How much do you consume : Per load/session/day

[Roger D]

Hello guys,
I had a week on the beach with some friends and I vaped about 1.2g per day.
I figured that I had to slow it down now since weed is kinda expensive here and I'm in the middle of my small homegrown stash. I grow indoors with a friend and we get serious quality, but not that much quantity, we always need more growing gear and its expensive.
The goal is to reduce my consumption slowly over time, lower my tolerance and see if I can get a better medication with that kind of scientific posology approach.

The strains are Special Queen #1 and Special Kush #1, some good basic hybrids, nothing fancy.

Here is exactly how much weed I got in every piece of glass in my stash. I'm gonna keep this up to date, If some of you guys want to report that kind of data of yours, I would appreciate.

All the small containers helps avoiding weighting at each dose. I load them all in once.
DC: Daily consumption | GL: Grams/Load | LD: Loads/Day

___DATE|_Medium containers|___________Small containers|_Total|_DC|_GL|LD
20/09/12 9,00 4,60 5,00 5,30 0,70 0,10 0,10 0,00 0,00 0,00 24,80 0,70 0,10 7
21/09/12 9,00 4,60 5,00 5,30 0,50 0,00 0,00 0,00 0,00 0,00 24,40 0,40 0,10 4
22/09/12 9,00 4,60 5,00 5,30 0,20 0,00 0,00 0,00 0,00 0,00 24,10 0,30 0,10 3

 

[HyDroid]

My average bowl is probably .075 grams or so, although because of a recent thread, I've been experimenting with pushing the average down to half of that. It works! .3-.5 g a day total might be a reasonable estimate.

But the occasional .1-.25 bowl can happen, too, so it's hard to say.

I found the following post in the following thread that addressed bringing tolerance down. I've never heard this exact model being described anywhere else but I wanted to mention it because it is somewhat consistent with my experience and explains some things that I noticed:

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/receptors.1150/

"Importance of Cannabinoid Receptors

[...]

Resetting Tolerence of a Long Time User

[...]

 

[PB88123]

I usually use a log vape and load it around .05 to .075 each time. I will vape .10 to .25 a day and it averages out to about 7 grams a month in the end.

 

[steiner666]

Yeah I'm at ≤.08g per load ~.2-.25g a day lately... 3.5g lasts 2weeks. Thx to the conservative load sizes I've been using per sesh I've cut my usage in half from where I was a couple months ago, but I still get just as baked. and this is with... decent but def not the dankest herb out there. If I had some premo buds all the time my usage would be even less no doubt.

 

[Vicki]

I'm using around 2 grams a week at the moment, but I expect that to drop to 1 gram per week very soon.

 

[Roger D]

How to Maximize Your Receptors

It is an important note to take that marijuana in small and moderate doses sends a signal to your body to increase the number of receptors it produces. When your receptors are increased it means that you are more sensitive to marijuana and need a smaller dose to get the desired effect.

[...]
; however few of them are aware of the ability to produce more receptors. An example of this phenomenon is in a new marijuana patient; often a first time user will experience little to no effect from the marijuana. Upon using a second time they notice a stronger effect from it. This is due to the fact that upon the first dose the body was signaled to increase its cannabinoid receptors and so was much more sensitive to the herb during the next dosage.

Very interesting, its making so much sense with my experiences with herb
I, also was dosing like 0.075-0.050 for at least a year but I changed my habits many times and the more I consume, the less stoned I feel. When I was consuming the less, I experienced more effects, including, more bad side effects, cause I was getting too much medicated with all that efficiency

I try to avoid being highly tolerant, but I don't wanna get hypersensitive neither. I'm going to find the perfect posology for me

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I vape approximately... I don't know, maybe .3 a day? If I'm hurting more, I need more, if I'm doing better, I need less (since I can manage my pain much better with opiates.)

An example of this phenomenon is in a new marijuana patient; often a first time user will experience little to no effect from the marijuana. Upon using a second time they notice a stronger effect from it.

I have noticed that all of the people that "don't get high their first time" don't know how to inhale properly and just hold it in their mouth/throat without going down all the way to the lungs. An "example" of this happening would happen a lot of the time, right? Because I've shown people how to inhale properly before letting them try it for the first time in their life, and it totally works. This whole "growing receptors" thing definitely needs a source, and a credible one at that.

There was another bit that sounded kinda silly to me,

When your cannabinoid receptors are up-regulated not only will you be more sensitive to cannabis but you will more easily experience natural highs.

I was under the impression that tolerance build up (at least in the case of opiates) is thought to occur in part due to down-regulation of receptors... well of COURSE you're going to be more sensitive if your receptors are up-regulated (what happens when you stop your external cannabinoid intake). I thought that "forced up-regulation" was possible through external means as well (inhibition of certain enzymes, for example CYP2D6).

Always open for discussion and learning new things

 

[steiner666]

I vape approximately... I don't know, maybe .3 a day? If I'm hurting more, I need more, if I'm doing better, I need less (since I can manage my pain much better with opiates.)





I have noticed that all of the people that "don't get high their first time" don't know how to inhale properly and just hold it in their mouth/throat without going down all the way to the lungs. An "example" of this happening would happen a lot of the time, right? Because I've shown people how to inhale properly before letting them try it for the first time in their life, and it totally works. This whole "growing receptors" thing definitely needs a source, and a credible one at that.

I was one of the ppl who had a hard time getting stoned the first... half a dozen or so times that i tried it. I know for a fact that i was inhaling properly, straight and deep into the lungs, and i know the herb was good. i had my stoner friends all around me watching to make sure i was doing it right, trying diff types of herb, diff pipes, bongs, papers. then one day it just happened, on a regular ass joint at that.

i'm no doctor, biologist, or any sort of scientist, and i dont have "credible" sources or experimental data to share to back it up, but what that article says about the up-regulating of the receptors definitely explains my experiences better than anything else i've read to date.

 

[Slightly Medicated]

I go through about 1/2oz in a weeks time. In general about .25 grams a session. Maybe 8-12 sessions a day depending on how long I am up and various factors.

 

[Roger D]

Very various consumers profiles around here ! And what about you consistency over time ?
My consumption rate is like a Russian mountain, that's why I'm keeping this file

Today I switched to 70mg by bowl. I'm trying to wait as long as possible between my two small balloons when I'm on the volcano, so it's more like a half dose a time. I'm already feeling a different high.

I, also, like I always did, don't vape the herb to it's max. I think I'm getting like 60% of the actives. I save the AVB to make some glycerol alcohol tincture. I'll do it when I'll have vaped all my homegrown stash.


http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-09/plausibility-test-homeopathic-medicine

Based on this some of us guys are homeopathic cannabis users

 

[Slightly Medicated]

Based on this some of us guys are homeopathic cannabis users

I never had homeopathic medicine or remedies work for me at all. Particular "homeopathic medicine" where they dilute the solution with water so much that there is not really any of the original ingredient left. They claim that the water has a "memory" so that you can still get the effects.

You can read about it form the wiki here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy

In particular I am talking about solutions that dilute to 10-200 parts per million dilution rates. At that point in time you are just consuming water. At my local vitamin store I finally had to tell the women not to recommend any homeopathic medicines for me.

Honestly, I don't think it is the same as Homeopathy. I think it just has to do with your personal body. I am someone who has to take more of anything. For example when I was going under for surgery they had to increase my dose of anesthetic because the "recommended" does was not working.

It also depends on what you are medicating for. I medicate for OCD and pain. So I have a constantly level of "medicated" to help with my OCD and when I have pain I have to "spike" my dose in order to affect the pain.

 

[Roger D]

Oh yeah you're absolutely right, the hyper diluted solutions without any actives left are bullshit.
Here, we have some guys who need really small amount to medicate, that's why I made the unlucky comparison with homeopathy which is even more diluted, so weak, in fact, that's practically useless.

That said, the idea that you can reduce your doses and improve/change your high is quite good, in fact

I just noticed that some effects of the plant are stronger when you take less on the long run and have a low tolerance.
Its a different kind of medication when you take a lot and have a high tolerance. I like big clouds also

Heavy dosages seems more appropriate for pain treatment, small doses increases appetite.. To be continued

We still have so much to discover about cannabis posology, on the short, middle and long therm

 

[weedemon]

I think i consume about 0.5-1.2 grams a day on average. depends on my day.

so far today I have used 0.3g or so. but after work I will consume another 0.2

 

[lwien]

Full bowl holds about 0.025 gr. (Purple Days). I vape every single night, and a little bit less than one bowl does me just fine. One gram lasts me about a month and half.

 

[Yoshi]

I vape around .2-.3 grams in a session, twice a day, so about .4-.6 a day.

 

[J Matthews]

i vape around .5 per day, about the same as yoshi i'd say. used to do more but realized i didnt need it and it wasn't making me feel any better.

 

[Roger D]

Thanks for the participation and all the data

The "how much times per day" is very interesting too. Some of you are without THC a part of the day ? I try to distribute equally the taking through the day. Vs a big hit after the day, that's an interesting question.


I'm currently limiting myself at a really constant dosage : I inflate (at the same size) my two 42cm solid valve balloons at 190°c then 226°c with a 70mg bowl, 5 times a day.
Feeling higher and higher AND using less stuff. Awesome. Better sleep, better breathing..

The only miss is the big clouds I can get with fat 200mg+ loads. I still get decent vapors.
I weight once a day, before I go to sleep. I prepare my first bowl and weight 70mg in 4 containers, so on the day, I go thru it without any complications compared to before. Take me 5 minutes a day, and I feel like my medication is really under control for the first time.

May seems tough to keep it this way but I'm pretty sure its just a good habit to take.
I will need 11 grams per months. So I need to crop at least 2*132 grams per year, since I grow with a friend 50-50. That's totally possible with our 250w hps

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

So I went to the LHS earlier and bought a small scale... took the rest of my stash which I estimated at a solid 3 days worth of medication and weighed it out. Came back at .9 on the dot, so 3 days of that is .3 like I said earlier. Crazy how close I was...

 

[Vicki]

I'm using around 2 grams a week at the moment, but I expect that to drop to 1 gram per week very soon.

I realized this is per "load" or per "day." It's easier to figure it out by the day for me. So, based on 2 grams a week, I'm using 0.28 grams per day. Tomorrow, I'll be dropping down to 1 gram per week, or 0.14 grams per day. I need to start keeping track of how many trenches I have per day too, I know it's at least 3.

Sorry I didn't properly answer the question presented the first time.

 

[Roger D]

Vicky, thanks for the precisions ! About your posology change, you don't want to do this from a day to the other, I would do it slow to smooth the change, it's not that easy, especially if you really need your medication.

Quetzalcoatl, consistent ! Maybe if you weight it daily, you'll have surprises ?

My daily needs are around .5, under that, it's tough to sleep. It was a bit frustrating for me to keep it at .35/day, so I stopped limiting the daily intake. Things works differently for everyone, and this is also changing over time, I'm sure that research and data collection is gonna end up in some good

I promised myself to keep track of my consumption, so here we go. I just got my brand new professional calibration weight for my lab scale, so I can't get more accurate.
I like/have to be medicated almost all the time. My average load is around .08

20.09 0,70
21.09 0,40
22.09 0,50
23.09 0,35
24.09 0,35
25.09 0,35
26.09 0,55
27.09 0,49
28.09 0,68

 

[Ingjr]

OK, I honestly don't know how you can even get a hit on .1 grams. I'm definately doing something wrong.

 

[lwien]

OK, I honestly don't know how you can even get a hit on .1 grams. I'm definately doing something wrong.

I don't know if you're doing something wrong, but I get 5 hits from 0.025g.

Of course, a lot of it has to do with many things:

Size of hit
Dryness of bud
Quality of bud
Size of bowl
Type of vape (bag versus whip versus direct draw)
Temperature
Fineness of grind

 

[Ingjr]

I've convinced myself it's my vaporizer. It's a Vaporite Solo and gives massive clouds but really eats the product. Probably a combo of me and the vapo. Anyhow, a new vape can't be all bad, can it?

 

[lwien]

Anyhow, a new vape can't be all bad, can it?

A new vape "can" be almost all bad and an old vape "can" be almost all good, eh?

 

[steiner666]

Thanks for the participation and all the data

The "how much times per day" is very interesting too. Some of you are without THC a part of the day ? I try to distribute equally the taking through the day. Vs a big hit after the day, that's an interesting question.

Yeah I usually dont vape until about dusk. I wake up and take care of business for the day, like work and working-out and walking the dog or going to the store or whatevers on the agenda, and then come home and eat, shower, and sit down and vape and veg out for the rest of the night. On some weekends im just lazy and vape throughout the entire day and by the end of the day i feel so burnout and groggy and just blah.

I need so much time between doses in order for them to feel right to me. Sure, I usually vape 2x an evening/night, usually once at like 6-7 and again at 10-11, but thats about as many consecutive sessions as i like to do. Getting sleep and some physical exertion during receptor reset times seems to rly help even more, so not vaping during the busiest parts of my day is a no-brainer choice for me, save the fun for when i'm free to space out and do nothing.