ISO Question

[Stu]

Do you use a coffee filter when pouring into the pyrex? I always filter first as this catches a lot of crap you don't want to scrape up with your yield.

 

[stroh]

yeah definitely filter all the solids out of your alcohol mixture before evaping. If you still feel like residual alcohol is trapped in your qwiso, oven purge it for 5-15 minutes depending on batch size at around 170-190F, any traces of moisture/alcohol should be evaped by this.

 

[2clicker]

no i have not filtered it in the past, but sure will be doing so from now on. i dont do these reclaims very often. mostly because they are so small. normally i just scrape the inside of the glass out to collect the want hash. i usually get around .5-.7g of wand hash when i use the scrape method. stuff vapes forever. but there is always a layer of oil still left on the inside of the glass. that is what im after. that and whatever i can get out of my grinder and screens.

would i be better off not scraping at all and just using ISO to get it all? and then filter it?

thanks for the help everyone!

 

[Stu]

I don't scrape anymore as for me it's just easier to let the stuff clean itself with an ISO soak. Then when my ISO is the color of a fine brandy, I pour through a coffee filter into pyrex and evap/scrape.

 

[2clicker]

I don't scrape anymore as for me it's just easier to let the stuff clean itself with an ISO soak. Then when my ISO is the color of a fine brandy, I pour through a coffee filter into pyrex and evap/scrape.

perfect. thanks!

 

[2clicker]

oven purge it for 5-15 minutes depending on batch size at around 170-190F, any traces of moisture/alcohol should be evaped by this.

would a hot water bath work as well?

and i should steer clear of using ISO in whip tubing to reclaim right? i remember someone posted a trick where they pulled a screw through the tubing to scrape the residuals off. i tried this, but was not very successful.

also, for those who are doing 20 sec ISO washes... what kind of jar are you using? or more specifically what kind lid are you using on your jars? everything i can find has plastic or cheap metal lids with different kinds of "seals" on them. i would assume you would want a SS lid no...? would you not be concerned with the material of the seal or lid contaminating the results?

 

[smokum]

I use a standard mason jar, but I don't put the lid on for the 20 second wash as I don't shake the shit out of it. I prefer to agitate (or rather 'swish' it is a better description) for 20 seconds myself.

 

[MarcellusWiley]

I use a standard mason jar, but I don't put the lid on for the 20 second wash as I don't shake the shit out of it. I prefer to agitate (or rather 'swish' it is a better description) for 20 seconds myself.

when I used to do qwiso this is what worked best for me as well.

mason jar with no cap is fine, just swirl it around you dont want that much plant matter.

 

[2clicker]

oh ok. i was under the impression that it was best to really give it a shake. what about stirring it for 20 secs?

 

[stroh]

for evaping qwiso, i always hot water bath, and then follow up with an oven purge if i really wanna make sure everything has evaped. it also seems to result in a slightly more stable oil. i dont think you should be worried about the lid of your jar, as long as its not soaking on it for longer than the wash time. stirring should be fine, like others, i usually agitate rather than shake vigorously.

 

[2clicker]

i evaped it in a water bath today. i think the pyrex may have gotten a bit too warm because there was one small spot where the oil was thinner... that it turned white. not sure whats up with that. the rest of it however turned out great. nice dark oil. very viscous and sticky stuff. also very potent!

is there a way to harden it up for easier handling? fridge or freezer? will that even help?

 

[wthanna]

i evaped it in a water bath today. i think the pyrex may have gotten a bit too warm because there was one small spot where the oil was thinner... that it turned white. not sure whats up with that. the rest of it however turned out great. nice dark oil. very viscous and sticky stuff. also very potent!

is there a way to harden it up for easier handling? fridge or freezer? will that even help?

That is the small amount of water in the ISO that will evaporate off last. The purer (as in higher percentage alcohol... 70%, 91%, 99%, etc) the ISO the less of that you will see happening.

edited to make a little more clear!

 

[2clicker]

i evaped it in a water bath today. i think the pyrex may have gotten a bit too warm because there was one small spot where the oil was thinner... that it turned white. not sure whats up with that. the rest of it however turned out great. nice dark oil. very viscous and sticky stuff. also very potent!

is there a way to harden it up for easier handling? fridge or freezer? will that even help?

That is the small amount of water in the ISO that will evaporate off last. The purer (as in higher percentage alcohol... 70%, 91%, 99%, etc) the ISO the less of that you will see happening.

edited to make a little more clear!

the white part is the water? or the water is the reason for its viscosity?

 

[sessnet]

The white part is water.

 

[2clicker]

so i should have let it continue to evap? after i saw the white stuff i took it off the heat.

 

[sessnet]

Yes it still needs to evaporate.

The last batch I did with 91% iso, I just pointed a fan at it for several hours (overlooked by someone else), and it all evaporated.

I've poured it out before (if it separated), which helps get it out faster.

Also - I've dabbed/absorbed out the water with a tissue paper, to make it faster, if it is that separate too.

 

[weedemon]

yep i've spilled water in my oil before when purging! was able to dab out most of it with paper towel without losing much oil too!

once it's mostly gone, I am a fan of putting a cake over over it (mesh screen that will keep hair, bugs, and larger pits of dust out of it) and put a fan over it. blowing out a window.

or if you are nearly there I have also hot water bath stove top purged it before too. this speeds it up!

I much prefer butane over iso these days! but I will soon begin working with ethanol too. found a source for lab grade ethanol ie no bittering agents etc! I asked a pharmacist to get it for me.

 

[wthanna]

sessnet beat me to it. It will evaporate. The alcohol just evaporates at a much faster rate leaving a little water behind. I personally would just let it evaporate if you don't want to risk losing good stuff trying to pour it off.

 

[2clicker]

the time the white started to show was when it all looked evaped already. looked like it was done and just getting too hot.

here is a pic. i have circled the white spots. as you can see they are small, but i just wasnt sure about them. if its just water then im not too worried about it. other than that how does this look?

 

[sessnet]

Looks super, if you send some to me I can let you know how it is

Seriously, last batch I made was a lot lighter, because that was the first time I used no heat. Yours is a little bit browner than it should be, probably because of the heat.

The part on the top right that looks super good!

What are you going to try it with?

 

[2clicker]

What are you going to try it with?

what do you mean?

i used my hakko through my mobius. mixed what i could with some flowers and blast off.

im having a hard time handling this stuff. most of it is still in the pyrex dish with a lid. its sooo it sticks to everything it touches. im not sure how to handle and store it except to just leave it in the dish until i want some and use my 7th floor picks to dab it out and into my bowl.

 

[sessnet]

Not sure of the consistency...

If it's like Jolly Rancher consistency - and you heat it up a little- you can scrape it all together.

If it's like Jolly Rancher consistency - If you cool it off - you may be able to scrape/crack it off, but shards will fly everywhere.

If it's an oily consistency- just scrape it all together with a blade. The pyrex dish you used is the best for this, because there are more level surfaces to scrape.

Whatever you can't get off, and what I did, is dilute it a bit with ISO, then soak it up with cotton or qtip, then you can use Vitolos trick to vape the cotton. Or collect the diluted ISO/OIL and keep in another container for next time or something.

 

[2clicker]

the consistency is that of super glue... or more like honey or maple syrup. very sticky. i scrape it with a razor and its still kinda runny (like honey) so then where do i go with it? its sticks to everything it touches so no matter where it goes its going to be messy. if it touches your fingers/hand you might as well just rub it into your skin.

i mixed with some wand hash i still had left over. dabbed it with 7th floor pick and then took that to some crumbs of WH. then took my fingers and sandwiched the dab between the crumbs and smashed it flat. then tossed directly on top of some RazMatazz in my DBV wand. after the first hit everything is nice and hot and then the smashed concentrate can be stirred up with the herb and spread out. then it RIPS!

i have no idea how i would transport any of this stuff. i can imagine it would be a total PITA to load it into a revolution or omicron. however after filtering it twice through coffee filters, the taste is much less "chemy" than i remember my results from previous attempts.

 

[sessnet]

Yeah! I made that once, but just a little ball. I could stretch it to as long as I wanted, just tiny grain would stretch out like melted mozzarella.

That should be handled better as frozen as possible - sort of like super soft bubblegum. If it gets even a little warm, it sticks.

Try to freeze it but also keep it from condensation as best as possible.

You think you are f*cked because it's so god dang messy - and impossible to handle, but in fact you are super lucky!

That will last you a really long time I bet!

What did you use to make it? Fresh, ABV etc?

 

[2clicker]

What did you use to make it? Fresh, ABV etc?

it was from soaking screens, a grinder soak, and about 1.5 condensed DBV wands.

i could probably get this much about every month or so. makes me wish i had a persei or omicron.