warfare. Like if you are doing well, like Bill is, your doing something wrong. While I completely understand this "sentiment" history proves the opposite. You can not legislate an economy into, or out of, existence. People have needs and must have ways to satisfy them.

Greed is capitalism without a conscience.

Don't confuse that for what the founders intended.

 

[Silver420Surfer]

@tdub-- With the top 0.1% worth more than the bottom 90%, something is SERIOUSLY fucking wrong. The bottom 90% are all not down here because of bad choices or being lazy or whatever. It's time the bottom 90% needs are thought of. Rich people flip shit over welfare for the people, but fuck do they like the Corporate welfare. Why shouldn't there be class warfare with such disparity like we have?


In Greed we trust, In Revolution we die!!

 

[t-dub]

In Greed we trust, In Revolution we die!!

I prefer enlightened self interest. If you are railing against concentrations of wealth and power I'm sorry to say but MANY people who lived before us have set into motion things we cannot control. What, my friend, are you going to do about it?

 

[grokit]

Give everybody $150k or so and let that shit trickle UP

 

[Silver420Surfer]

@t-dub --- I'm just gonna sit here quietly and be happy for what trickles down and thank the Good lord.
What else can I do?
Shit's already been set in motion a long time ago.

 

[howie105]

I prefer enlightened self interest. If you are railing against concentrations of wealth and power I'm sorry to say but MANY people who lived before us have set into motion things we cannot control. What, my friend, are you going to do about it?

At a certain point it stops being "enlightened self interest" and becomes criminal activity. As to what to do, if enough people are awaken to the facts then I suspect the legal system will start correcting the problems. Once the roaches start getting caught in enough sunlight they will scatter.

 

[cybrguy]

I hate this kind of class warfare. Like if you are doing well, like Bill is, your doing something wrong. While I completely understand this "sentiment" history proves the opposite. You can not legislate an economy into, or out of, existence. People have needs and must have ways to satisfy them.

Without getting into a long discussion about this I will just suggest that this is the argument people make who want to maintain the status quo. No one is saying that you are doing anything wrong by doing well. You are only doing something wrong when after doing well, you pull up the ladders and make it impossible for anyone to follow you into that prosperity. When you refuse to provide a decent minimum wage. When you try to keep decent healthcare for only the rich. When you refuse to share any of your profits with your workers, who, btw, did much of the work that made you successful.

There is nothing wrong with getting or being rich when it isn't done on the back of poor people. But if you want to be admired and appreciated for your success, you can't just keep it to yourself. You have an obligation to drop the ladders and "help your fellow men". That's not socialism. That's Humanity.

 

[Gunky]

If, as many now assume, Jeb becomes the GOP nominee, what's he going to say later on when asked how he is different from Dubya? Is the country really interested in four more years of Dubya?

 

[Chill Dude]

Without getting into a long discussion about this I will just suggest that this is the argument people make who want to maintain the status quo. No one is saying that you are doing anything wrong by doing well. You are only doing something wrong when after doing well, you pull up the ladders and make it impossible for anyone to follow you into that prosperity. When you refuse to provide a decent minimum wage. When you try to keep decent healthcare for only the rich. When you refuse to share any of your profits with your workers, who, btw, did much of the work that made you successful.

There is nothing wrong with getting or being rich when it isn't done on the back of poor people. But if you want to be admired and appreciated for your success, you can't just keep it to yourself. You have an obligation to drop the ladders and "help your fellow men". That's not socialism. That's Humanity.

Great post Cybrguy! That's exactly the way I see it. Nothing further to add...

 

[howie105]

You can not legislate an economy into, or out of, existence. People have needs and must have ways to satisfy them.

You can affect an economy in many ways look at the guys at the Federal Reserve, WTO and IMF. If you could not then they would not exist.

 

[t-dub]

Greed is capitalism without a conscience.

 

[CarolKing]

The blue collar working class in the United States is who's paying the most taxes. Years ago the rich paid more of their share than they do now thanks to the beloved Republicans.

It's going to be an interesting election season with both parties running for president. I hope the Democrats get somebody in the race worth voting for. I really am tired of the Clinton's and the Bushes too. Get some new blood in the competition. Possibly a 3rd party with a candidate that's not a whacko.

If they do too well early on it's really hard for them to keep the momentum. Its all in the timing making sure something bad doesn't come out before the election. It's at the point now that it seems like America is always in campaign mode, waiting for the next election.

 

[Snappo]

The blue collar working class in the United States is who's paying the most taxes. Years ago the rich paid more of their share than they do now thanks to the beloved Republicans.

It's going to be an interesting election season with both parties running for president. I hope the Democrats get somebody in the race worth voting for. I really am tired of the Clinton's and the Bushes too. Get some new blood in the competition. Possibly a 3rd party with a candidate that's not a whacko.

If they do too well early on it's really hard for them to keep the momentum. Its all in the timing making sure something bad doesn't come out before the election. It's at the point now that it seems like America is always in campaign mode, waiting for the next election.

Prediction: A dark horse candidate will arrive on the scene at the eleventh hour and take the country by storm!

 

[Gunky]

I am ok with Clinton. She is actually the (presumptive) candidate most experienced in federal government and international relations out there. It's important to know how to play the game. She has already made a lot of the mistakes pols make and has had quite a few of the sharp corners rubbed off. I think she is definitely a better candidate today than she was 6 years ago before her stint as Secretary of State. I suspect she would make mincemeat out of any of the possible Republican candidates. Next to her Scott Walker comes off as a country bumpkin, a lightweight with no experience in the federal government at all and no knowledge of international relations. He's the union-busting candidate, the guy who managed to cut off political funding of his opponents by unions, the compliant dumbbell selected by energy oligarchs. And if between Clinton and Bush, bring it on! Which era would you rather return to?

And by the way, don't kid yourself - it makes a huge difference who gets elected. If Bush, we go for lower taxes on the wealthy, deregulated Wall Street and polluters... you know the drill. Three years after the election the economy goes into recession. These guys have a track record. Don't ignore it!

 

[Snappo]

I am ok with Clinton. She is actually the (presumptive) candidate most experienced in federal government and international relations out there. It's important to know how to play the game. She has already made a lot of the mistakes pols make and has had quite a few of the sharp corners rubbed off. I think she is definitely a better candidate today than she was 6 years ago before her stint as Secretary of State. I suspect she would make mincemeat out of any of the possible Republican candidates. Next to her Scott Walker comes off as a country bumpkin, a lightweight with no experience in the federal government at all and no knowledge of international relations. He's the union-busting candidate, the guy who managed to cut off political funding of his opponents by unions, the compliant dumbbell selected by energy oligarchs. And if between Clinton and Bush, bring it on! Which era would you rather return to?

Hillary scares the hell out of me ...to me, she comes off as a bizarre screeching meemee(sp?) - raises her eyebrows too often and protesteth too much in defense of foreign policy indecisions and public faux pas (e.g., "What difference does it make?!!!)! I just don't know exactly what character attributes and political savvy to hitch my wagon to, but Hillary seems to me to be a wild bucking bronco with nuts tied too tight! JMO!