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Radwin Bodnic

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I still need your help in understanding your aforementioned statement. Kindly educate me as I truly don't understand what it means. Well known history? Kindly elaborate.
Honestly it won't change anything because if you don't agree with my argument, even if it's recorded history, you'll state this is false.

Just like the Wikipedia article about Zionism. You said :
Astonishing that you blindly accept the 1st article you read, and paragraph no less, one furnished by Wikipedia. Read more, please.
Why do you assume this is the first and only thing I've read about Zionism ? Our continuous exchanges these past days showed more than that.
I cite Wikipedia because it is a collaborative, independently reviewed (hundreds of times) encyclopedia that delivers very high quality content and because their definition summarize pretty well what Zionism is. If you don't ageee with that then I'm certainly not the one that needs to read more here.
Zionism is inherently racism, colonialism and supremacism.
But Wikipedia is too woke for you and you prefer your usual propaganda, I get it.

Israel apartheid?
Yes of course. Yes there's mosques and churches and Arabs living in Israel (most of the Arabs families and buildings were here before the creation of Israel so it's not a political will of inclusion from their leaders). But the fact that there is segregation towards Arabs is apartheid. They are barred access to the underground shelters when bombs pierce the iron dome, articles you didn't took the time to read are published in this thread a page back or two. This is a very recent and minimal example of the segregation happening in israel.

back to the antisemitism = Zionism topic.
I know you are already indoctrinated but you're probably not the only one reading this so I'll answer for all the silent lectors, even though I now know your soul can't be saved.

Zionism takes his roots in pre-Nazi (but already antisemitic) germany. It was supported by the Nazis and they helped ten of thousands of German Jews settle in Palestine. This is the Haavra Agrement.
German Zionists Jews even opposed anti-nazi protests (thus supporting the nazis) even though nazis were already boycotting Jewish shops and doing pogroms.

Before and during WWII there were nazis parties all around Europe, including some powerful ones like the BUF in England, and most of them used the same antisemitic propaganda than the third reich. These European nazis openly wanted to get rid of the Jews.

After WWII and the world discovered the extent and atrocities of the Shoa, most of these European nazis, in order to save their asses from the purges, said that the final solution was way too extreme and that they envisioned other solutions like the creation of the state of Israel. So that they could get rid of the Jews without appearing too much antisemitic.

Nowadays this is still true. Most antisemitics are supporting Israel because they want to deport all the Jews of their respective countries, while at the same time exposing themselves as zionists rather than antisemites.
And because antisemites are even more Islamophobic than they are antisemite, they are absolutely thrilled that Israel is doing a genocide on Arabs. Serving two causes at the same time. That makes me question your own antisemitism by the way. (I have no doubt about your Islamophobia.) because you exactly sound like a white supremacist.


Now i need to answer one last of your questions, that is again another trick to make me appear like an antisemite (it's essentially the same question like : but do you condemn hamas ?)
BTW - may I assume that you favor a homeland for the Jews?
As much anti Zionist as I am, I think at this point there's no way back and that the state of Israel should exist.
BUT, it should absolutely stop the Zionist policy that is : an apartheid state within their borders, violent colonialism, ethnics cleansing and genocide, outside of their borders.
Israel leaders should be stopped from their fascist and supremacist actions and go to jail for the rest of their life.
Jews have been living a lot more peacefully in the Middle East before the Europeans went here and fucked everything up.

I know you don't read but others might find these interesting :



 
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Radwin Bodnic

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@Bazinga You are wasting your time here.
When I was young and hippie, I really thought weed was some sort of antidote for both brainwashing and hate. Obviously I was wrong. Quite a few white supremacists around here...

Edit : I haven't took enough acid in my life to be sure, but thinking about it now, it may be the antidote I was thinking of...
 

florduh

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LOL for the first time, I agree with the Canadian Trumpist. Bazinga, I gave you a bunch of book recomendations. I would suggest reading those as soon as possible. It's fine to have disagreements on matters of opinion. But you're mistaken on matters of fact regarding Israeli history and current Israeli politics.

@Bazinga if you're somewhat technically proficient and open to engaging in a little light copyright crime, I have a few of those books in audiobook format. Let me know if you're interested and I'll find a way to get them to you. Open invite for anyone, btw.


I don't know why I even need to argue in favor of my worldview sometimes, man. The smartest guy to ever live... a guy so smart we studied his brain after he died, was a Socialist, Anti-Zionist Jew.

GIF by Albert Einstein
 

Bazinga

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You’re describing Miami, not Israel. Israelis were dying in missile attacks this morning. The humidity in Miami is horrible, but it won’t kill you.

That’s the dumbest thing about Israel. Set aside the Palestinians, it’s a failure for Jews too. Both in Israel and the diaspora.
There was a time I thought that we would be retiring in south Florida. Not anymore !

I have visited and yes it was hot and humid!! I think what bothered me more was those huge water bugs or whatever the hell they are. If I had a saddle I feel as though I could have ridden them.😃

LOL for the first time, I agree with the Canadian Trumpist. Bazinga, I gave you a bunch of book recomendations. I would suggest reading those as soon as possible. It's fine to have disagreements on matters of opinion. But you're mistaken on matters of fact regarding Israeli history and current Israeli politics.

@Bazinga if you're somewhat technically proficient and open to engaging in a little light copyright crime, I have a few of those books in audiobook format. Let me know if you're interested and I'll find a way to get them to you. Open invite for anyone, btw.



I don't know why I even need to argue in favor of my worldview sometimes, man. The smartest guy to ever live... a guy so smart we studied his brain after he died, was a Socialist, Anti-Zionist Jew.

GIF by Albert Einstein
I ordered from the local library one the books you recommended. Still waiting.

Thanks for the offer of the audio books. I've never been able to enjoy these due to attention deficit.

Please be advised that Einstein was not the smartest guy to ever live. Well, maybe he was, however many other humans have/had higher IQs.

Einstein's IQ was estimated to be 160. Ted Kaczynski's estimated to be 167. Elon Musk 155-160. Bill Gates 160. Stephen Hawking 160.

It seems that folks who disagree with me (and that's okay) reference to only smart people who tend to agree with their narrative. If someone smarter than Einstein took an opposite position would that mean Einstein is wrong? BTW you don't have to be a genius to be a socialist anti-Zionist.

And just so you know when I was tested my IQ was "off the charts". I was told by the testers that they have never previously tested anyone with an IQ of -17.

Honestly it won't change anything because if you don't agree with my argument, even if it's recorded history, you'll state this is false.

Just like the Wikipedia article about Zionism. You said :

Why do you assume this is the first and only thing I've read about Zionism ? Our continuous exchanges these past days showed more than that.
I cite Wikipedia because it is a collaborative, independently reviewed (hundreds of times) encyclopedia that delivers very high quality content and because their definition summarize pretty well what Zionism is. If you don't ageee with that then I'm certainly not the one that needs to read more here.
Zionism is inherently racism, colonialism and supremacism.
But Wikipedia is too woke for you and you prefer your usual propaganda, I get it.


Yes of course. Yes there's mosques and churches and Arabs living in Israel (most of the Arabs families and buildings were here before the creation of Israel so it's not a political will of inclusion from their leaders). But the fact that there is segregation towards Arabs is apartheid. They are barred access to the underground shelters when bombs pierce the iron dome, articles you didn't took the time to read are published in this thread a page back or two. This is a very recent and minimal example of the segregation happening in israel.

back to the antisemitism = Zionism topic.
I know you are already indoctrinated but you're probably not the only one reading this so I'll answer for all the silent lectors, even though I now know your soul can't be saved.

Zionism takes his roots in pre-Nazi (but already antisemitic) germany. It was supported by the Nazis and they helped ten of thousands of German Jews settle in Palestine. This is the Haavra Agrement.
German Zionists Jews even opposed anti-nazi protests (thus supporting the nazis) even though nazis were already boycotting Jewish shops and doing pogroms.

Before and during WWII there were nazis parties all around Europe, including some powerful ones like the BUF in England, and most of them used the same antisemitic propaganda than the third reich. These European nazis openly wanted to get rid of the Jews.

After WWII and the world discovered the extent and atrocities of the Shoa, most of these European nazis, in order to save their asses from the purges, said that the final solution was way too extreme and that they envisioned other solutions like the creation of the state of Israel. So that they could get rid of the Jews without appearing too much antisemitic.

Nowadays this is still true. Most antisemitics are supporting Israel because they want to deport all the Jews of their respective countries, while at the same time exposing themselves as zionists rather than antisemites.
And because antisemites are even more Islamophobic than they are antisemite, they are absolutely thrilled that Israel is doing a genocide on Arabs. Serving two causes at the same time. That makes me question your own antisemitism by the way. (I have no doubt about your Islamophobia.) because you exactly sound like a white supremacist.


Now i need to answer one last of your questions, that is again another trick to make me appear like an antisemite (it's essentially the same question like : but do you condemn hamas ?)

As much anti Zionist as I am, I think at this point there's no way back and that the state of Israel should exist.
BUT, it should absolutely stop the Zionist policy that is : an apartheid state within their borders, violent colonialism, ethnics cleansing and genocide, outside of their borders.
Israel leaders should be stopped from their fascist and supremacist actions and go to jail for the rest of their life.
Jews have been living a lot more peacefully in the Middle East before the Europeans went here and fucked everything up.

I know you don't read but others might find these interesting :



Gosh, I actually agree with you of some of this post. Finally common ground.

Be advised that Wikipedia's contents have been reported as questionable content accuracy and reliability. Somewhere I read their content is about 80% accurate. I have no way to prove or disprove this.

Most everything today is too woke for me.

I am not trying to trick you or anyone on this forum. Why would you accuse me of being a white supremacist and being Islamophobia?
I have not resorted, nor will I, to name calling. I thought that we have different views and were attempting in good faith in sharing ideas in hope of learning the.

You stated "Most antisemitics are supporting Israel because they want to deport all the Jews of their respective countries, while at the same time exposing themselves as zionists rather than antisemites". Where did this come from? I'd love to hear you explanation as why there is so much antisemitism (not anti Zionism).


You stated you that you (me) don't think I read. You are welcome to your uninformed opinion. I'm educated up to Doctoral level, taught at the college level, worked in corporate America and as an old fart I continue to read and learn.

I would love to continue to discuss and debate with you. However, if you continue to attempt to insult or impugn my posts, I see no reason to move forward with you. It's a shame because then we both lose.

@Bazinga You are wasting your time here.
May I ask why? I'd really like to know.

Thanks.

When I was young and hippie, I really thought weed was some sort of antidote for both brainwashing and hate. Obviously I was wrong. Quite a few white supremacists around here...

Edit : I haven't took enough acid in my life to be sure, but thinking about it now, it may be the antidote I was thinking of...
Quite a few white supremacists around here. How did you figure that out? Wikipedia? Does your computer have a camera? How else would you know the color of their skin? Brainwashing and hate? By whom? You are the one that appears to hate Israel.

Never tried acid. Too afraid.
 
Bazinga,

pop22

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So, the Most Moral Apartheid State lied and started a war with Iran for no good reason? Because Israel said Iran was days away from getting a nuke. There's also about a zero percent chance Trump/America didn't sign off on these strikes.

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I'd comment on this but DJT would have me deported for being Native American....
 
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