Is bubble hash worth the effort?

[basement farmer]

I have an overage flowers and a set of bags.

I've never done this, look at my flowers and wonder, is this really the best way to use them? Plus it looks like a lot of work.

I tried a small batch of BHO summer before last and wasn't real impressed with the results. So probably won't go back there again.

Maybe a shaker box?

 

[herbivore21]

Depends on how much time you have mate, I would recommend making some full melt dry sift if you have a decent sized space and can get some good big screens (generally need 2 screens, see Bubbleman's channel and others on youtube for tips) and take your time (a hell of a lot of it). The results will be much more than worth it once you get it to fully melt.

However, especially if the material is fresh; giving those bubble bags a workout is a no brainer! You'll get great material with less effort so long as the bags are decent quality in good condition

I envy your position lol

EDIT:

A tip - if your bubble or dry sift doesn't fully melt and you want to hit it now, stick it in the bowl of a convection vape. You'll be glad you did!

If you persist and get your bubble hash or dry sift to fully melt, you can go ahead and dab that on a nail for delicious hits! Be warned that if it does not fully melt and you dab it, you risk combustion and nasty tastes in your mouth and your piece.

 

[basement farmer]

Depends on how much time you have mate, I would recommend making some full melt dry sift if you have a decent sized space and can get some good big screens (generally need 2 screens, see Bubbleman's channel and others on youtube for tips) and take your time (a hell of a lot of it). The results will be much more than worth it once you get it to fully melt.

However, especially if the material is fresh; giving those bubble bags a workout is a no brainer! You'll get great material with less effort so long as the bags are decent quality in good condition

I envy your position lol

EDIT:

A tip - if your bubble or dry sift doesn't fully melt and you want to hit it now, stick it in the bowl of a convection vape. You'll be glad you did!

If you persist and get your bubble hash or dry sift to fully melt, you can go ahead and dab that on a nail for delicious hits! Be warned that if it does not fully melt and you dab it, you risk combustion and nasty tastes in your mouth and your piece.

Thanx for the advice. I read the entire dry ice thread and it looks pretty good, but messy. I couldn't see myself to shaking THC all over my house like that.

It's hard to subject those buds so tenderly cared for to anytning other than direct consumption, but I have too many and there are more on the way.

Maybe I will do bubbles, just so I can say I tried.

 

[amberevil]

Do it. I recommend just having fun and making different micron sized bubble. It will be even more fun to try them out and see which one you like the most, and you might learn something about yourself

 

[howie105]

Its the same old same old, figure out how much bud you need to make it through the next cycle and then play with the rest. I use bubble bags on the excess not so much because they are super efficient but because I like the results. I also will run re-dried plant material through a butane wash because I get a real good price on butane. The end product gets smoke but its not like big on the list like bud or bubble.

 

[Bouldorado]

Good bubble or dry sift is some of the tastiest cannabis extract I've tried. If taste is a priority, then I'd say it's worth your effort. However either method is both more time consuming and inefficient compared to BHO. Whereas as BHO can reliably yield 15-20%, you'll be lucky to get a third of that with [quality] bubble/dry sift.

I don't think you can go wrong with a dry-ice sift (basically add some crushed dry ice to a ~150 micron bubble bag and gently shake) . Sure it takes time to get to the Bubbleman level, but even if you don't get there, you've still considerably refined the product. If you have dry sift that's not full melt you still have a lot of options:

• further refine into full melt (prob need a microscope)
• refine with solvents (butane, ethanol, iso)
• possibly make bubble (don't see why it wouldn't work with keif)
• make edibles
• or just vape it as is

 

[Tweak]

However either method is both more time consuming and inefficient compared to BHO. Whereas as BHO can reliably yield 15-20%, you'll be lucky to get a third of that with [quality] bubble/dry sift.

This is why I quit making bubble. I could tell the material was still sticky and stinky and I wanted the best possible yield.

 

[killick]

@basement farmer did you wind up trying a batch? I found this thread by searching and wondering whether it was worth the effort myself. So many microns! And not all of them work!

 

[basement farmer]

Nope, haven't tried it yet.

I decided that the bud that originally was going to use was too nice for me to practice with, so I'm going to consume those as flowers. I've got some lesser quality stuff that I'll probably get around to using in some form or another soon.

Dry sifting sounds like it might be the way to go. I don't thnk I'll mind a little vegatable matter in the end product.

I'm trying to come up with a way to do it in a contained system so I don't make a mess.

Or I just might do bubble anyway...just so I can say I've done it.

Thanks for all the useful replies everyone.

 

[negan]

I'm thinking about getting a dry sift setup as well. Looking at these on ebay, from Benny (316t guy). Either those or buy just the screens from him and make my own box/frame. The frames look nice though and would save me time. Might see if he can raise the outer frame a bit so you could get optimal height when staking the screens like bubbleman does in the videos. I think I'm going to send him an email now. .

Only issue I think I'll have is that I might not have the quality (at least consistently) to get a decent amount each time. Bubbleman has a video where is is only doing ~10 grams and gets a decent amount in each pile, but he also has access to some of the best stuff on the planet.

Plan to gently sift the buds first, then qwet/qwiso the leftovers to get any remaining. I need to get started while it is still cold here. Going to be tough to sift inside during the spring summer.

 

[puddleglum]

Lately my friends and I have been experimenting with deliberately making "low quality" (i.e. non-melt) bubble hash. Last batch we used the 160 bag. The end result has a greenish tinge from tiny pieces of plant material (experienced hash makers would call this "contaminants"), and it doesn't melt at all, the texture is dry and brittle.

Why would we do this on purpose? you might ask. First of all, it is lazy, less time consuming, and has a higher yield (as compared with meticulously using fine-mesh bags). Second and more important, this green hash is extremely vape-friendly. It has a wonderful flavor and doesn't gum up our vapes. I have heard of people ruining their MFLB screens and so forth by using full-melt. Not me---I love to load up my MFLB with finishing grinder ground bubble hash, or just shove a big chunk into my Solo stem. I really don't think there are any negative health or flavor effects from vaping a small amount of leaf particles mixed in with the good stuff (especially if the plants were tasty to start with). Combusting this kind of hash is kind of harsh, but I don't do that any more.

Hope that is some helpful advice?

 

[Bouldorado]

@puddleglum

were you doing that with trim or flowers? makes sense to run trim, but if the hash is low-quality I'd prob prefer to keep flowers in their raw form.

 

[puddleglum]

Trim! Flowers are too valuable to run.

 

[ChippyMalone]

Lately my friends and I have been experimenting with deliberately making "low quality" (i.e. non-melt) bubble hash. Last batch we used the 160 bag. The end result has a greenish tinge from tiny pieces of plant material (experienced hash makers would call this "contaminants"), and it doesn't melt at all, the texture is dry and brittle.

Why would we do this on purpose? you might ask. First of all, it is lazy, less time consuming, and has a higher yield (as compared with meticulously using fine-mesh bags). Second and more important, this green hash is extremely vape-friendly. It has a wonderful flavor and doesn't gum up our vapes. I have heard of people ruining their MFLB screens and so forth by using full-melt. Not me---I love to load up my MFLB with finishing grinder ground bubble hash, or just shove a big chunk into my Solo stem. I really don't think there are any negative health or flavor effects from vaping a small amount of leaf particles mixed in with the good stuff (especially if the plants were tasty to start with). Combusting this kind of hash is kind of harsh, but I don't do that any more.

Hope that is some helpful advice?

I'm a huge fan of more traditionally produced solventless hashes. So your "contaminated" stuff is exactly the flavor in looking for.

 

[puddleglum]

Thanks, Chippy! I really enjoy this style of hash too, at least for vaping not smoking. I feel like it really captures the herbaceous essence of the plant, very flavorful clouds.

 

[tepictoton]

Hmm ever considered cleaning it with four instance ethanol? I think you might find the end result of that very interesting... And if only in the name of science (and showing us some juicy pictures) one should have tried this process at least once...

 

[lolling boris]

Yes, it's delicious.

 

[puddleglum]

Hmm ever considered cleaning it with four instance ethanol? I think you might find the end result of that very interesting... And if only in the name of science (and showing us some juicy pictures) one should have tried this process at least once...

I am sober so there's no way in heck I would ever "clean" my MJ with ethanol.

 

[tepictoton]

Well, I do not use that either, but was suggesting it instead of pure grain alcohol (witch I do use) because it seems on the other side of the Ocean it is a lot easier to get Ethanol.

I do get what you are saying, and am very careful myself with using anything that is not meant for human consumption...guess here we re lucky, because we can simply buy grain alcohol(96%) over here in the super market..

And that's why I added my little 'in the name of science' disclaimer

 

[Bvapst]

From my basic experience I agree generally with what is being said here. To each is own..
I would say if your material is not top quality (trims or buds : I mean if it's not sticky resinous, properly dry/cured or fresh) you won't make it better than it is. Then what are you after is what should lead you in choosing the best process.
My choice was : bubblehash. I still wait for a good trim batch to try dry-sifting more properly.

• If you want best yield from your trims : solvent extract or dryIce ?

• If you want better taste and full melt : dry sifting. There are a few tech's around on bubbleman and others channels !

• If you a want a cross in between : bubble hash. You get different yield and quality depend on your techniques, strain and micron size. that is where you can learn a lot from a strain too ! And if you don't mind a bit of vegetals, you can push it till you get some green tint in the larger bags : that will be good for cooking and you know you got as much as you could from the trim. gentle mix the 1st and 2nd wash : quality 1st ! The drying environment is important : cool, low humidity, increased surface area. These are the keys !

I don't think refining dry-ice through bags is that much worth ? Wouldn't the dry-ice tech break up vegetables so fine it could mix with the glands ?

 

[PPN]

From my basic experience I agree generally with what is being said here. To each is own..
I would say if your material is not top quality (trims or buds : I mean if it's not sticky resinous, properly dry/cured or fresh) you won't make it better than it is. Then what are you after is what should lead you in choosing the best process.
My choice was : bubblehash. I still wait for a good trim batch to try dry-sifting more properly.

• If you want best yield from your trims : solvent extract or dryIce ?

• If you want better taste and full melt : dry sifting. There are a few tech's around on bubbleman and others channels !

• If you a want a cross in between : bubble hash. You get different yield and quality depend on your techniques, strain and micron size. that is where you can learn a lot from a strain too ! And if you don't mind a bit of vegetals, you can push it till you get some green tint in the larger bags : that will be good for cooking and you know you got as much as you could from the trim. gentle mix the 1st and 2nd wash : quality 1st ! The drying environment is important : cool, low humidity, increased surface area. These are the keys !

I don't think refining dry-ice through bags is that much worth ? Wouldn't the dry-ice tech break up vegetables so fine it could mix with the glands ?

Dry sift....is it a sort of kief but made with really small screen to avoid plant matter....?

I get a nice concentrate choice actually: Homemade kief, compressed high quality kief (but not full melt), bubble hash which is not more messy than reclaim (not full melt but very near to be..), although they are all made from different strains (trim). I get shatters too from Cheese skunk, white magic and trim. And a good pile of reclaim too..

 

[Been Vapin]

Take your bubbled plant material and make it into cannabutter or oil. Don't throw it out.

 

[Bvapst]

Dry sift....is it a sort of kief but made with really small screen to avoid plant matter....?

Yes ! Kief would be the result from a shake over a screen or through the grinder screen. But originally I'm sure you know kief is the plant matter (weed) smoked in the traditional sebsi (sipsi) pipe, mixed with tobacco. I think in our countries, we call it skuff too ! I find better to differentiate both and that's why I prefer to use dry-sift terminology.

So let's say skuff = poor quality dry-sift. There are a lot of way to get your pure heads ! Or you refine your skufff, or you gently bounce and shake flowers over the screens.
The technique, micron size mesh and work can give you the purest, tastiest product. I haven't been able yet to have enough material to learn and experiment. But I got some melt hits with 15 min refined skuff.
+> Check that video :

Unfortunately, I'm waiting for materials and conditions to be able to get my resinous materials to be worked ! A few months...only ! hahaha !

BTW @PPN I would love to have the choice you have on hands now That would treat me well !

 

[puddleglum]

Take your bubbled plant material and make it into cannabutter or oil. Don't throw it out.

Thanks for the suggestion but I'd rather make my canna-oil from the hash.

I did make butter from the leftover bubble water one time, it put me to sleep for 2 days.

 

[IamBenito]

a hip tip for all ya dry sifting folks.

dry ice in the screen bag with flowers,
knot the top up and pull the string thru a small hole in the top of a depot type bucket.
put the lid on the bucket.

grab electric palm sander that uses velcro to attach the paper.
find a piece of the "paper side" of some adhesive backed velcro and stick it to the outside of the lid.
stick er down and turn on sander and count to 25.
remove gold dust in bucket.
repeate till you notice green tinge in dust.