RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
The Hammer !
Iolite vaporiser
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OF
Well-Known Member
I'm with the Lady, I think there's too much 'it depends' in there for an up down answer. I also think there's a much wider variation in consumption in the Hammer.
Hammer owners can, I think, take advantage of the uniform usage by Iolite. IIRC mine does four sessions, two each on 1/8 gram loads on a fill. That's about 2.5 grams of gas, and .25 grams of herb. So all a Hammer owner has to do is weigh his Hammer and herb going in. If it takes less than ten times the gas weight in bud.......
My guess is usually the Hammer stays colder over time (cools off more between hits) and heats smaller masses so depending on how far you push the ABV Hammer should have the MPG title for most?
OF
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
FlyingLow I have the hammer and a first generation wispr in my line up right now, passed along the I-inhale and Iolite a couple of years ago.
In actual use for me the hammer eats up the tank of fuel a lot faster, there is no way I can do four sessions (4 bowls) like I can with the IO. But I don't know if it really uses more butane because I don't know the size of the fuel reservoir's.
Load to Load you'll get more vaping time out of the IO hands down no matter.
In actual use for me the hammer eats up the tank of fuel a lot faster, there is no way I can do four sessions (4 bowls) like I can with the IO. But I don't know if it really uses more butane because I don't know the size of the fuel reservoir's.
Load to Load you'll get more vaping time out of the IO hands down no matter.
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Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
@Vitolo , you were not kidding about fast! I placed my order yesterday at 6:30pm, after my Amazon order. Not only did it ship first thing this morning, but according to Fedex tracking, it will be here tomorrow! Not Thursday, but Tuesday! I am super impressed. Now I don't have to worry about getting the Iolite before the butane.
Meanwhile, in Amazon land, my order for the Newport butane has not even shipped yet.
Amazon is good for some things, but definitely not everything.
![:\](/i/s/hmm.gif "Hmm :\")
That all being said, I needed a new curling iron, so I bought this one. I know I'll have enough butane.
http://www.target.com/p/conair-cordless-curling-iron-3-4-black/-/A-13774126
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Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
Got my Iolite this afternoon!! 
I love this little thing! Even after watching more than one Iolite tutorial video, it is still smaller than I expected it to be. It was not very difficult to fill it with butane, and it was easy to scoop up ground herb with the bowl, even in my condition. I have been learning how to use my arm to do some things too, though.
I clicked the button twice, and it heated up perfectly. I waited about 90 seconds before I took my first draw, and I got a lot of visible vapor throughout the entire session. I read somewhere that you had to commit to a long session with the Iolite, but I don't understand why they said that. I just turned it off when I was finished.
I have to say, I am extremely medicated, perhaps over-medicated! I only filled the chamber half way with ground herb too. I am more medicated than I was yesterday when I vaped bubble hash mixed with ground herb in my Solo.
That being said, should I even get the Optimizer?
I know I have only used it for one session, but I am super impressed right now.
EDIT---I took the abv from my Iolite session and had another full session in my Solo!
I love this little thing! Even after watching more than one Iolite tutorial video, it is still smaller than I expected it to be. It was not very difficult to fill it with butane, and it was easy to scoop up ground herb with the bowl, even in my condition. I have been learning how to use my arm to do some things too, though.
I clicked the button twice, and it heated up perfectly. I waited about 90 seconds before I took my first draw, and I got a lot of visible vapor throughout the entire session. I read somewhere that you had to commit to a long session with the Iolite, but I don't understand why they said that. I just turned it off when I was finished.
I have to say, I am extremely medicated, perhaps over-medicated! I only filled the chamber half way with ground herb too. I am more medicated than I was yesterday when I vaped bubble hash mixed with ground herb in my Solo.
That being said, should I even get the Optimizer? I know I have only used it for one session, but I am super impressed right now.
EDIT---I took the abv from my Iolite session and had another full session in my Solo!
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pigfoot
Dabs are vapor too!
A friend just gave me his Iolite. Used a handful of times, it's probably 3 or 4 years old. It has just sat in a drawer. Won't seem to start - I switch it on, hear a faint hiss from the gas, after a while I can smell gas but just a little. I tried filling it, but it seemed nearly full. Pushing the ingniter even 10 or 15 times doesn't produce the whoosh noise I am supposed to hear - and it doesn't heat up. Any idea what could be wrong? Bad igniter?
Edit: Hey, it started working! I got an orange glow, and it's heating up!
Edit: Hey, it started working! I got an orange glow, and it's heating up!
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Vitolo
Vaporist
Try your best to avoid clicking frantically, lest you wear out the igniter.
Use the best fuel...
I use Newport, but read back here a bit....
Colibri, newport or Iolite brand is best.
bleed the old butane out if unsure.
About the startup.
Turn on butane, and wait 30 seconds before you click.
click firmly and surely.
in that hole where you saw the glow.. you will see a blue flash at each click ... this assures you your igniter is functioning.
Use the best fuel...
I use Newport, but read back here a bit....
Colibri, newport or Iolite brand is best.
bleed the old butane out if unsure.
About the startup.
Turn on butane, and wait 30 seconds before you click.
click firmly and surely.
in that hole where you saw the glow.. you will see a blue flash at each click ... this assures you your igniter is functioning.
A good purge of the fuel can sometimes bring new life back as well.
OF
Well-Known Member
I think you're in for a treat.
A couple of tips, weigh your unit, a 100 gram scale with .1 resolution will allow you to accurately measure the gas charge (a bit over 3 grams), you don't want to ever 'run dry' as water and other contamination can get in if the pressure drops to zero.
Also, if you have bubble hash available try 50 to say 75mg in the center of the load. It goes and goes and goes.......
Oh, yeah, the old style VG stems ($.50 each from VG) with the skinny part cut off and a short piece of 1/4 inch ID Silicone tube is a very nice upgrade on the stem for us sippers........
It's a fun companion IMO. You can even play 'drinking games' by taking a big old hit every time the heater cycles.
Feed it good fuel and it'll make you happy. Congrats.
OF
KidFated.
Unknown Member
Does the heater actually go by temp? Seems like it's timed..
Either way, I'm LOVING my iolite. More than I did the solo.. I think this is the v1 iolite but damn, nothing beats it for driving home after work.. Yeah..
Edit: @pigfoot is a boss.
Edit#2 do all of them cycle once or twice after shutting down?
Either way, I'm LOVING my iolite. More than I did the solo.. I think this is the v1 iolite but damn, nothing beats it for driving home after work.. Yeah..
Edit: @pigfoot is a boss.
Edit#2 do all of them cycle once or twice after shutting down?
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OF
Well-Known Member
Yes. A bimetalic (changes size/shape with temperature) in the aluminum block opens and closes the gas feed valve. There's a lot of thermal mass so it's slow to respond and doesn't shift much but time idle cycles against hard hitting periods. Idle runs longer per cycle.
Yes, very normal. The valve you close still has gas trapped between it and the thermostatically controlled metering valve. It's all mechanical, the control valve doesn't know about gas only temperature, so the Iolite runs until that trapped gas is used up. Just plan ahead, shut the valve a minute (several hits) before you're finished.
Otherwise, yup it's a good little gadget for sure. IMO well thought out.
BTW if you shop around you can find Butane in small clear bottles (20 mL?). A dollar or so in convenience stores. Dump the junk in it and then you can use the adapters that come on your can of Vector (or whatever premium fuel you like) to fill it up again. I flushed mine out to be sure all the bad gas was gone. IIRC it fills the Iolite six times? And you can see how much is left. Something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Butane-Refill..._sbs_lg_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=0FZ0P8RNK709KASAP69Y
I've got one and some ground herb in a small camera case......it's ready to leave with a similar camera case with the Iolite in it. One in each coat pocket......
OF
For your viewing pleasure, here is the valve @OF speaks of. Two different metals which when the upper silver looking metal gets hot it closes, or more accurately put, causing misalignment between the pin holes of the two metals. Many variables put into the design, spring clip tension, metal expansion factors and hole placements all have to be correct. A very reliable mechanism for sure.
OF
Well-Known Member
Thanks for the photo, Bro! Yup, thar she blows fer sure. I'm amazed by the precision such things have to be in places. Just making a valve that 100% shuts off 'thin' gas every time is a feat to be proud of. And it has to do this hundreds of thousands of cycles without maintenance? There's very little force available, really, and we need "hysteresis" as well. No half measures, the valve has to 'snap' open wide, then 'slam' shut solidly in the face of possible contamination in the gas or fill process (how many of you clean the dust from the fill valve before pumping more gas in? I don't either, of course.....). And it can't wear, even a little tiny bit.
Oh, yeah, you gotta make it in the western world, paying 'real wages', and come in for ten sawbucks street price?
Go fish.
OF
theglowcloud
New Member
my friend sold me her lightly used iolite. i've used it a couple times and it worked fine, but i think i may have overfilled it and now it doesn't make any sound when i turn it on. i've tried venting the chamber but when i press down nothing happens--no sound, no liquid, no air flow out, nothing. am i doing something wrong? thanks!
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
Are you sure you are actually getting it filled properly? I had that problem because I wasn't pressing down hard enough when I was filling it.
theglowcloud
New Member
yep, at first i had that problem but the last few times i've pressed hard and filled it til it started spilling out. i never looked up how long i should fill it for, so when it started acting up i filled it a lot more than i should have
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
Is it possible that you just drained the tank? I'm just trying to explore all options.
theglowcloud
New Member
don't think so--i filled it for 10+ seconds twice and haven't gotten it working since then, hence the overfilling worry. thanks for trying to get to the bottom of this! could it be clogged somehow? the butane i use is 4x refined, so i didn't think that was it
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
What brand are you using?
You should do a purge to be sure what's happening. Let ALL the gas out via the fill connector. Need to poke something solid but won't damage or clog the fill hole.
Next use some scales to weigh the empty IO. Write this weight down.
Now once you get a full fill with good gas, you can weigh again to get a reference. And know if gas is going in.
Good luck.
Next use some scales to weigh the empty IO. Write this weight down.
Now once you get a full fill with good gas, you can weigh again to get a reference. And know if gas is going in.
Good luck.
theglowcloud
New Member
the problem is nothing happens when i attempt a purge--the thing's definitely being depressed, and i've tried a few different tools to make sure that wasn't the issue.
vicki: lucienne. i'm a newbie so it might be a shitty brand