Iso hash oil questions

[BL4sT]

I made my second run yesterday, with a 30 sec shake.. the same bud still frozen , and it turned out as a dark green/black oil.. and pale green after the purge! same great taste, same great high. every batch i do turns out different, but always good!

 

[weedemon]

how much did you get on your 2nd run of the 8 g batch?

your budder looks awesome and so does the first run oil! I think i need to do this

 

[VWFringe]

Hashbean told me budder, or stabilized oil, is just heated and whipped, so you're out-gassing parts of the oil to condense it basically, and stabilize it into a solid more or less. I notice it does not work on recovered THC oil.

but wax i guess is what i'm curious about - I just got some Chubbs Wax (Indica) and it's like broken crayon. i think it's purged with a gas, like oxygen or something...? I don't know that it's that much more potent than any other concentrate, but it's kind of novel at least

maybe essentially they're close, as one uses heat to remove extraneous (I hope) components and the other uses a gas to carry them away - maybe what i heard it called was gas purging...? maybe i got that confused with purging

can't get over how good that stuff looks - so same potency, better taste?

 

[stroh]

i dont think the potency is ever really effected by changing the oil into budder or wax, it depends largely on the flowers used to create the oil, and whether or not you purge it, as purging decarboxylizes the oil and transforms the relatively inactive THCA into that beautiful delta 9 tetrahydracannibinol we all know and love.

 

[Tstat]

I just made some, and I am concerned about the color! It's ORANGE. I mean really orange.

I made it about 3 hour ago and it's sitting in the sun on my deck. I used a full canning jar of frozen high quality trim. I used 91% ISO which had been in the freezer for a few days. I had it all in the jar longer than 30 seconds, because I had to add more ISO. The freezer ISO didn't cover it all. So it was shaken for 30 seconds, but in the jar for a minute or more. I then poured it through a coffee filter and a stainless screen.

Just looks weird this time!

 

[weedemon]

damn dude, yeah that does look strange. what was the strain?

 

[Tstat]

It was...let's see...
White Widow
SLH
A lot of Cheese

It was all VERY good trim and frozen for like a week. Other than the longer soak/shake, nothing different. The stuff i made before looked dark brown and gross. Got you blinded, but tasted like shit. I was expecting a more "yellow" look, but this shit is orange. Maybe cause it's out in the sun?

I plan to prepare it using the methods here- putting it in the freezer, scraping and heating. It might look different in the end.

 

[wthanna]

Trichomes, as they mature, turn from clear to clowdy then amber. It may be that some of your herb was harvested later rather than sooner, giving it that darker color.

 

[Tstat]

Hmmm, now that makes sense! Almost all of it is evaporated now, and it got a darker color. I guess I will heat it again tomorrow and then freeze it. Is that the general idea as to how it's done right?

 

[stroh]

that color is definitely unique, never really encountered a batch so orange before. i dont think its a bad thing though, i would attribute it to the strains used and the mutt run. post another pic afters its evaped and all scraped up!

 

[Tstat]

I will post a picture tomorrow. Now that it is evaporated, it doesn't look that orange...

 

[BL4sT]

Wow, interesting! Can't wait to see the final result

 

[VWFringe]

i had some "turn orange" on me while sitting in the sun, but it was from ABV, and it had particles of ABV that were just acting like "Sun Tea," so if you noticed it changing to a darker orange (not just from evap) then some particles may have been reacting to the sun, like my tea

mine was red by the second day

I read after that that direct sunlight degrades THC, so you prolly want to do something different than that

I evap now in a pyrex cup in a low-boiling pan of water with a small fan pointed at the far edge, and all of my relatives out of the house.

 

[Tstat]

Yea, I think the sun had something to do with it. Ok, so I took the plate and heated at 225 for about 10-15 minutes. I let it cool down and stuck it in the freezer for 2 hours. It was easy to scrape while it was frozen, but I don't think it's gonna form into a ball, or have that "budder" consistency.

I just ran a tiny bit through the Essential Vape H20 and it is very potent. It tastes a little different as well. I don't know if you can tell from the photos, but it sparkled a lot!

So, there you have it. I think I would like to make some of that BHO LOOKING stuff next. I do NOT want use BHO, however. Is there a good recipe for using ISO to make that golden, gooey looking stuff?

 

[stroh]

Is there a good recipe for using ISO to make that golden, gooey looking stuff?

nice looking qwiso hash, this was the type of consistency i used to make before i figured out i could make a more oily product from ISO.

there is no recipe per say(the standard QWISO process found on many websites will produce oil if done right), everyone has their own little preferences to their technique. I find making good oil comes with experience and in order to get a really golden end product, the main things to try and reduce are the chlorophyll/tannins/plantmatter/other contaminants. I believe a shake time of no longer than 30 seconds is optimal for reducing the chlorophyll/etc. intake, as well as straining the alcohol through a coffee filter as quickly as possible. Also possibly use less alcohol next time, while many recommend completely submerging your material, i like to use just enough that i know it will cover all the buds when i shake it, but not enough to drown the little guys. You may also want to consider soaking your trim/nugs in water (very gently so as not to knock off too many trichomes) which will absorb a lot of the chlorophyll, but not the THC. let your material dry and then proceed through your steps as normal.

also i find the best oil comes from buds, though if your budget is anything like mine, this isn't something you can do often, and i cannot grow so no trimmings for me. ahh i've been itching to make a batch for so long i just am not financially secure enough at the moment to purchase a quarter just to get maybe .5s worth of oil

 

[BL4sT]

It looks like my first results done with ABV And it sparks too... ! I didn't trust that .. hahah

And my last time was the first I got something golden like that... the thing I did different, it was the rinse.. 5-10 sec with frozen buds/iso99% , and do not put the buds in the filter.. so the liquid should be still transparent, and no green .. was sceptic but, good results. lol but not the yield

 

[weedemon]

I did a QWISO run on 20 g of "shake" from a very dry crispy bag of Master Kush I just got. killer green, but i didn't want to vape the little stuff even though it's almost as good as the rest i know. all of it was frosted. will report back with the yield after it's done in the freezer

i froze the iso and the green in the freezer then did a 30s run on it. strain and hot water bath till dry. I used a hair dryer before going into the oven to ensure the oil wasn't going to evap anymore.

then i put it in the oven @ 150-200F for 20 min. this dried it off completely and when i checked on it i saw one of the deeper pool bubbling. I put it in an ice bath to cool the pan quickly and covered it in saran wrap and put it in the freezer for a 2 hour wait. (this is the stage im at right now)

came out a maroon/chocolate colour in the pan. smells fantastic and i'm pumped to try it out. too bad i don't have an oil rig, but ill do some blades i think.

*edit,

OK i bought an eclipse on the last weekend, and now i have something for my oils!

also i got 1.3 g on the first wash of 20 g of sugar trim and 0.8 on the yield on the 2nd wash.

11% return. not bad i guess. the oil itself is pretty nice though i must say. a heck of a lot thicker than the oil i used to buy back in the day, and nicer tasting too!

 

[stroh]

I did a QWISO run on 20 g of "shake" from a very dry crispy bag of Master Kush I just got. killer green, but i didn't want to vape the little stuff even though it's almost as good as the rest i know. all of it was frosted. will report back with the yield after it's done in the freezer

i froze the iso and the green in the freezer then did a 30s run on it. strain and hot water bath till dry. I used a hair dryer before going into the oven to ensure the oil wasn't going to evap anymore.

then i put it in the oven @ 150-200F for 20 min. this dried it off completely and when i checked on it i saw one of the deeper pool bubbling. I put it in an ice bath to cool the pan quickly and covered it in saran wrap and put it in the freezer for a 2 hour wait. (this is the stage im at right now)

came out a maroon/chocolate colour in the pan. smells fantastic and i'm pumped to try it out. too bad i don't have an oil rig, but ill do some blades i think.

you can use a very small amount of oil in your launch box, it vapes it very effectively, just make sure you have a nice padding of flowers for the oil to soak into once it melts. i did a reclaim run that turned to wax yesterday and have been placing a small piece on my trenches with great results.

 

[Learner]

so i have a question about titanium plate/pad bongs and concentrates. when using these apparatuses, are the concentrates combusting or vaporizing or something else entirely?

Quoting the OP

Using hot knives or a nail with oil is vaporizing?

 

[reece]

Is there a good recipe for using ISO to make that golden, gooey looking stuff?

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If you want it gooey, I think you could just let it thaw a bit before scraping.

 

[Tstat]

Those are the directions I used. Stuff was great, but it was almost like powder. And, as you mention, can be sprinkled. Is that from the freezing? I'd like some that looks like BHO- kinda gooey, but thicker than oil...

I just picked up a big jar of 91% today and put it in the freezer

 

[stroh]

Those are the directions I used. Stuff was great, but it was almost like powder. And, as you mention, can be sprinkled. Is that from the freezing? I'd like some that looks like BHO- kinda gooey, but thicker than oil...

I just picked up a big jar of 91% today and put it in the freezer

did you purge your oil at all in the oven? i find that letting it evaporate by itself leaves one with a more "kiefy" texture, as opposed to evaporating with heat, which gives it a more oily consistency.

so i have a question about titanium plate/pad bongs and concentrates. when using these apparatuses, are the concentrates combusting or vaporizing or something else entirely?

technically they are vaporizing the concentrate, though i feel that a small part is probably combusted as well

 

[weedemon]

@ stroh, oil in my mflb eh? I was the kid in class who always used too much white paste glue. I think i'd probably end up with oil in my screen.

thanks for the tip though man, it's good to know if i have to i can go tat route.

 

[stroh]

i wouldn't do it daily, as it will definitely accumulate eventually, though cleaning it with ISO seems to work fine. i have a tiny spot on my screen from too big of a dab, but i don't notice any difference in the "fullness" of my draws, so i am not too worried.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

What is the possible loss in efficiency/quality if you use wet frozen material straight with cold iso ? I do not need exact numbers.. I just wanna know if it is going to extract some nasty tasting shit out of green bud and if it is going to be a huge waste of bud