Hi I was curious about if vaporizers can get you really high. I'm new to smoking and considering getting a flowermate to switch to vaping but I'm afraid that I'm not gonna like it. When I smoke, I like to get really high. Does vaping give a body high or a head high or both? I've seen people say both. On a scale of 1-10, how high would you say it gets you? Although it's healthier, which has a better high, smoking or vaping?
How high can a vaporizer really get you?
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Alan Partridge
Smell my cheese
On a scale of 1-10, I can get to 11.
Body and head high.
You get way more THC through vaping.
Don't mix up the MJ high with the general feeling of grogginess you get from smoking... that is something you'll miss at first. There is an adjustment period, but when I got the Mighty I was over that in a day.
Body and head high.
You get way more THC through vaping.
Don't mix up the MJ high with the general feeling of grogginess you get from smoking... that is something you'll miss at first. There is an adjustment period, but when I got the Mighty I was over that in a day.
Will all portable vaporizers work the same? I want to get the flowermate mini because I don't have too much to spend but I'm afraid I'll get something not that great.
Grim Chiclets
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Agreed, vaping gets me infinitely more high.
Fucked combustion just over 2 years ago, would rather quit than smoke again.
bobbylite
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I was in the same boat as you...bongs and blunts was all I smoked for years.
Now that I've been vaping for about a month now... I can tell you that you get stoned just the same as combusting.
Plus .. You don't reek like smoke... And a little bit goes alongway. I remember seeing so much wasted herb floating in my bong water
With a vape...nothing is wasted.
Get one.. You will not regret it.
Check out the arizer air.. Couple more dollars than the flower mini you are looking at. This is my first vape and I love it.
Now that I've been vaping for about a month now... I can tell you that you get stoned just the same as combusting.
Plus .. You don't reek like smoke... And a little bit goes alongway. I remember seeing so much wasted herb floating in my bong water
With a vape...nothing is wasted.
Get one.. You will not regret it.
Check out the arizer air.. Couple more dollars than the flower mini you are looking at. This is my first vape and I love it.
Alan Partridge
Smell my cheese
They don't all perform the same, but they will all get the job done. I got a Titan 2 for 20 odd quid- not the greatest but it works, and I would pick that over smoking any day. I don't have a Flowermate but I'm sure it will do the job just fine. There's a whole thread dedicated to it.
Have you ever used the flowermate or have you heard anything about it?I was in the same boat as you...bongs and blunts was all I smoked for years.
Now that I've been vaping for about a month now... I can tell you that you get stoned just the same as combusting.
Plus .. You don't reek like smoke... And a little bit goes alongway. I remember seeing so much wasted herb floating in my bong water
With a vape...nothing is wasted.
Get one.. You will not regret it.
Check out the arizer air.. Couple more dollars than the flower mini you are looking at. This is my first vape and I love it.
I'll have to find that thread thanks.
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Grim Chiclets
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For a portable, generally the Solo/Air, VaporGenie, Lotus, and Pax are popular among beginner and advanced vapers alike, and can be had at a relatively low price (though I personally don't like the Pax)
As for a desktop/at-home unit- I'd recommend a blemished Buddha or Surfer from 7th Floor's website, the Vapolution 2, ExtremeQ, or maybe a log, like an E-Nano or Underdog.
There are definitely a lot of choices to choose from, and this list is just the more inexpensive vapes I could think of.
Also I have read/heard that the Flowermate isn't the worst out there..
As for a desktop/at-home unit- I'd recommend a blemished Buddha or Surfer from 7th Floor's website, the Vapolution 2, ExtremeQ, or maybe a log, like an E-Nano or Underdog.
There are definitely a lot of choices to choose from, and this list is just the more inexpensive vapes I could think of.
Also I have read/heard that the Flowermate isn't the worst out there..
Does vaping give a head or body high? I heard the temperature effects this but I don't know if it's true.
little maggie
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If a desktop will work the Vapolution 2 is $99. You can get the Arizer EQ for a little more which is the most powerful vaporizer I have or at least it gets me higher than I want to be.
I have the flowermate mini and although I don't use it much I think it's ok for a beginning vape. There are definitely worse vaporizers out there. The solo- which can be found for not too much over $100 is better.
Check out the flowermate thread- they'll be able to answer questions about how the mini works for them.
As for the kind of high I think it depends more on what you're vaping not the temperature.
I have the flowermate mini and although I don't use it much I think it's ok for a beginning vape. There are definitely worse vaporizers out there. The solo- which can be found for not too much over $100 is better.
Check out the flowermate thread- they'll be able to answer questions about how the mini works for them.
As for the kind of high I think it depends more on what you're vaping not the temperature.
Grim Chiclets
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Below I posted a chart of common actives in your herb, and the temperatures required to boil them- so yes, how and what kind of high you get are determined heavily on temperature; so it is entirely possible to control your intake by playing around with it a little.
@little maggie is totally right as well, the product matters more than the vape, so if all herb is the same to you when you smoke, you're in for a wild ride
@little maggie is totally right as well, the product matters more than the vape, so if all herb is the same to you when you smoke, you're in for a wild ride
MoltenTiger
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According to my mate who was at a festival on quality MDMA for the weekend, the vape high we shared last night via my modded EQ was the best high he'd ever had.
I think the secret lies somewhere in moderation (keeping tolerance low) and having really good cannabis. I got him to pick up a half of "bangarang" (a heavy sativa) from my old hometown and bring it down for me.
We shared about 1g, if that, and started tripping - subtle visuals, intense head high but energised body high, and an extremely elevated mood. So high.
I've never got that high from smoking (and I've smoked a disturbing amount of bud), as someone said it makes you groggy and seems to restrict the psychoactive effect to some extent.
It's pretty hard to have as much active chemical from raw plant material without processing it than what can be done with a good vaporiser.
As my mate exclaimed a few hours in, when he found a bong he had to dispose of (a plastic bottle/garden hose jig) - what a disgusting and replaced piece of technology.
I feel the same way about my nice scientific bongs and everyday I feel the benefits of not smoking, and not mixing tobacco with my high.
Vaping is the best. Vape bonging is even better
I think the secret lies somewhere in moderation (keeping tolerance low) and having really good cannabis. I got him to pick up a half of "bangarang" (a heavy sativa) from my old hometown and bring it down for me.
We shared about 1g, if that, and started tripping - subtle visuals, intense head high but energised body high, and an extremely elevated mood. So high.
I've never got that high from smoking (and I've smoked a disturbing amount of bud), as someone said it makes you groggy and seems to restrict the psychoactive effect to some extent.
It's pretty hard to have as much active chemical from raw plant material without processing it than what can be done with a good vaporiser.
As my mate exclaimed a few hours in, when he found a bong he had to dispose of (a plastic bottle/garden hose jig) - what a disgusting and replaced piece of technology.
I feel the same way about my nice scientific bongs and everyday I feel the benefits of not smoking, and not mixing tobacco with my high.
Vaping is the best. Vape bonging is even better
Do you need to get a different mouthpiece to vape with a bong or could you just put it in the stem and pull?According to my mate who was at a festival on quality MDMA for the weekend, the vape high we shared last night via my modded EQ was the best high he'd ever had.
I think the secret lies somewhere in moderation (keeping tolerance low) and having really good cannabis. I got him to pick up a half of "bangarang" (a heavy sativa) from my old hometown and bring it down for me.
We shared about 1g, if that, and started tripping - subtle visuals, intense head high but energised body high, and an extremely elevated mood. So high.
I've never got that high from smoking (and I've smoked a disturbing amount of bud), as someone said it makes you groggy and seems to restrict the psychoactive effect to some extent.
It's pretty hard to have as much active chemical from raw plant material without processing it than what can be done with a good vaporiser.
As my mate exclaimed a few hours in, when he found a bong he had to dispose of (a plastic bottle/garden hose jig) - what a disgusting and replaced piece of technology.
I feel the same way about my nice scientific bongs and everyday I feel the benefits of not smoking, and not mixing tobacco with my high.
Vaping is the best. Vape bonging is even better
So if you go to the highest temperature do you get all the effects or just the one at that temperature?Below I posted a chart of common actives in your herb, and the temperatures required to boil them- so yes, how and what kind of high you get are determined heavily on temperature; so it is entirely possible to control your intake by playing around with it a little.
@little maggie is totally right as well, the product matters more than the vape, so if all herb is the same to you when you smoke, you're in for a wild ride
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CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
First off you need to stop the combusting (smoking). Just strictly vaporize because if you do both vaporizing won't get you medicated enough. After 2 to 3 weeks you won't want to smoke again. Also vaporize high temperatures because you are used to the harshness of smoking.
A desk top probably would be something that would be get you more medicated than a portable.
I would suggest the Solo. You can use it as a desk top as well as portable. It is well made unlike some of the portable vaporizers out there. It gives your vapor good flavor and saves on the cannabis budget because you don't use much to get the job done.
The Arizer Air is also a quality vaporizer. It's the Solo's little sister.
I don't have the Flowermate.
A desk top probably would be something that would be get you more medicated than a portable.
I would suggest the Solo. You can use it as a desk top as well as portable. It is well made unlike some of the portable vaporizers out there. It gives your vapor good flavor and saves on the cannabis budget because you don't use much to get the job done.
The Arizer Air is also a quality vaporizer. It's the Solo's little sister.
I don't have the Flowermate.
MoltenTiger
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It depends on the model, but basically you just plug the vape into the inlet of the bong. So if it's a whip vape, you attach the whip to where the bowl on a bong is. If it's a portable device, or a log vape, you could plug it directly in.
Running it through water means you can have massive hits without drying out your throat as badly as a direct draw. Direct draw is good, but if you want to get super high I definitely think via bong is the way to go.
I can't specifically reccomend a vape in your price range, not having much personal experience, but based on what I've seen elswhere the recommendations that you try to save up a little bit more and get an Arizer portable is spot on.
I however can say that a vaporizer can get you at least as high as smoking. Source: I'm right on the edge of being too high. And the vape can definitely get me to "too high". Never was able to get "too high" while smoking personally.
I however can say that a vaporizer can get you at least as high as smoking. Source: I'm right on the edge of being too high. And the vape can definitely get me to "too high". Never was able to get "too high" while smoking personally.
Why would a desktop be better than a portable? It can heat up more? Also if you could either pick one, which would you pick, the solo or the arizer air?
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
A desk top unit would be more powerful. I have a couple of log vaporizers (Enano) they plug in and more powerful than the Solo.
I can't say if the Solo is more powerful than the flowermate because I don't have a FF. I'm sure the Solo will last you longer than the Flowermate. If I had to choose between the Solo and the Air, I would choose the Solo. I have several portables and the Solo is my fav.
The Solo came out in 2011 and just upgraded a couple years ago. Read up on the Solo and the Air.
My original Solo is 3 years old and still has 50 min of battery life. It's the older model Solo, it hasn't been upgraded. My other Solo I bought 2 years ago and the battery has an hour of life left.
The batteries can be changed by the owner eventually if you chose to do so. There is a video showing you how. You can buy a battery through several outlets online - Puffitup or Planetvape. Arizer also sells them for more money.
Do your homework and read up on several vaporizers that you are interested in.
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Go to Puffiup and talk with Randy, let him know you are an FCer. He will treat you right. You probably could get one for $150 plus a few extras. Plus free shipping.
I can't say if the Solo is more powerful than the flowermate because I don't have a FF. I'm sure the Solo will last you longer than the Flowermate. If I had to choose between the Solo and the Air, I would choose the Solo. I have several portables and the Solo is my fav.
The Solo came out in 2011 and just upgraded a couple years ago. Read up on the Solo and the Air.
My original Solo is 3 years old and still has 50 min of battery life. It's the older model Solo, it hasn't been upgraded. My other Solo I bought 2 years ago and the battery has an hour of life left.
The batteries can be changed by the owner eventually if you chose to do so. There is a video showing you how. You can buy a battery through several outlets online - Puffitup or Planetvape. Arizer also sells them for more money.
Do your homework and read up on several vaporizers that you are interested in.
EDIT
Go to Puffiup and talk with Randy, let him know you are an FCer. He will treat you right. You probably could get one for $150 plus a few extras. Plus free shipping.
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I'm seeing the arizers for over $200 are these the right ones? I'm also seeing ones for around $150.
bluenavey00
Arizer Air Aficionado
Honestly just get a vape and you will get as high as you could ever dream of.
I was also unsure when getting a vape. When I got the Arizer Air I didn't even intend to completely fuck combustion. It just turned out that the vape was better in soooooo many ways that I wasn't even tempted to combust.
13 months combustion free today!
I was also unsure when getting a vape. When I got the Arizer Air I didn't even intend to completely fuck combustion. It just turned out that the vape was better in soooooo many ways that I wasn't even tempted to combust.
13 months combustion free today!
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I'm in the boat that believes combustion gets you "higher"....At least in the intoxication sense. Ive consumed for 15+ years, converted to vaporizing last year and kicked combustion completely. BUT, even vaporbonging with desktops doesn't give me the facemelting hits a bong snap will.
I believe a lot of it is in delivery, while vaporizing the effects tend to have a creeping effect robbing you of the instant satisfaction a nice (combusted) rip delivers. Another point of contention is efficiency, vaping is undeniably more efficient but much slower at releasing actives. If you combust you reach the top end of the actives being released simultaneously. Vaporizing stretches out the delivery.
I prefer to think of it in terms of cars. Vaporizers are more fuel efficient but tend to have less power. There's quite a bit of middle ground between the smart car and monster truck however.
Something else I've noticed is I haven't been able to exceed what I would consider a 7-8 off of vaporizing strait flower. My 7-8 isn't based on that ridiculous reddit write up where they claim closed eye visuals and all that nonsense either lol.. If I want to get out there I break out a nail these days. I've converted to vaporization because of health, discretion, interest in the tech and to save money. If I were solely interested in getting "fucked up" I'd never of bothered buying my own vape(s).
I believe a lot of it is in delivery, while vaporizing the effects tend to have a creeping effect robbing you of the instant satisfaction a nice (combusted) rip delivers. Another point of contention is efficiency, vaping is undeniably more efficient but much slower at releasing actives. If you combust you reach the top end of the actives being released simultaneously. Vaporizing stretches out the delivery.
I prefer to think of it in terms of cars. Vaporizers are more fuel efficient but tend to have less power. There's quite a bit of middle ground between the smart car and monster truck however.
Something else I've noticed is I haven't been able to exceed what I would consider a 7-8 off of vaporizing strait flower. My 7-8 isn't based on that ridiculous reddit write up where they claim closed eye visuals and all that nonsense either lol.. If I want to get out there I break out a nail these days. I've converted to vaporization because of health, discretion, interest in the tech and to save money. If I were solely interested in getting "fucked up" I'd never of bothered buying my own vape(s).
Where did you get yours from? I'm seeing all different prices for it, some closer to $250, some closer to $150.Honestly just get a vape and you will get as high as you could ever dream of.
I was also unsure when getting a vape. When I got the Arizer Air I didn't even intend to completely fuck combustion. It just turned out that the vape was better in soooooo many ways that I wasn't even tempted to combust.
13 months combustion free today!
woolspinner
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I do find temperature and/or strain control the head v. body high.
Because I was such a lightweight to begin with, I think I really noticed what I was not missing from combustion: the woozy/dizzy/unable to focus high from the chemicals in the combustion smoke. Now I just enjoy the effects of the actual cannabinoids. Much clearer high. More functional.
BTW if you act very very quickly and go to vapeusa.com, they still have a few DaVinci Ascent (portable) and 7th floor Super (or was it Silver?) Surfers (desktop) for sale on closeout. Hard to find those two items at such a low price new. Store is closing, so when they are gone, they are gone.
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