How much Canabutter should you get?

[1DMF]

Hi,

I made some peanut butter cookies last week, from 10 hours of canabutter production.

I put 14g (1/2 oz) finely sieved ABV into 200g of crunchy peanut butter and left over a bain-marie for 10 hours.

I then put it into a strainer and left to drip out the oil into a bowl.

I barley got a grams worth of oil, I then put that into another 200g of peanut butter to make the actual cookies.

The cookies tasted lovely, but the affect was pretty mild!

Now I think part of my problem was peanut butter oil is so thick, it could barely leak out of the strainer (I cooked another batch with the strained pulp so as to not waste the goodness!)

So I'm thinking next time I need to use plain ole unsalted butter so it is able to pass through the tight mesh in the strainer?

If so how much strained oil should you get from how much butter?

Was my technique good, just the peanut butter too thick, or was it never going to work?

 

[zor]

I'm confused....you dissolved the ABV into peanut butter and then let it drip through a strainer to collect ~1 gram of oil which you then added to another batch of clean peanut butter? Why do it this way instead of using the original 200g of crunchy peanut butter?

If I understand correctly, you only used the strained oil in your cookies? If so then you've probably lost the vast majority of the psychoactives, they're mostly in the peanut butter (that is, there's no saying what you're getting from that "oil", your ABV+peanut butter solution ought to be pretty homogeneous after the bain-marie).

Are you straining to remove the particulates and plant matter? If that's your goal then yeah, you'll need something that is liquid at a lower temperature so that you can get better fluid flow. I'd say forgo the straining for now, you'll potentially experience undesirable flavors from the ABV but texture ought to be minimal if you pulverize the ABV into powder. See if you can achieve a sufficiently satisfying effect baseline from this, then start optimizing it by trying to improve flavor or similar.

 

[momofthegoons]

I'm thinking this method isn't going to work. I agree with @zor that the majority of your actives were left in the peanut butter. I wouldn't have tried to strain it.

The problem with that is that you get all the hemp fiber that often gives nausea. So my suggestion would be to use butter next time. Much easier to strain and more actives are left in the product you use.

 

[Ace of Space]

Yeah, like @momofthegoons said, use butter, or better yet, coconut oil or any quality vegetabe oil really.
The peanutbutter does have a high oil content, that theoretically would extract the actives, but it also has a very high solids content that makes it almost impossible to extract the oil (and the actives in the oil) from the peanutbutter through a strainer.

 

[1DMF]

I was trying to remove the awful taste ABV imparts by trying to make peanut-cana-oil , but I didn't realise quite how big peanut oil molecules were so I was getting bugger all out of the strainer.

I knew I was onto something, because a couple of the cookies with a bowl in My solo, and I was definitely getting an effect, but it was more of an enhancement to the vape session, rather than a hit in its own right.

That's why I made a batch with the pulp left in the strainer, as I had a feeling most of the goodies was still in it!

I think I'll use normal butter next time, only will have to find another recipe as the peanut butter cookies only required 200g of peanut butter, 175g of caster sugar, a pinch of salt and an egg!

No butter required in that recipe

And I was making peanut butter cookies to mask the ABV taste, I even replaced the pinch of salt for a couple of handfuls of salted peanuts, seriously yummy cookies, just need to get the magic ingredients right!

Oh, well gonna take a few weeks to gather enough ABV to try again.

Appreciate your input.

 

[momofthegoons]

I was trying to remove the awful taste ABV imparts by trying to make peanut-cana-oil ,

One thing you could try to do to get rid of the taste is to water cure your abv prior to using it. This thread
explains the process. It's done with schwag, but the same process works for abv.

I also found this thread by the same member on abv and peanut butter.

 

[1DMF]

@momofthegoons thanks for the link, appreciated, looks like I need to be investigating coconut oil instead, and not the hydrogenated type!

I like coconut, so perhaps a nice coconut ring cake with icing sugar drizzle next time

 

[kellya86]

Thought I'd try to revive this a bit.

I'm about to do some avb coconut oil for first time. I assume the oil won't degrade over time, if stored properly of course.

@1DMF did you have any luck finding the right oil here in uk? If so where and what.?

Did you try the water cure first.? If so, did it help?
Got so much avb from 3 months vaping.

 

[1DMF]

Nope, Nope & Nope!

I don't have enough ABV for cooking again yet, so would be good if you do a batch and let us know.

I think the coconut oil is the way to go and IIRC you want the non-hydrogenated type.

 

[kellya86]

Got it, I will research more.

 

[ReggieB]

coconut oil will last a long time and sainsburys carry it, they do a 4.50 and 6 quid tub. The 4.50 tubs are fine but you can get cheaper on ebay/amazon.