Is there a Pen that can hit me as hard as a Dab?

[FlyingLow]

Are there any pens that would make me retire from dabbing?

I am seeking a real lung buster, what pens should I consider?
This is primarily for BHO and wax.

I have used a cheapo $30 pen (the kind with a ceramic nail inside a dome) for the last year, but it just does not do it for me...

 

[z9]

Check out the Persei

Edit: and the Thermovape

 

[FlyingLow]

Seems like the tits, are there any others worth consideration or should I quit the search and just pull the trigger?

 

[paytonpenn]

Have you tried your Hammer for concentrates?

 

[FlyingLow]

I haven't yet.
I don't typically like using any of my devices for both flower and concentrate, and have been reluctant to try it for fear of tainting the taste.

 

[paytonpenn]

Cleaning the inside is rather easy and it can be entirely cleaned. After cleaning I don't find the taste to be tainted.

 

[2clicker]

get yourself an RDA, mech mod, battery and make your own coils. you can really tailor it to your needs and it costs pennies to rebuild instead of $20 a pop. when tuned specifically it will EASILY serve you up with the monster dab you are after.

80% of my canna use is oil and i have never owned a nail and torch. there are options available to eliminate a traditional dabbing setup completely.

 

[Yoosh]

There's a Thermovape Cera EO being sold in the classifieds that will certainly fit the bill.

I hear it's like quack.



note to self: give up waterfowl humor, it ruffles too many feathers

 

[Caligula]

Someone should mention Thermovape isn't going to be a company anymore and support for the products will cease to exist.

BTW only portable I've used that can be compared to a dab is the Persei with the Hercules cart. Issue for a lot of people with that setup, however, is that you're looking at a $250 investment unless you find it used. Good news is that I see them for sale by members here all the time.

OH, and there's this new hawtness. @mvapes seems to be liking it quite a bit however the downside is that it eats though batteries like no other.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-yocan-thor-portable-enail.15525/

 

[215z]

Hercules or RDA

 

[natural farmer]

Lotus!!!!!!!

 

[biohacker]

I'm looking for the same thing as i've recently discovered concentrates (waxes, shatters, budders)...i'm thinking Persei or Omicron?

 

[215z]

Power is an issue. The Youcan Thor is limited to the 15W the 18350 battery can deliver. The Hercules pulls 22 or 28W depending on model. RDA's are limited by 18650 cells and your build - 50W is easy. There are regulated dual cell devices that do 100W to 150W. The Ego platform (the most popular wax pens) are limited to 9W. The typical e-nail uses a 100W heating coil.

I need water filtration north of 30W.

@biohacker the easy plug and play answer is Persei + Hercules.

 

[Caligula]

Dude you're comparing power output on products that use completely different heater technologies. That is in no way an apples to apples comparison. Not to mention you are leaving out tons of other variables not least of which is secondary power regulation either via electronics or manual manipulation of the power button.

 

[215z]

That is true. I'm too vaked to remember what my point was. But there is no heater technology that's going to give a G Pen user monster dabs.

 

[2clicker]

@biohacker the easy plug and play answer is Persei + Hercules.

agreed although i have never used a herc.

one thing to keep in mind is that using manufactured devices like rev/darts etc... is that while they work well... when they crap out they need to be repaired or replaced. of which for many means shipping it to the MFG and waiting for it to come back. as well as having to pay for shipping and the repair/replacement. going the RDA route means that replacement materials are READILY available either online or locally. so basically there is little to no down time and it is also more affordable.

both are options to look into IMO.

 

[DrRishi]

I have just got a Dabbler 3 in 1 and a Dabbler tube. With the correct voltage you can get a big hit off these devices. I have only had it a few days but last night I put my Ti nail and bong back in the cupboard.

 

[Caligula]

agreed although i have never used a herc.

one thing to keep in mind is that using manufactured devices like rev/darts etc... is that while they work well... when they crap out they need to be repaired or replaced. of which for many means shipping it to the MFG and waiting for it to come back. as well as having to pay for shipping and the repair/replacement. going the RDA route means that replacement materials are READILY available either online or locally. so basically there is little to no down time and it is also more affordable.

both are options to look into IMO.

I've had my Hercules over a year and it's never broken or has needed replacement. It's also completely user serviceable. Oh and the cart has a year warranty. How many carts come with a fucking warranty?

 

[2clicker]

I've had my Hercules over a year and it's never broken or has needed replacement. It's also completely user serviceable. Oh and the cart has a year warranty. How many carts come with a fucking warranty?

inpressive. you havent needed to replace any coils ($12) or the heating element ($20)?

 

[215z]

@2clicker you of all people will be very impressed with the Hercules. I imagine most Herc users can't appreciate the subtle design elements that you will recognize, given your quest to improvise the handheld nail.
You will not need to replace any components unless you lose them while cleaning. The ability to break this thing down for cleaning/reclaiming puts the Thermovape components to shame.

Load-as-you-go is more your style, but if you ever wanted a giant cartomizer for errl, you should take a look at this. This is a giant cartomizer not a better RDA (though the manufacturer is supposedly working on one).

You might find that one of your telescoping mods can accommodate dual 18350 to power it @ 7.4V inexpensively.

 

[Caligula]

inpressive. you havent needed to replace any coils ($12) or the heating element ($20)?

I'm still using the stock heating element. It's a ceramic rod and doesn't really take much wear and tear. As the the oil coils, I changed them once. Reason was that UP Tech introduced grade 2 titanium coils and I wanted to upgrade to that to see how it was over the stainless.

 

[Puffers]

Do they make the herc in a 510 thread? I know theres adapters but...

 

[2clicker]

Do they make the herc in a 510 thread? I know theres adapters but...

then there is always this.

I'm still using the stock heating element. It's a ceramic rod and doesn't really take much wear and tear. As the the oil coils, I changed them once. Reason was that UP Tech introduced grade 2 titanium coils and I wanted to upgrade to that to see how it was over the stainless.

yeah i can see the element lasting a long time. those hakko style elements are great. just didnt know if the "coil" degraded or burned out.

 

[215z]

@2clicker what Hercules users call a coil is what we call a wick. It used to be a cylinder of stainless steel wool, now it is titanium wool. it tastes clean when wet, the taste is acceptable when dry, can be torch clean, and lasts indefinitely.

just don't leave it in the center console of a rental car when returning it to Hertz.

 

[Caligula]

I just iso soak my oil coils every quarter of an ounce or so. They seem to last forever. FWIW the only time I've killed a coil was by mishandling it (unraveled because I tried to pull it out while it was cold.. lol glued in there) and by over torching a Ti coil. Hence why I prefer just to iso soak.

As for 510 native Hercules, I don't think that's an option. Of course there are those adapters.