How do you make a powerful tincture?

[kushcabbage]

Hello wonderful FC, my first thread. I'd like to ask any experienced users how to make a strong tincture. I've read everything I can on the forums and other threads elsewhere. Info is pretty scattered. I have few ingredients, and curious how I should make a strong heavy spray tincture. or something sweet to add to drinks. I have barcardi 151 rum, everclear, 50/50 vodka I'd like to do a hot extraction over a hotplate. Should I turn my hardly spent ABV into oil and disolve in a solvent or should I strain the material in directly? Ratios and amounts? I have made everclear hot extraction and use it in a spray but it hurts to use and I don't seem to feel it like I should. Which makes me wonder if I just didn't make it right
Thanks in advance, I appreciate any info. As sometimes I'm not able to vape, and being able to take a drop or sprays is my savior.

 

[Vicki]

I was just heading to bed, but want to follow this thread. I will post my thoughts on tincture tomorrow.

 

[fake name]

I love my tinctures strong.

I generally prefer a spray over mixing with drinks, it seems to work better and faster. If Everclear is too strong a burn then I would suggest switching to one of the others. Can you hold 151 in your mouth for a second, or is that too unpleasant?

100 proof vodka has worked well for me, and I don't do a heated extraction. I decarb first, cook the weed at 200 degrees f for 25 mins, and then put it in the vodka for a day with a few shakes during the day. Run it through a filter; I use a little clean vodka to help rinse everything through. After that I check it, if it's not strong enough I repeat with the same alcohol. There is a bit of a loss of alcohol, but the rinsing through the filter with clean vodka keeps that to a minimum.

If I'm going to be using abv and fresh herb both, I'll run the abv first. I wouldn't bother extracting the abv into an oil first then redissolving; I can see the benefit of doing this for an edible, but for the tincture I don't think it's needed. Especially if it's 'hardly spent.'

I don't know ratios, I just make it stronger if it isn't strong enough. But, I can estimate my last time doing it I used 7-10 grams of high quality herb and about 5-8 grams of abv into a little less than 200 ml.

As for not feeling it like you should, are you used to tincture, or are you expecting the same feeling as from vaporizing? They are diffferent in high, and medicative qualities, from vaporizers, in my experience.

 

[Bon Dog]

When I make tinctures (not often) I usually make abc oil and mix that into however much booze u want. I usually make canna capsules more often nowadays.

 

[bassplayer]

I really like the Green Dragon method - works great for me, I dilute a dose into some water since I use 190 proof everclear

 

[hitnrun]

I've used the GD recipe, with ~1/4 cup ABV and an eighth of decarbed commercial in 250ml of Everclear. That results in around 20 doses, which I usually consume mixed with 4oz or so of mango or orange juice. Not rocket fuel, perhaps, but it sets a nice 4-5 hour baseline. If I had access to medical grade stuff, like the pics in the "My Stash" thread, I'm sure the tincture would straighten my hair and take me for a ride.

 

[kushcabbage]

I love my tinctures strong.

I generally prefer a spray over mixing with drinks, it seems to work better and faster. If Everclear is too strong a burn then I would suggest switching to one of the others. Can you hold 151 in your mouth for a second, or is that too unpleasant?

100 proof vodka has worked well for me, and I don't do a heated extraction. I decarb first, cook the weed at 200 degrees f for 25 mins, and then put it in the vodka for a day with a few shakes during the day. Run it through a filter; I use a little clean vodka to help rinse everything through. After that I check it, if it's not strong enough I repeat with the same alcohol. There is a bit of a loss of alcohol, but the rinsing through the filter with clean vodka keeps that to a minimum.

If I'm going to be using abv and fresh herb both, I'll run the abv first. I wouldn't bother extracting the abv into an oil first then redissolving; I can see the benefit of doing this for an edible, but for the tincture I don't think it's needed. Especially if it's 'hardly spent.'

I don't know ratios, I just make it stronger if it isn't strong enough. But, I can estimate my last time doing it I used 7-10 grams of high quality herb and about 5-8 grams of abv into a little less than 200 ml.

As for not feeling it like you should, are you used to tincture, or are you expecting the same feeling as from vaporizing? They are diffferent in high, and medicative qualities, from vaporizers, in my experience.

I don't expect the same rush and mind melt with tincture but I've had some amazing ones before, and want mine to knock me out or relieve my neck and back pains. I think I will try the bacardi rum, as this tastes better for me. The burn is too much on the everclear. So one day of shaking will do the trick or maybe a week at most? I was thinking maybe 2 oz but if it's not a clear solvent I won't be able to see how cloudy and gold with medicine it's getting!

 

[that herb guy]

If you're looking for higher potency I'd cook some of the alcohol off after your rest period.

I'd sit/shake for 2-3 days, strain, then boil off (look for a recipe, I think most guides say keep it under 300F-ish) the liquid to about half. The idea is to get the alcohol evaporated but leave behind the goodies. Also cuts down the alcohol buzz tied to the amount needed without concentrating it. Not really an issue for drinkers, but doesn't exactly taste great.

 

[Vicki]

My tincture method has always been very simple. I use a 50/50 ratio, weed/kief to alcohol. I grind my herb very finely (unless it's kief), and add to a mason jar. Then I add just enough alcohol to cover the herb. I let it sit for 10 days, in a cool, dark place, shaking the mixture daily. After the 10 days, I strain the mixture through cheesecloth and a coffee filter, and put the finished product into a light resistant jar, stored in the refrigerator.

 

[hitnrun]

300-ish is way higher temp than needed. Alcohol evaporates ~170 F. Just simmer some water (less than 1/2") in a pan on the stove over very low heat, and place your strained alcohol in a small jar (without the lid) in the just bubbling water. Check it after 10 minutes to be certain its progressing, and in probably another 10 minutes, you should have reduced it's volume by half. Near impossible to cause ignition doing this way.

 

[harmudge]

I apologise in advance for not taking the time to look into this....but what is a tincture ??
A lot of you guy's mention it here and there throughout the forum but I don't really know what the hell it is.

 

[kushcabbage]

300-ish is way higher temp than needed. Alcohol evaporates ~170 F. Just simmer some water (less than 1/2") in a pan on the stove over very low heat, and place your strained alcohol in a small jar (without the lid) in the just bubbling water. Check it after 10 minutes to be certain its progressing, and in probably another 10 minutes, you should have reduced it's volume by half. Near impossible to cause ignition doing this way.

my exact procedures with the ever clear Fine advice indeed.

I apologise in advance for not taking the time to look into this....but what is a tincture ??
A lot of you guy's mention it here and there throughout the forum but I don't really know what the hell it is.

it is an alcohol and botanical based liquid that usually involves letting a strong alcohol based fine spirit dissolve the goodies out of cannabis. Oral consumption.

 

[harmudge]

I thought it was, but was un-sure.

So really what your doing then, is steeping your weed in a very strong proofed alcohol like whisky or vodka and then mixing that alcohol with another liquid...maybe vg or something, and then drinking the mix or cooking with it or simillar.

 

[kushcabbage]

I thought it was, but was un-sure.

So really what your doing then, is steeping your weed in a very strong proofed alcohol like whisky or vodka and then mixing that alcohol with another liquid...maybe vg or something, and then drinking the mix or cooking with it or simillar.

I don't know about VG, but I like to either put a few drops of vanilla bean extract in, and use it in a spray, as concentrated as possible. I have tried to pour some in a coke that tasted quite nice taste wise. I'm trying to improve potency.

 

[Dreamerr]

Wow this is so easy maybe I can even do it. I guess ABV wouldn't work?

 

[kushcabbage]

Wow this is so easy maybe I can even do it. I guess ABV wouldn't work?

I only want to use ABV!

 

[dorkus_molorkus]

I regularly make my own tincture & it puts me on my ass in less than a minute of consuming.

I make ABV oil with my extractor & butane. As soon as the butane has evapped, I then just scrape it into a brown bottle add some bacardi 151, give it a shake. maybe let it sit in some warm water to help it dissolve, give it a shake.

all done, 'kickass' tincture in 30mins.

I havent had to do this yet myself, because Its plenty strong as is.
But If you want it stronger just let the alcohol evap to about half of the original volume at the end.

Unfortunately I cant get enough ABV to have this all the time. It takes about 2-3oz for a 200ml batch.


I love it tho, and if I could, I would have this nearby at all times.

Got some social anxiety? a decent dose of this and I'll go anywhere. Couldnt give a damn.

My wife says it makes me much more pliable. whatever that means.

Do ya self a favor & make some 'kickass' tincture today.


In fact seeing as I made a batch yesterday, 2 capfuls coming up for breakfast.
nom,nom,nom.

 

[Bon Dog]

I don't know about VG, but I like to either put a few drops of vanilla bean extract in, and use it in a spray, as concentrated as possible. I have tried to pour some in a coke that tasted quite nice taste wise. I'm trying to improve potency.

If potency is your aim, you can dissolve a lot of decarbed oil in a fairly small amount of high proof booze (quickly).

Warning. You can overdo it very quickly this way lol

 

[Dreamerr]

Kush I don't think abv has enough left to make it strong enough. I just wasted 34 grams trying to make oil. Besides making a huge mess which I can't deal with it isn't strong enough. I also had trouble with my capsules some melted and that never happened before. They are not veggies and they are the same batch I used last time. I don't think we can put in enough abv with less actives to get into oils or alcohol but I hope a whole bunch that I am very wrong.

Dorkus...butane ewwww...can you do it without?

 

[harmudge]

Would this work with vape re-claim ?

My whip for my EQ is absolutely filthy, as I have been trying to let the condensed vapor build up for the re-claim.
I know you guy's are frowning on this as you read......but seriously, I have been using my EQ and whip since August and it hasn't saw a drop of clean water...admittedly I only vape a couple of grams a week, but this thing is seriously dirty.

I had that much condensed vapor in the whip a couple of months ago you could actually see this stuff flowing in the whip...so I hooked the whip up with a weight on top of the table and removed the glass mouthpiece and left it a while so that the vapor oil/honey oil dripped out into a small amount of tobacco.
I then dried the tobacco a little and rolled it up...I smoked the little spliff with this oil but it didn't feel like it had any effect...I was un-sure though, as I did feel something but this was the first bit of tobacco I had smoked in a long time and kinda put the little tingle I felt down to the tobacco.
Well now my whip is even more loaded with this oily reclaim flowing up and down my whip...so would this oily condensed vapor be any good for this tincture stuff ?

 

[Vicki]

I despise the taste of ABV tincture, and it actually makes me nauseated. I always use fresh herb because of that.

 

[that herb guy]

I don't think butane is the evil solvent most people make it out to be. Honestly I was going to suggest that method, but location still has a lot to do with BHO availability unless you pony up to make your own. It also works nicely with iso-hash, pressed hash, keif, etc.

As long as the maker is fully purging the product, I don't see much cause for worry just because it was extracted with a particular solvent. Basically everything other than cold water hashes probably have some possibility for contaminants if not done right, and even the water cured has to be CAREFULLY watched for mold development while drying.

Most good things in life come with at least a slight risk.

 

[Dreamerr]

For me I didn't say eww cause of contaminants but because of taste and more importantly to hard for me to do. If you don't taste it if done right I wouldn't care. I was confusing as always sorry.

 

[dorkus_molorkus]

well, yes. I did neglect to mention it. (The taste I mean.)

Its ABV FFS, I took it for granted that we all knew its gonna............ well this..........

But satisfying nonetheless.

 

[Vicki]

well, yes. I did neglect to mention it. (The taste I mean.)

Its ABV FFS, I took it for granted that we all knew its gonna............ well this..........

But satisfying nonetheless.

Yes, it tastes like ass alright!!