How vested are you in your vape-related paraphernalia?

Alexis

Well-Known Member
A FP IS definitely on my list. I've wanted one for some time now.
I can recommend bro. Its a special vape. An idle one sits downstairs under our arm chair, downstairs, my mum has pretty much given up vaping.

I do get tempted to use it at times but it just isn't worth it.

And Ramahs, something else you do want to get which I saw you mention are those stores and Bickel brushes.

You get 3 for like £3/$, I got some from Vapefiend. They are absolutely perfect for brushing out all of my bowls and gauzes. The brushes are sturdy enough to to brush all of the resin off of the screens without messing up the bristles.

I can't remember when I bought mine but it was 1 or 2 years ago and I'm only on the first brush still I don't even know where the other two unused ones are off the top of my head lol. Kicking about in a drawer somewhere no doubt but I'm not sure I will ever need them.

So get the S & B brushes first. And the Flowerpot is a worthy consideration. But also dont forget the spectacular Verdamper.

Still so unknown at large. If your main interest is a hard-hitting vape, the Verdamper really can't be beaten. I loved my Verdamper in service for 6 years. I only wished the temp was adjustable.

Now Vaposhop offers temp adjustable Verdampers. Hits harder than any other vape in the world.
 

bossman

Gentleman Of Leisure
I have several vapes on my radar right now. I just acquired a Flowerpot, which I've been wanting for a long time, but already I'm working on selecting the next one. I like to research several that look interesting to me. So it's definitely a hobby, I mean I have 10-12 vapes now, certainly don't need anymore. I think it's one of my favorite hobbies I've ever had.

Then I have my grinders, scoops, dabbers, and too much other stuff to list. I love all of it! :)

So far the leading candidate for my next vape is the Volcano hybrid. If that's the next one I need to start saving.
Do you have a Splinter Z? Other FP heads have said the Z comes closest to a pocket FP and the ZV2 is still marked down to $99.

It's not totally off topic because my initial answer to the "how vested are you" question was to say that I'm just buying every Splinter deal I come across.

I definitely fall into the hobby category insofar as I've enjoyed trying a bunch of different portables to learn what I appreciate in a given situation. Turns out I like on demand convection and relegate my hybrid electric session vapes to sharing and occasional water use.
 

Gigsabits53

Well-Known Member
Do you have a Splinter Z? Other FP heads have said the Z comes closest to a pocket FP and the ZV2 is still marked down to $99.

It's not totally off topic because my initial answer to the "how vested are you" question was to say that I'm just buying every Splinter deal I come across.

I definitely fall into the hobby category insofar as I've enjoyed trying a bunch of different portables to learn what I appreciate in a given situation. Turns out I like on demand convection and relegate my hybrid electric session vapes to sharing and occasional water use.
I do not have a Splinter Z. I am aware of it but didn't realize it's been compared to a pocket FP. I am most definitely intrigued. Another one to add to the list. It may jump ahead of the others, especially at that price.

Thanks @bossman
 

Alexis

Well-Known Member
I do not have a Splinter Z. I am aware of it but didn't realize it's been compared to a pocket FP. I am most definitely intrigued. Another one to add to the list. It may jump ahead of the others, especially at that price.

Thanks @bossman
I tested a Z over 3 days. Obviously not very long to make any fair assessment. I wasn't able to tolerate the Splinter Z with my allergies.

But I did run a few bowls through it. I'm sure I never exactly got it dialled in but regardless I was not especially impressed or blown away by any aspects of it. Not taste, vapor quality or effects.

The Flowerpot I fell in love with immediately, as many do. From the firsr bowl, I loved everything about it especially the ease of use, not to mention flavour, vapor quality and especially effects.

It was heartbreaking to not be able to use it at all. It was hard to swallow, it would have made me so happy to keep and use the Flowerpot.

The Z- I really wasn't that perturbed about. I was extremely pleased to offload it to my good friend Dave for all of my money back.

So I'm sure the Z went over my head (haha poetry) somewhat. I have to respect the t9n of experienced, smart vaporists here who rave chronic about the amazing Splinter Z, but I was not blown away at all.

The MV1 I also tested, I only had 2 crucibles to confirm its another one which won't work for me.

But I was really gutted, I so much enjoyed the use of the MV1, but even more so the effects were just Ace IMO.

I only ran those 2 bowls, on separate nights, but I was really impressed with the high I got. Noticeably different to other vapes. I much preferred the MV1 to the Splinter Z.

But Im odd, and I think most people who own both rank the Z on a higher pedestal.
That was my experience and feeling though from those limited initial impressions.
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
edit: to your question - I justify buying higher end vaping gear like I justify buying a higher end dishwasher: I'm too poor to buy low quality goods.

Exactly!

:cheers:

Mind you that this has been a fun month of exploration and entertainment always cost money. But put me down for a $600 lay-down on a Volcano? It must be a psychology thing but I'm not seeing it happening.


Some vaporizers are expensive. But some can be rationalized as "investments" then "amortized" over time. $600 over X years isn't that bad. You're already at $350 and you just stuck your toe in the pool!

You're paying for the experience for sure, but truthfully what a lot of people won't admit is some of these vapor experiences simply cannot be matched by lesser devices.

For example; I dig my Mighty for various reasons, but never, ever, no matter how many bowls I load in it will it hit like a Flowerpot. And no amount of bowls in my Air will make it hit hard as my Mighty. It's a pyramid, but IME the best view is from the pinnacle!
 

TommyDee

Vaporitor
Indeed, @invertedisdead, I always spend way more than what I refused to spend at one time at some point for all my *AS activities. Maybe I am looking at it from the number of bobbles for money over the crowning achievement being only a single item. Being a gadget hound does tend to slant these decisions a great deal.

And honestly, I am using the Volcano only as this is the top end of the cost spectrum, at least their top of the line model hitting 6 bills. It would never work in my situation.

My other problem is I can't stand selling used things. I often give things away simply because that is the value to me at that point. Therefore, I don't experience recovery as a means to balance the hobby. My strategy that has worked for decades is that some 'product' will come out of my curiosity and as many times before, has covered my [insert obsession here]AS habit's expenses.

And I almost missed it... indeed, I do need something that covers my needs. The MFLB isn't that for the long run. The LB is a conversational vape or a nice little ritual session when you are up for one. But indeed, what do I take a draw on to get the full medicated benefit I need with minimal fuss and preparation. I'm thinking a VapCap with IH is the simplest way to get started getting powerful draws.
 
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olivianewtonjohn

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My other problem is I can't stand selling used things. I often give things away simply because that is the value to me at that point. Therefore, I don't experience recovery as a means to balance the hobby. My strategy that has worked for decades is that some 'product' will come out of my curiosity and as many times before, has covered my [insert obsession here]AS habit's expenses.

Thats a bad habit IMO :goon:! Especially when it comes to this hobby. Its hard to really know what device works for you, lots of good devices out there but its a personal preference with which one works the best for your needs/routine. I bought a used SSV probably like $70 locally. Used it about a year and im sure sold for $50+, so thats one year testing out and at worst a $20 loss. I did the same when I came across a volcano for $175, it was too good of a deal to pass up. I used it for probably 2 years and im sure I sold it for ~$200.

Im always on the lookout for good deals so I can test out the next vaporizer. This hobby can be expensive and im sure when im retired I will have a large collection, but if you dont want to spend alot of $ yet and want to try lots of vaporizers theres always good ways to do both.
 

Alexis

Well-Known Member
Just one of many bad habits of mine :p
But I hear you. That's not going to change in me at this point.
I think that is really neat and noble of you to take that sacrifice. I hear you, you are saying that once you feel you have had your money's worth, all is fair and square.

You don't consider yourself as losing out to pass items on for free.
According to Jesus (according to the Bible (according to....hehe, it's like Chinese dolls)), there is more pleasure to be had by giving than receiving.
You may be seen as the odd one out, barmy to spend so much money of vapes then just give it away for nothing.

And status quo will tell you- No don't do that. Hold onto it and get what you can for it. Don't give anything away.

I strongly expect that in some years or decades if civilization has not crumbled this view will actually swing around and it will come to be seen as the norm and the right and Noble thing to do, to follow your example and gift our unwanted possessions to others selflessly with great pleasure.

So I commend you on this selflessness and freedom with yourself on the matter without feeling guilty or shortchanged, and I'm sure you'll get a great feeling from knowing that you are passing on not just material possessions but hours and potentially years of enjoyment and happiness.
 

Verax

Well-Known Member
I have always invested a decent amount into my hobbies. My wife and I are dual income with no kids, and we like to play. :) I used to be REALLY into bourbon / cocktails, and still have over 400 bottles of booze upstairs in the bar, but I stopped drinking regularly when I started vaping. So for me, it was just transferring funds from other hobbies, into this one.

For me - I started from the medical side, experimenting for my wife, who has terrible migraines. she was not comfortable with the act of consuming cannabis, but wanted to try. Dry herb vaping was the intake method that I thought was best for her. So, I set out to try some stuff, about 6 years ago.

I started with a MFLB, and a Da Buddha. I used those exclusively for a month, and tried to gather feedback, before figuring out what we liked / disliked, and how we were using them.

Long story short - her symptoms were not mitigated by cannabis, and she never really got into it. That being said... I did! (for non-medical reasons) :)

I will say that I probably average about $2-3,000 / yr on vaporizing related gear. It's what I like to do in my spare time, and I'm fine with that. (I'm pretty self-aware, and I know I'm being excessive. I don't NEED anything more, but I do enjoy it.) I really get into custom / small craft handmade stuff, made by people who care about what they are doing. It helps me enjoy my experience.

It's gotten to the point where I have a shelf of normal use vapes and gear, and a couple storage boxes of stuff I don't use much.

All that said... I'm on a tear right now, and will spend vastly more than that this year. I'm not good at selling old stuff either, but I'm great at giving it away. so, I end up gifting vaporizers to friends who seem to like a particular one.
 
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TommyDee

Vaporitor
I am in full agreement that a $3K hobby habit is more than reasonable when the household budgets is not strained. I'm sorry that your efforts did not yield positive results for your wife. So much for that med-angle on my side too then. Mine is for pain and cramps and that Cannabis manages well. The cramps is the hardest to manage. Migraines is a tough one! Thanks for sharing @Verax
 

Alexis

Well-Known Member
who has terrible migraines.

Good evening mate and really nice to read through this generous and open little insight into your life that you have shared with us add to your positive and upbeat contributions here on the whole.

It's always nice to get a little insight into people situations who we engage and interact with here ear so we can understand and appreciate our unique individual situations better.

I just wanted to say about the migraines I know that's one treatment Avenue which has shown remarkable promise in many cases for migraines is actually using psychedelics like LSD.

But there is a newly emerging culture and practice of microdosing psychedelics which is picking up huge momentum and holds promise for mental health treatment in the future.

So I believe that people have also been using microdosing for the treatment of migraines and I have heard quite a few remarkable positive testimonies.

Anyway just wanted to mention it in case it is something you and your wife may be open to exploring at some point. It may be the case that a very wide range of different psychedelic compounds including psilocybin mushrooms could work well with migraines in both microdosing and microdosing strategies.

Here is a link to an organisation in the US who are researching microdosing with psilocybin mushrooms and I believe they will provide the daily doses for people in exchange for feedback or something like that but they certainly are passionate and interested in this and you may be able to contact them with a simple enquiry as to their experience with migraine sufferers and whether their program and the practice in general can help.

But also no available across the globe currently and for several years now are various grey area unregulated sort of legal lysergamide compounds which are virtually identical to LSD 25 but are slightly different in Formula so as to bypass legal restrictions.

These compounds in particular are perfect will microdosing because they are the purest lab grade possible and also the dosages are precise and exact which makes it easy for consistent volumetric microdosing, where you take a sub-threshold dose which should not create any perceivable effects in theory. A general insight into microdosing, with one of the gray area homologues.

https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing/1p-lsd/

If you ever want any direction or info or assistance with this any time, like sources etc, feel free to pm me.
 

Verax

Well-Known Member
Good evening mate and really nice to read through this generous and open little insight into your life that you have shared with us add to your positive and upbeat contributions here on the whole.

It's always nice to get a little insight into people situations who we engage and interact with here ear so we can understand and appreciate our unique individual situations better.

I just wanted to say about the migraines I know that's one treatment Avenue which has shown remarkable promise in many cases for migraines is actually using psychedelics like LSD.

But there is a newly emerging culture and practice of microdosing psychedelics which is picking up huge momentum and holds promise for mental health treatment in the future.

So I believe that people have also been using microdosing for the treatment of migraines and I have heard quite a few remarkable positive testimonies.

Anyway just wanted to mention it in case it is something you and your wife may be open to exploring at some point. It may be the case that a very wide range of different psychedelic compounds including psilocybin mushrooms could work well with migraines in both microdosing and microdosing strategies.

Here is a link to an organisation in the US who are researching microdosing with psilocybin mushrooms and I believe they will provide the daily doses for people in exchange for feedback or something like that but they certainly are passionate and interested in this and you may be able to contact them with a simple enquiry as to their experience with migraine sufferers and whether their program and the practice in general can help.

But also no available across the globe currently and for several years now are various grey area unregulated sort of legal lysergamide compounds which are virtually identical to LSD 25 but are slightly different in Formula so as to bypass legal restrictions.

These compounds in particular are perfect will microdosing because they are the purest lab grade possible and also the dosages are precise and exact which makes it easy for consistent volumetric microdosing, where you take a sub-threshold dose which should not create any perceivable effects in theory. A general insight into microdosing, with one of the gray area homologues.

https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing/1p-lsd/

If you ever want any direction or info or assistance with this any time, like sources etc, feel free to pm me.

Great stuff, thanks! Neither of us have much experience with psychedelics, and there is an intimidation factor, or a negative stigma, which would need to be overcome, especially on her side. Micro-dosing is an interesting angle, and I usually micro-dose with vaping cannabis as well. Looks like I've got some research to do! Thanks again :)
 

Alexis

Well-Known Member
Great stuff, thanks! Neither of us have much experience with psychedelics, and there is an intimidation factor, or a negative stigma, which would need to be overcome, especially on her side. Micro-dosing is an interesting angle, and I usually micro-dose with vaping cannabis as well. Looks like I've got some research to do! Thanks again :)
No problems my friend, I have a natural passion to want to help people live happier healthier lives in any way possible. It has always given me such a great feeling to think that I may have shared a little bit of information which has made any sort of positive difference to how somebody feels or lives.

I do really think this is a very promising route. It won't be many years now before or this stuff will be increasingly mainstream as with medical cannabis and the scientific proof will be undeniable about the benefits of psychedelics for for many different applications and purposes and people.

There's potentially an equal or greater therapeutic role that these substances can play for individuals and Society as with cannabis, except that psychedelics have generally been even more effectively suppressed and kept off the ball park for most people.

What is handy is that most people don't really know anything about psychedelics so I don't think it would take very long for some mainstream proof which will be coming increasingly, to really open people's minds up about this matter whereas with cannabis the stigma for those where it had set in, is a much harder tide to turn.

Exciting science going on with this stuff, and such an enormous universe of it all to explore and be tapped into.

It's like- the rest of the tree, of which cannanis is but a twig!

No exaggeration, that is how deprived society and mankind has been of it's natural right, for most people and places.


But anyway,, @Verax I just came back to post the link because I forgot about that mushroom one but also thanks very much for being so open and receptive to what I said because I never want to offend or patronize people or make out I know better or anything like that so thank you for that.
https://www.microdose4u.org

I think at the very least it would be worth shooting an email or filling out the contact form for these Mushroom people and saying have you had any feedback from migraine sufferers with your program blah blah you never know but they would be very well placed to have this sort of information right now possibly and may be on a humanitarian mission to study and learn and help and heal.

That's the other amazing thing about this subject is that the people interested and passionate about it are genuinely open and caring and selfless with a passion for helping humanity.

@TommyDee thanks man I really appreciate that as well. You never know regarding your wife like I say above, I don't think it would take much to open people up about this we just need to to give it a little time for for the evidence to be collected and presented in an increasingly clear and undeniable fashion.

And at the same time I'm sure there will eventually be a noticeable cascade of subjective and anecdotal stories and reports which it will be impossible to ignore or be Influenced by.

Even my 69 year old mum microdosed just recently. It had a profound effect on her and it really woke her up she took LSD 8 times many decades back but never since. But she took a larger dose than she personally needed to be considered a micro dose.

Still below a microdose for most people. The effect could be described as life-changing in a positive way as these substances generally are for most people despite the subconscious impression many people may have formed, even users.

No joke man I took this stuff for years but I always felt a little bit guilty about it I never realised how remarkably good this stuff potentially can be for you and in a 100-percent guilt-free birthright sense honestly.

So my mum's experience with micro dosing has been a real wake up call for her and will only bring about positive transformations in life now which is an automatic process.

Okay guys back to some vapor. Thanks for being open have a great night all round.:tup:
 
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YaMon

Vaping since 2010
For me it's about the experience, the ritual of vaping and every vape is different like a fine wine. Same strain, different vapes makes for great variety and fun.

@Alexis respectfully I disagree with your assessment of the Splinter Z after only using it for three days. I'm sorry your allergies did not agree with the Z, it's a phenomenal portable. Now if only you could get something like that to pocket size?
 

Alexis

Well-Known Member
@Alexis respectfully I disagree with your assessment of the Splinter Z after only using it for three days. I'm sorry your allergies did not agree with the Z, it's a phenomenal portable. Now if only you could get something like that to pocket size?
I respect that. I certainly am not saying the MV1 is better than the Z. I don't think I could make such a claim because I'm sure the consensus among those experienced, would strongly disagree.

They would shout me down from all angles I'm sure.

I just shared my own experience. I ran a good few bowls through the Z. At no point did I think wow this vape is great I love these effects.

The MV1, I just had the one Crucible one night and then one Crucible the following night that was enough to confirm I couldn't tolerate it but I absolutely loved the effects and the high that I got from that one Crucible each time. I felt very nicely medicated from such a moderate amount of herb.

I have tried a good few powerful devices now, and all I did was test 2 crucibles on low to medium heat settings. I liked the effects so much it really bothered me knowing it was not going to work for me. It would have made me really happy to keep it and make regular usage of it.

Like I waa saying, I really wasn't bothered that I couldn't keep the Z. I was just wishing for an easy sell and recoup, has the plan was to then try the MV1 i was unsure which to try first, I went Z as only 15 came to Vapefiend and it was a lot cheaper too vs MV1.

So that was just my own experience and feelings that's all I'm saying, and I'm not saying this in defence, as if we are disagreeing because I don't think that we are and I respect your experience with these models, which is a lot more than mine obviously.

No question I had a LOT more dialling to be done with the Z. The MV1 really surprised me how easy it was to get great performance straight out of the box.

I still have my MV1 packaged up, brand new, for sale, sitting downstairs. It's still in the ads here, but I need to relist it to make it clear what a sweet deal the whole package is, just as with most things in life I have struggled to have enough spare energy for it.

But I have been feeling very tempted to charge the Ghost and have a crack. Must..resist...must....resist! Hehe it's hard sometimes, the Flowerpot calls me and teases me from the living room, and the boxed MV1 hollers from the kitchen.

Great devices I would love to use.
So @YaMon I only disagree with you to say that that I don't think we do disagree exactly.

I mean, what you experience is what you experience nobody can agree or disagree with that, right? Mine was just different to that of many, for a variety of reasons I'm sure and I'm sure the experience could have been completely different as well depending on variables, or just given more time with each/either device.
 
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LesPlenty

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But I have been feeling very tempted to charge the Ghost and have a crack.
You may as well, MV1 is now permanently price reduced to US$225, too many problems, their IG has hinted on a new product about to be released.
Karma is great, I have given a few vape items away in the last year or so and not long ago was gifted a Sai complete with a mod and 4 or 5 different attys.
I took up vape collecting when I gave up smoking cigarettes, so that freed up over a hundred bucks a week for vapes.:myday:
A new Volcano Hybrid would be 8 or 9 weeks of smoking for me in the bad ol days.:myday:
 

YaMon

Vaping since 2010
I mean, what you experience is what you experience nobody can agree or disagree with that, right? Mine was just different to that of many, for a variety of reasons I'm sure and I'm sure the experience could have been completely different as well depending on variables, or just given more time with each/either device.
If I warmed my Z up, packed a fresh load and handed it to you all dialed in, I suspect you'd have a different experience. After all it does involve mucking around with a box mod.
 
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