@steama You can't regulate, you can only educate.
ok ill try to educate yall
That cheap Chinese eCigs can be made from deceptively dangerous materials won't be lost on FCers. Unfortunately, I won't be surprised if politicians use these findings to vilify medical grade vaporizers as well.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/14/b...column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
ive had time to read this article and it seems to me that its been written in order to spread misinformation and confuse the uniformed reader.
Article doesnt make much sense to me. I know chinese products can be low quality and also made with poor quality parts. But just look at your typical joyeetech ecig, buttom part of the ecig is not part of the airpath and is only used for heating. So the only concern would be tanks, which there are plenty of name brands to choose from
^ this is correct. the vapor path of any typical ecig will contain stainless steel, pryrex glass or plastic tanks, and nickel from the coil, and wicking material which can be made from either cotton, silica, bio ceramic cloth, stainless steel mesh etc. all of these materials are safe at the proper temps.
the problem is when the wicking material gets burned = carinogens. this happens for a variety of reasons, such as using high % VG nic juice, drawing to fast and too long, overheating the coil, not enough juice in the tank, etc - if youve ever experienced a dry hit youll know its terrible. Is also almost impossible to finish inhaling a dry hit.
however, lets remember that the whole point of vaping is to NOT SMOKE CIGS. ecigs are a LESS HARMFUL alternative to cigs they're not completely harmless! as with everything research is expensive, and the people doing the research don't always have the same goals in mind as the end user so... the following link is a proposal to research temp
please check this link out -
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/...867&fb_action_types=indiegogo:contribute#home
it seems to me the greatest harm comes from user error, not from the ecig device or materials used, which is why the dna40 chip has been developed, the computer gives the person the temp they want no matter how long they hold the button or how they draw.
typically a good vape depends on 3 things - juice, airflow, heat. the only way to control the heat on a typical ecig is by pressing the button for varying lengths of time and/or varying your draw speed whilst pushing the button i.e. if you draw fast and hard and push the button for a short time youll experience a cool vape with little vapor production, vs holding the button down for a long time, and drawing slowly youll experience a hotter, denser more flavorful experiece with more vapor production.
After exhaustive experimentation Big Tobacco is discovering what any newbie on FC could've told them. Heating below combustion is the only safe delivery system. eCigs melting some oil concoction as opposed to heating herb below combustion is like chewing coca leaves compared to smoking crack.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/b...n-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
ive had a chance to read this article as well and i dont understand what they are going on about when they state;
"e-cigarettes did not deliver enough nicotine to satisfy a smoker’s cravings",
"Along with replicating important sensory aspects of smoking, like taste, the biggest hurdle for the new devices, experts say, is delivering nicotine with the efficiency of a cigarette. Within seconds of taking a drag, a smoker feels the nicotine’s soothing effects because compounds that are produced when tobacco burns are perfectly sized to carry nicotine deep into the lungs allowing the drug to quickly reach the brain. Those same compounds, which are collectively known as tars, also cause cancer and other diseases.
"By comparison, the type of vapor generated by e-cigarettes, experts say, is a less efficient carrier of nicotine than smoke. “There is more deposition in the mouth,” with vapor, said Jeffrey S. Gentry, the chief scientific officer of R.J. Reynolds, a division of Reynolds American."
A study published last year showed that one e-cigarette brand, Njoy, produced levels of nicotine in a user’s blood significantly lower than the amount produced by a cigarette like a Marlboro. As a result, e-cigarette users have frequently turned to larger devices known as vape pens that have bigger batteries that can produce more heat. But more heat to increase nicotine levels may also result in higher levels of toxins and carcinogens, experts say.
Tobacco companies have rushed to increase nicotine levels in their vapor devices."
all of these statements are misleading. delivering nicotine with the efficiency of a cig is not the issue, as any ecig can deliver varying amounts of nicotine in your blood - its quite possible to get nic sick quite quickly when compared to normal cigs and the reason is that Nic ejuice comes different strengths, just like cigs do (lights, extra lights etc).
there is a simple formula to work out how much ejuice you'd need to consume in order to equal your typical habit in number of cigs smoked per day.
typically ejuice comes in 3,6,12,18,24, mg/ml of nicotine. you find the level of nicotine you want by figuring out what your typical nicotine intake was per day. so if your typical cig has 1mg of nicotine in it, and you smoke 25 per day = 25mg/day.
then you simply do the math,
if you vape 8mls of 3mg/ml per day you'd equal your typical days nicotine intake in this example.
if you vape 2mls of 12mg/ml you'd be where you want to be....
some ecigs are much better than others at vaporizing ejuice than others which means in one device i might need 12mg/ml to be satisfied, whereas, in an rebuildable dripping atomizer i would be satisfied with 3mg/ml. the reason being that with the rda your getting much more ejuice per inhale - more nicotine per puff. so to prevent you from getting sick you lower the dose, but you'll use more juice.
"At Philip Morris International’s research center here, where about 300 scientists work, the nicotine chase is headed in several directions. The company says it has spent about $2 billion since 2008 researching cigarette alternatives with much of that effort focused on devices that use tobacco, but heat it, rather than burn it. Though the “safer” cigarettes that Philip Morris and R.J. Reynolds introduced decades ago were also heat-not-burn devices — and flopped with smokers — the new products, Philip Morris officials say, are more technologically advanced."
if this is true then smh!! i can't wait to see the results, a vape that they need to check out fc to learn how to builld/use a proper vaporizer!!!
