Roth
Pining for the Mountains
Grats, there really is a big difference, isn't there! When people say they've used concentrates, but rely on sandwiching or hemp fiber, they haven't truly experienced what concentrates have to offer!
Is dabbing worth it?
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Grats, there really is a big difference, isn't there! When people say they've used concentrates, but rely on sandwiching or hemp fiber, they haven't truly experienced what concentrates have to offer!
anda1anda2
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I never thought I would give up flower for concentrates, but after buying a rosin press, I haven’t vaped any flower in a few weeks. We’ll see if that continues for the long term, but dabbing has finally clicked for me with rosin.
I am mostly neutral on BHO and CO2 oil, but rosin is giving me the effects I am looking for and I think the flavor is more nuanced.
I am mostly neutral on BHO and CO2 oil, but rosin is giving me the effects I am looking for and I think the flavor is more nuanced.
Morty
Well-Known Member
How much you dudes loadin' ?
I know I'm in the minority here, but I 
concentrate sandwiches! Makes my stash last longer too. I just use it as a bowl topper like you would with kief. It doesn't take a lot & gives me superior effects than with both used separately. Sometimes there's not a right or a wrong way, but just a way that suites you best.Check you guys & gals later. Going to go try a Dr. Dabber Switch my plug just bought. I hear it's an excellent burn pipe when used with flower!
How much you dudes loadin' ?
Check you guys & gals later. Going to go try a Dr. Dabber Switch my plug just bought. I hear it's an excellent burn pipe when used with flower!
What vape are you rocking these days @Morty ?
I like sandwiches too, I just feel like the spongy flower makes them hard to finish the oil. But that's how I kinda feel about flower in general lately, so I press everything into rosin. Even though you lose a bit making concentrate, I feel I'm more likely to truly finish a dab than I would finish a flower bowl so it balances itself out. Like you say, no best way
Morty
Well-Known Member
Wazzup! Using an Nonavong again right now & dabbing over at my buddy's place with his gear. Was getting some pretty decent fire from our west from my plugs (super crystally!), but now has dropped off the last couple weeks to mids.What vape are you rocking these days @Morty ?
I like sandwiches too, I just feel like the spongy flower makes them hard to finish the oil. But that's how I kinda feel about flower in general lately, so I press everything into rosin. Even though you lose a bit making concentrate, I feel I'm more likely to truly finish a dab than I would finish a flower bowl so it balances itself out. Like you say, no best way
And just to be clear on my comment above, I'm talking mainly BHO & homemade rosin. Diamonds, Bubble, top shelf Rosin would be better for the banger. But man, a phat concentrate sandwich out of a high powered vape...what a feeling! Almost edible like. And the high just lasts, and lasts, and lasts.
Totally agree on Rosin being superior & more full spectrum than BHO, but I did a live resin dab a couple months ago that sent me sideways! Been a minute since I was rocked like that. Wowza! Dabbing always has that bigger "whoomph", rush type feeling, but in my limited experience, the high from a nice Sammy (like from the Sup or FP) lasts longer & feels more trippy.
Madri-Gal
Child Of The Revolution
@Morty, it sounds like you are having a great time. I also enjoy a nice concentrate sandwich upon occasion. I very much enjoy dabs from nails and bangers, but a good sammich is not to be overlooked. For me, the variety inherent in different practices, techniques, devices, contraptions, tools and accessories is much to my liking. I don't want to find one best or perfect way to vape, or do dabs. There are too many fun options to forgo anything but one best or right, way. Can't say I have been overly aware of an uneven end to concentrate and flower, but by the end of any bowl I tend to be in a most agreeable frame of mind and would tend to over look that sort of thing. It wouldn't stop me in any way. I also like how sammiches last longer than dabbing with a nail. Is it "better"?, no, but is it amazeballs, well, yes. And I like things that are amazeballs.Wazzup! Using an Nonavong again right now & dabbing over at my buddy's place with his gear. Was getting some pretty decent fire from our west from my plugs (super crystally!), but now has dropped off the last couple weeks to mids.
And just to be clear on my comment above, I'm talking mainly BHO & homemade rosin. Diamonds, Bubble, top shelf Rosin would be better for the banger. But man, a phat concentrate sandwich out of a high powered vape...what a feeling! Almost edible like. And the high just lasts, and lasts, and lasts.
Totally agree on Rosin being superior & more full spectrum than BHO, but I did a live resin dab a couple months ago that sent me sideways! Been a minute since I was rocked like that. Wowza! Dabbing always has that bigger "whoomph", rush type feeling, but in my limited experience, the high from a nice Sammy (like from the Sup or FP) lasts longer & feels more trippy.
Vaporware
Well-Known Member
I’m curious what you guys think of the new Dynacoil. I should have something to say next week when I get mine, but while I’m sure it’s not like a dab it should be better than concentrate pads, hemp fiber/cotton, etc. and if George is right about it even in the hands of the average user, it should have some advantages over a lot of dabbing setups such as a lack of carbonized crap to inhale/clean, no need to continue hitting it forever or waste it, etc.
I’m sure it’s different, but it could still be great. Any beta testers who also dab have thoughts on it?
I guess this is only marginally on-topic, but we are talking about concentrate sandwiches and stuff, so...
I’m sure it’s different, but it could still be great. Any beta testers who also dab have thoughts on it?
I guess this is only marginally on-topic, but we are talking about concentrate sandwiches and stuff, so...
d:\program
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i've been getting way better results with my vapcap than my cheap quartz bangers. ![:\](/i/s/hmm.gif "Hmm :\")
shit either doesn't vaporize or it burns up and makes the nail disgusting. Guess I can't control the temperature well enough
i don't have a good torch. maybe i'll put a banger in the oven
is there a big difference between how high you can get/how smooth hits you can get/efficiency between a good quartz banger+insert+cap with a torch and a SiC halo e-nail?
shit either doesn't vaporize or it burns up and makes the nail disgusting. Guess I can't control the temperature well enoughi don't have a good torch. maybe i'll put a banger in the oven
is there a big difference between how high you can get/how smooth hits you can get/efficiency between a good quartz banger+insert+cap with a torch and a SiC halo e-nail?
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Madri-Gal
Child Of The Revolution
I wish I knew, but sadly I haven't used a Dynacoil. I'm very much hoping you give us details when you get yours. It's very exciting, hearing about new toys. My wish book is getting full !
Moses Baca
Colorado State Reformatory #8755
Thanks, @VaporWare, I'm curious also. I've only been vaping a few months, no experience with concentrates, I've made hash a couple times in the past. (does that count?) The Dynacoil got me thinking and then @Squiby posted a video about the Slug33.
I'm trying to figure it all out but there's a lot to learn. I like my VapCaps because they're simple but I'm interested in learning new things.
I'm trying to figure it all out but there's a lot to learn. I like my VapCaps because they're simple but I'm interested in learning new things.
cpk
Brother of the Leaf
It is well worth your time to try concentrates. I wish I had tried earlier as it is a great clean high. No abv or chance of combustion. I enjoyed it for about 3 weeks straight just by itself and then went back to vaping flower also. I really like the live resin, rosin and shatter. A strange thing is it occasionally gives me auditory hallucinations. I prefer using a paranormal dna 250c with molecule, soon to add drop solo combo. I am having issues with both hands so I avoid the rig. Enjoy!
anda1anda2
Well-Known Member
Just did a dab... totally worth it.
Ramahs
Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
Sandwiching concentrate between herb is something that I will do sometimes when I just want a boost to my flower, and don't want to pull my dab rig out and plug it in.
Though, in my opinion, there is no better way to enjoy concentrates than vaped off a hot nail all at once. Sandwiching just doesn't compare when you are in the mood for dabs.
Though, in my opinion, there is no better way to enjoy concentrates than vaped off a hot nail all at once. Sandwiching just doesn't compare when you are in the mood for dabs.
Madri-Gal
Child Of The Revolution
Agreed, but there is nothing better if you want a concentrate sandwich.
The OP asks if dabbing is worth it, and I'd say yes. I also say concentrates are also worthy in general, and various methods of consumption have merit. Just maybe not so often. I'm always amazed when someone says they use concentrates in edibles. It's not how I would do it, and it kind of hurts my brain, but if someone wants a concentrate cookie and can manage to get one, I can only say I imagine it would be a great cookie and they would enjoy it. Sometimes a topper is nice with flower, and keif and concentrate are both delightful for this. I prefer dabbing, but I prefer lower temperatures for vaping and that isn't ideal with add ins. I enjoy a quartz banger, and a Ti nail, but I don't like torches. I like my pen, but the flavor from the coil isn't the most tasty. For me, the point isn't to find a perfect method but to enjoy the various methods available, while searching for other delightful methods.
I would heartily encourage the OP to try dabs, and to try as many methods of consumption that appeals, and is available to them. If the OP does find they are, or aren't worth it, that would also be interesting to know.
Ramahs
Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
Hmmm. Strange. See, I always thought concentrates are better for making edibles because you can more easily be much more certain about the dosage.
But yeah, I guess my biggest issue with sandwiching is that I have to push the flower into the charring range to get all the concentrate out and into my lungs.
anda1anda2
Well-Known Member
Definitely this, plus it’s a lot quicker to just decarb the concentrate and mix into whatever you are making rather than simmering herb for hours.
Dabs only for me, flowers are a last resort. I can't handle the mucus and irritation I get from vaporizing flower on a regular basis. Overall flavor is better dabbing vs flower, but the effects of flower are not really shared with dabs so I do respect the potency of whole flower meds. On that note, the more clear headed effects from dabbing I find a lot better for my productivity, and edibles are better medicine than flower for my sleep.
Madri-Gal
Child Of The Revolution
I can imagine concentrates would be easy to use for edibles. It just isn't my preference, as I don't prefer edibles. The only concentrate I use any more is rosin, and as I am pressing with a hair iron it takes awhile and is marked for other use. If I had a press it might be different. It's the scarcity that impresses me when concentrates are used in food. Heck, I'd use it as a face mask if I had enough rosin ( maybe not). I'm hoping, and expecting this will change, but I don't want to feel anything after I eat except fed. I keep trying with edibles, but am not there yet.
I'm sure your methods are devine, @Ramahs. It's unfortunate we can't share a bowl, or a cookie, but I am happy to in spirit. My next dab will be dedicated to you.
superdang9000
Flameo Hotman!
I make my edibles with rosin these days and the main reason is flavor. Everything tastes more like what you're actually putting it in, rather than that vegetal cannabis flavor. I don't mind it sometimes but if I want a brownie, I want that sucker to taste chocolatey and delicious, and less like plant matter.
Madri-Gal
Child Of The Revolution
A most excellent point, @superdang9000. I've been doing "water curing" on the bud and ABV to reduce flavor. Concentrates would skip that step, as well as it being easier to control the dosage as @Ramahs pointed out. It's clear a dab press is in my future, but it has to wait a bit.
Chickenhawk
Well-Known Member
I'm not heating the banger up nearly hot enough am I? A friend told me the bowl should turn red. Then I should wait until it's no longer glowing and then drop in the concentrate.
It depends on your torch. 30 seconds is working well for my 25mm banger and blazer big shot torch. Mine never glows red, I usually hit it after 50 seconds cooldown with a bubble cap.