I admit my initial post was deserving of your tone and angle of perception. So it's understandable that you would continue to think we are at odds here. I apologize for being so careless with my words and I also appreciate you taking the time to shoot the breeze with me over these interwires. I like that you have diagnosed me and seem to want to help me succeed somehow. I didn't even realize I was trying to do anything other than chuckle at the idea of hearing someone sell a turd sandwich. Because that what it feels like when you listen to anyone who can't see past the mistake. You can patronize them all day and hear their side....and it falls short. It's bogus. Otherwise I agree with you completely.
I don't really favor legislation of any sort, just the removal of any criminal penalties associated. So you think people should need some sort of permission ? Interesting.
I find your perception of my failure rather curious. I'm only pointing out the reality of lies and failure, and you seem to want to turn that on me, as though perhaps this lie and failure is acceptable because some people fail to recognize it needs correcting.
You mistook me mentioning one thing for me attempting to sell an idea. I can sell the idea all day if that's what you want. Because that's how obvious it is. That's how blatant the nonsense is. It's an open and shut case. I think you know that. It sounds like you're well versed. I just made the mistake of letting you think I was trying to convince anyone and for that I owe you an apology.
It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of humanity. How can you possibly believe what you're saying, implying that it might be acceptable ?
I don't think we are at odds, we have similar opinions, just different understandings of how changing the circumstances surrounding them is best achieved.
Apology accepted with the terms that you are sincere, it's an important part of life to not see people with different opinions as the enemy.
I haven't diagnosed you so much as I have myself and why my arguments failed so critically when they were from the same points as yours.
If you're patronizing someone, don't expect their view to be changed, patronization will only polarize those who are of a differing perspective. You might see it as bogus, but try and think to the last time someone with an opinion different than yours was patronizing towards you, it's not too difficult to see why you would fail at changing the opinion of another if you did so.
I find the permission based system being the best compromise. In fact I see it as being closer to the IDEAL than just pure lack of enforcement. This is because it is conditional upon showing you are responsible, which is something I feel is undervalued in our society. Furthermore, I don't see a high likelihood of decriminalization bringing about resolution that is mostly free of extremist conflicts. I do, however, see the possibility of my system bringing about acceptance from most perspectives, especially since it so well addresses the wide array of dilemma associated with the use of drugs.
I will explain my ideal system further if you are interested.
The part about failure is the assumption that you didn't come here just to vent. I guess I was mistaken. I don't really see the point of having a strong opinion if you can't convince someone of an opposing viewpoint, similarly I don't see the point of being as salesperson if you can't convince someone who isn't already sold. What's the point of convincing someone who is already sold? Might as well sell your product online.
It might be blatant and obvious to you, because you are evaluating from the civil rights perspective, not the "what's the worst that can happen?" perspective, which has many concerns your argument will not address. If we assume you are anti-gun for a moment, it's like me saying guns should be legal for everyone because it's your right as long as you don't use them to harm others. Right now you would be thinking "but what about those who are not responsible with guns, or those who are mentally unstable."
In my ideal it isn't acceptable, but we don't live in my ideal, we live in reality.