How healthy is vaping - irritated lungs etc.

[kellya86]

Then don't buy a solo. It won't stick. The eq is 140 quid and the ddave 18mm kit is 20 quid. UK pounds. This is your best option. It produces breathtaking, delicious vapour. It is possible to fill up bags and take them out with you in a car if you go somewhere. The whip is better though. And I just vape before I go. I find the vape high lasts much longer than smoking it.

And I had no intention of buying any mods or spared or new vapes. At first.
When you start saving money you will soon start planning to spend it. Maybe just a silicone whip at first. Then it gets you.....

 

[dos equis]

Sorry for 'hijacking' this thread but I would like to ask if anyone has experienced the opposite when it comes to vaping.
I never had a big problem with smoking and never had any issues with my lungs but I switched to vaping because it seemed a lot nicer. I have been vaping ever since, probably for around 2 years now.

Lately whenever I vape my lungs will get really irritated and congested to the point where I wheeze when I breathe. I get a bad cough and my lungs are so congested that it gets hard to sleep. The symptoms will be gone the next day. If I smoke from a pipe though I am completely fine. This is with the same amounts of the same product. My vaporizer is an E-Nano. I normally vape hash packed in cotton and I have never had this issue until recently.

 

[ReggieB]

@joker that's why I suggested watching some videos, suggestions are great but if you have to mess around more than you're prepared to or the experience is drastically different from what you expected then it's definitely not what you want and whilst some stores etc. are promoting their industry, it still pays to watch the videos maybe with the sound down, so you watch how they interact with the units.

Don't let @kellya86 put you off, Like every hobby out there you can spend lots or spend wise, or spend lots and wise

 

[kellya86]

I hardly think iv been putting him off, maybe you should read the previous posts.

I was mearly warning him of the possibility of vas.

@dos equis, I can't say I can relate to that. Maybe you should see your doc just to rule out the possibility of any underlying issues. Maybe you have a chest infection that would require a course of antibiotics

 

[ReggieB]

@kellya86 I thought the big cheesy grin smiley at the end of that sentence might've been a clue that I wasn't being serious, pretty much every hobby out there will have you spending money and lots of it if you've got it to spare

 

[His_Highness]

Disclaimer: Vaping is different for everyone and your mileage may vary....

I'm an ex-smoker of everything and the Solo is my daily driver. I've been fortunate to have been able to try many different vapes and for sure, some are heavier hitters out of the box BUT..... temp level 7 and my bubbler are the equalizer. IMO I can get just as big a rip this way as the heavier hitters do right out of the box. With the Solo I can sip or heavy hit but some of the others just heavy hit.

This thread made mention of vaporizing causing an increase in the amounts used. I'm in the opposite camp....way opposite. The Solo paid for itself and then some after the first ounce I vaped with it.

Another consideration is whether the vape sips or slurps the weed. Some of the bigger hitters will go through your stash at almost double the rate BUT even doubling the rate should be well under the combustion rate. Some folks NEED the visual feedback and bigger clouds to FEEL like they are getting it done.

The two things that can fool you in terms of amount to use are:
- Just because you don't see a huge vapor cloud doesn't mean the goodies are gone. Grab a flashlight and exhale over the beam and you'll see what I mean.
- There is a lag between vaping and when the ultimate buzz-height is reached. This can give you the impression you need to vape more when you don't.

Recently someone told me they are only getting 4-6 hits per Solo fill. When we hung out I showed him I was getting 12 to 16 hits per fill and we both agreed that 4 hits, if re-inhaled was sufficient for a buzz. Turned out he was vaping at level 3 and sometimes level 4 but once the cloud wasn't strongly visible he dumped the ABV. Long story short...He's now a convert and understands he can jack the temp up to keep the clouds coming.

@joker - Welcome! No matter which direction you take in your vaporizing...you've come to the right place and the right people.

 

[dos equis]

@dos equis, I can't say I can relate to that. Maybe you should see your doc just to rule out the possibility of any underlying issues. Maybe you have a chest infection that would require a course of antibiotics

If it doesn't stop happening that might be a good idea, although with a chest infection my experience is that any type of vaping or smoking is pretty much impossible.

I searched around a bit and found that some people have experienced the same issue and most say it's related to the heat and dryness of vapor. I am gonna retrieve my F-bomb from a friend to add some water in the mix to see if that will make it less harsh on my lungs.

 

[kellya86]

@ReggieB, sometimes I miss the obvious. Sorry.

I wonder what sort of percentage of people here run vapour through water.
I personally don't, and don't see the need to, everyone is different of course.

 

[joker]

Done at 15:00 most likely going for an Extreme Q.. can't wait. Quitting cigs again.. good luck to me at work today or I should say good luck to colleagues

 

[kellya86]

Great choice I promise you won't regret it.

The first couple days at work, with no tobacco, is the worst.
The times I wanted to smoke, (like after my lunch or tea), I would come on here and read some posts or make some. By that time it was back to work time and the moment had passed.
I'm not saying it's easy, it's not.

I wish you the very best of luck in banishing evil tobacco from your life.

I would now advise you check out the ddave mod thread to see your options for future modding. If funds allow I would opt to buy the kit now.

 

[joker]

Got it!

I actually went to a store where you could try out the vaporizers they have (I love this country sometimes) and there was a coffeeshop to buy the weed next door

I tried the Extreme Q at 190 degrees with 0.2 gram. The guy who helped me turned it up to 200 after but said it was on the high side and 190 is usually fine.

He also told me to inhale really slowly, if I saw the weed move in the 'cabin' he said I was overdoing it already. I mostly took 10 second hits and took about 15 of them in a 10 minute time span, not sure if this was alright. I barely saw any vapor except the last 3 hits but all hits combined was definately way less than 1 normal hit from a joint. I don't really cared so much for that though, it's nice to have clouds but if it works it works. 5-10 minutes later I was stoned out of my mind and giggling while I was purchasing my own Extreme Q. Uncomfortable trip home through Amsterdam, it feels like years passed already and my head was 10x larger than usual. But barely any dry mouth! Yay.

Is there a list of tips/tricks to follow?

I used the tube not the balloon. I don't like using a balloon at all but the guy said it is more efficient.

I prefer to spread out my session as long as possible. I used to roll a joint with 0.3 gram and just smoke it in 2-3 hours time very slowly. How long can I leave in the weed before it goes 'bad' without taking hits? Can I just put in line 0.1 gram and do 30 min with it (take a hit every 3 min?), refill and continue like that all day?

Thanks again for everything! I will definately buy the ddave mod when I got some spare change.\

At the moment I cleaned the whip and now have the Q on for 20 minutes with the cyclone bowl on it. It's safe to use after I waited 20 minutes, correct? It still smells kind of funny ('fabricy') but I assume I can use it safely now, I waited 45 minutes.

 

[kellya86]

Congratulations on your purchase. Fan speed one at 220 for 10 mins should sterilise and manufacturing residue.

200 is not especially high. The temp on the screen is not the temp of your herb, its the temp of the position of the sensor. At 200 I estimate a true temp of 185, but it all depends on how much heat soak has happened. You will get a feel for it with time.

I would recommend you try an elbow pack. Although I always enjoyed a cyclone session with my stock setup. Pre heat is very important. And let you weed sit in the cyclone to perculate a bit between draws. Wait till you can see it start to condensate on the glass.

 

[joker]

Oh I only turned it on without a fan on.. I already smoked from it hope it's not a problem.

They recommend to put the bowl full but that's quite a lot I think.. seems like 0.4 gram to me which is way too much, I just like to smoke 0.1 max 0.2 at a time. Trying a balloon now. Is it possible to fill a balloon and just keep it closed for hours and take a hit sometimes? Or does something happen with the vapor? That would be ideal for me - the whip you can barely inhale and it takes way too long for me to take a hit.

 

[ReggieB]

Congrats @joker

 

[Chill Dude]

@joker congrats on the purchase of your first vape. I know you'll have a lot of good times with your new friend. That said, I think you will get better responses to your specific questions if you posted them in the Extreme Q thread. Some of those guys know the device very well and will be able to help with all your questions and concerns.

 

[kellya86]

I never mind loading a full bowl, I just vape it over the space of an hour. Also I disagree that bags are more efficient. For a few reasons, but mainly the vapour goes stale in the bag

 

[ReggieB]

My only experience with bags is the volcano, they seem efficient if you do them straight away, 10-15mins is about the maximum, after that, the bag starts to go clear and if it's gone clear, all your goodies are condensed on the inside of the bag :/

 

[joker]

I never mind loading a full bowl, I just vape it over the space of an hour. Also I disagree that bags are more efficient. For a few reasons, but mainly the vapour goes stale in the bag

So with the whip if you put in the weed in the bowl it won't go bad or something if you leave it on for a full hour without vaping too much? That way I can vape 0.1 gram/hour.. would be perfect for me. I could not handle a full bowl at all.

The 0.2 gram smoked in 15 minutes through the whip was way too intense for me to enjoy that much.

 

[ReggieB]

@joker it'll be just like leaving a bit out on the side for a length of time, as long as it's not getting heated, it'll be fine.

 

[joker]

And something else. I have really bad blood circulation in legs and arms. My hands and feetare often so cold they hurt and fingers turn white. When I would make a fist and open my hand again my hand would be white for 20+ seconds, down to 3 now. If I remember correctly weed widens the blood vessles while cigarettes constrict them.

 

[ReggieB]

Tobacco/nicotine definitely constricts, not sure entirely what weed does in that respect.

 

[kellya86]

Yes there is scientific evidence that cannabis widens blood vessels and improves circulation.

 

[fubar]

So with the whip if you put in the weed in the bowl it won't go bad or something if you leave it on for a full hour without vaping too much?

If you leave it heating on the EQ for an hour, I'd think it's likely to go "bad" (meaning "lose potency") because volatiles will leave hot herb and probably condense on wand and whip instead of in your lungs.
I've never tried but know of no reason for potency to disappear much if the weed is kept relatively cool (room temperature) between tokes?
Best would be to try it! I think you'll find that a wand attached to a hot EQ will stay pretty warm, even when you're not sucking any air through it so you'd likely lose considerable volatile goodness over an hour of sitting hot?
Maybe try taking the wand off between tokes...

 

[kellya86]

I'm not saying leave it for an hour at 220, but if I load a full adapter, from start (185) to finish (215), that will take me about an hour, working my way up.
I'll get about 6 good clouds from this. 1 every 10 mins.

 

[spoutti]

Congrats on taking the plunge @joker !! I wish you an easy conversion to vapors like mine was. I too just couldnt ignore the after effects of smoking anymore, and still feel good about getting high . Going from +-0.2g joints to +-0.07g bowls was an unexpected bonus. Reading fc gave me a good exemple to follow and a community to support me along the way. I think you are on the right track.