High only once a day

[Ricardo]

@OF. I came across a post of yours in another thread which I can't find now. As I know you drop in here (and I'm an exclusive Ascent user) I hope it's okay to bring it up here. If I remember correctly, you said that once the THC binds to the receptors, that's it - you get as high as you're going to get and no amount of vaping is going to get you higher - at most it will prolong the high - I think that was the gist of it?
I find I can only really get high once a day and that's enough most of the time. But on weekends I've sometimes got high in the early afternoon with just a pinch of weed in the Ascent, it lasts about 2 - 3 hours and then fades. If I try later in the evening it's like I'm wasting product, I just don't get high. I'll get a bit of a boost and maybe feel more lucid and chilled, but never, ever like the earlier sesson. Does that make any sense? Does anyone else have the same experience? Look forward to any comments

 

[OF]

If I try later in the evening it's like I'm wasting product, I just don't get high. I'll get a bit of a boost and maybe feel more lucid and chilled, but never, ever like the earlier sesson. Does that make any sense? Does anyone else have the same experience? Look forward to any comments

Well that's not exactly what I said, but it's a start. THC (or the similar naturally occurring chemical the sensor is designed to work with) binds to the sensors until it's cleared away by natural processes. As I recall the liver breaks the THC down eventually anyway. If there is still more THC left in the blood, more binds with the now open sensor and there's no net change. Since you take longer to get THC into (and out of) your system when you eat it as opposed to inhale you 'stay higher longer' and have a delay as the levels build.

It takes a lot of hours to clear your system, THC can be found many days later at lower levels (think drug tests). You might feel 'normal again' but you still have THC active.

So yes, we all 'suffer' this same effect (although many I suspect don't notice?). If you want a big old example, lay completely off THC in all forms for two weeks or so (until you're basically THC free, except for a very sensitive lab test) and then really get hammered again.........

Regards,

OF

 

[Ricardo]

Thanks OF. I remember now - that was a guy who wanted the trippiest possible effect and planned to do edibles and vape till he got where he wanted - hope he got there. I don't smoke and before I got into vaping (about 15 months ago) I experimented with milkshakes - it was pretty cool sometimes but very hit and miss. Very tricky to calculate and hard to be stealthy in the kitchen...tasty though, with full-milk, lemon/vanilla essence and cinammon.
Anyway, I now exclusively vape and am very happy with the results, although my experimentation with temperatures is also inconsistent. Sometimes I get nothing at 185ºC but yesterday - whoosh! I think the goodies are definitely in there and I needed to draw slower and longer (sipping). And then, about six hours later, I stirred the ABV up a bit and hit it at 221ºC (max on the Ascent) and yay, happily medicated for bedtime. All this on just a pinch of Critical +. At one stage I was about 15 minutes into a Japanese movie (Still the Water) before I realized it didn't have subs

 

[darkrom]

I believe the receptors fill up or something, but IDK about the high once per day. Lets say you vape in the morning and get high. Are you telling me if at noon you vape 3 bowls back to back you aren't going to get high?

 

[Ricardo]

I believe the receptors fill up or something, but IDK about the high once per day. Lets say you vape in the morning and get high. Are you telling me if at noon you vape 3 bowls back to back you aren't going to get high?

Well, that's been my experience more than once... Not three bowls but maybe the same amount as before and... zilch. But yesterday I proved myself wrong - go figure!

 

[stickstones]

I sometimes have the same experience as you @Ricardo , and it usually has more to do with the strain than anything else. Most strains do this a little bit, and every now and then I'll come across one that is a one and done type that does nothing for me on secondary sessions. I also find sometimes if I take a short nap it resets everything...the effect is gone and I can start over.

 

[Buildozer]

If I feel like I can't get any higher, switching to a vape that functions differently helps a lot, and so does switching strains, and or even throwing some concentrates or edibles in the mix.. I'm the type that likes to try to get baked into oblivion when convenient, and I can no doubt hit the wall when using one specific vape or strain, but even then, since I don't constantly dab, I can take a fat dab, and go through the fucking roof.. So IMO it seems like it's getting used to a certain delivery and profile of actives that is the issue.. IME even if I'm too used to a certain delivery and or profile of actives, there are still other delivery systems and actives out there that can still have a strong effect on me, regardless of how saturated I am w/ a specific profile of actives from a certain strain and or vape.. Now, these are not "facts", just my opinions based on experience.. Try throwing different strains, and vapes in the mix.. Try dabs.. Eat edibles.. Whatever you like.. Saturate yourself from different angles w/ various cannabinoids and delivery methods If you can stay awake for it, I think you'd find out that you're brain can be saturated a lot more than you probably think If not, then you're probably doing it wrong .. I've definitely managed to get baked into a psychedelic state, while having a high tolerance.. It takes some dedication, know-how, creativity and resources though It's quite the mission, and not for the faint of heart .. Anyways, I don't feel that getting used to a strain and vape is the same thing as total brain cannabinoid saturation If you try not to get too used to one thing (strain, vape, flower, concentrate, edible, etc), you'd probably have better luck staying baked on a regular basis
Tolerance plays a roll for sure, but tolerance to certain strains and vapes I think maybe comes into play first.. Of course you can always increase effects by taking a T-break, but I'm more of a glutton, so I like to dive in deeper IME it's definitely possible.

 

[darkrom]

Switching strains keeps it fresh for me. An ideal way to use it would be having multiple strains per day. Having 3-4 piles of ground up buds is something I try to do. Never gets stagnant for me that way.

 

[Ricardo]

All very interesting comments. I certainly have felt trippy on occasion, when effect and circumstance coincide, but I often hold back both in how much I consume and also by consciously "grounding myself in reality" - things like checking my phone for messages or looking out the window , because the kids are around and I can't be zonked around them, but that's a story for another thread.
I've only occasionally had the luxury of having two strains available - generally it's whatever the guy has, and it's always quality bud, but I'm not getting it at a dispensary or a recreational boutique ..
In short, I think it's more about me not letting myself go than anything else. I'm happy to have a lowish tolerance and using weed to relax and sometimes get super high. Thinking it through is interesting and helpful. Great forum, this.

 

[howie105]

Then there is perception, in that we are what we believe we are or are not at times.

 

[lazylathe]

I find i have to maintain a medicated state very carefully.
It is kind of a roller coaster ride of ups, mellow outs and plateaus.
When i plateau i find i can medicate again but the medicated state changes to more of a body buzz, more couch lock. Head feels high but body is immobile.
Good for my type of auto-immune disease and arthritis.

It may be in my head but man that 50 pound bag of cement someone left on my head is heavy!

I should mention that i only use at night and pretty small amount, maybe 1/4 g per night.
Works for me and it works every night unless i abuse it over the weekends!

EDIT: I also keep multiple strains and change up every day and during sessions.
I think this is very important!

 

[CarolKing]

I think switching up strains is so important. I know some don't like to use sativa strains but I have a few hybrids I like to vaporize. I use more indicas for the most part.

I vaporize for pain mostly so it depends on how my day is going as to how often I use cannabis. Sometimes it's only once.

 

[sokesleezy]

I sometimes have the same experience as you @Ricardo , and it usually has more to do with the strain than anything else. Most strains do this a little bit, and every now and then I'll come across one that is a one and done type that does nothing for me on secondary sessions.

This has been my experience as well.

 

[HomeFree]

I only get high once a day if I want to get high. Otherwise it seems to be wasteful. But I also have no problem using weed all day if I need to.

Ricardo, I would suggest saving a gram out of an eighth and put it into a jar with maybe a date and a gist of effect and taste each time you pick up so you can try it again later and retain a few different strains on hand for different uses.

Most bud will obviously get you stoned, but each strain can be like a different type of tool, we'll say a hammer. Some hammers are more useful for some scenarios than others. You might need a claw hammer for one project, and a ball peen hammer for another. Both can hammer in some nails, but one would have an advantage over the other in certain scenarios and with whomever is wielding the tool in particular.

EDIT: something that I have noticed with a lot of diesel and diesel crosses is that I will go to bed feeling straight, and wake up in the morning with a buzz. It seems to be focused mostly on the diesel/chem/and some og type strains for me.

 

[Stu]

I get high every time I vape, but I only get really high when I vape for the first time of the day. After that, it's just maintenance. That's why I sometimes wait to vape on weekends until I really want to feel the maximum effects (on weekdays I only vape during the evening). While I love a good wake and bake, sometimes I refrain until later in the day, like I will this weekend watching the US Open. It might make my McGriddle less tasty in the morning, but I'll get to really enjoy watching Phil Mickleson fall apart on the back nine, so it'll be worth it.

 

[HomeFree]

yeah, I should have written REALLY high. I can definitely get high more than once a day. But if I want a maximum effect, for me also no more than once a day. I find that helps with tolerance as well to only use it once a day. Fortunately I found a club who has very decent herb (good effects and taste) for a cheap price. Some of these $5/gram strains are every bit as good or even better than many $20/gr strains.

They are scraggly looking at times, but decent. I have been pretty impressed with these guys. The owner is a bit eccentric, but eccentric can be a good thing. The $5 grams are probably only 15-18% strains, but the math works out well and I would much rather have an incredibly tasty strain with a good effect than a non tasty strain that is more potent (20-24%), but less or generic effects if you know what I mean.

So I have not been worrying about tolerance as much, and it's nice to be able to use enough medicine for the job and not have to pinch pennies or even do something like eat poor quality food to be able to afford my medicine.

 

[CharSadehBeast]

@Ricardo MMJ has a a very similar effect on me as well but due to my low tolerance level I like that. I take small hits throughout the day and have a full sesh at night 2 hours or so before sleep

 

[shredder]

I think sometimes we can be high but never notice it. My wife eats medibles but does not smoke or vape. I'll look at her and she looks trashed, but she maintains she is not. Sometimes she realizes she is stoned when she tries to do something. I've noticed in myself a buzz leaving then coming back, like in waves. I guess how we react to cannabis is as varied as we are.

 

[hoptimum]

I think sometimes we can be high but never notice it. My wife eats medibles but does not smoke or vape. I'll look at her and she looks trashed, but she maintains she is not. Sometimes she realizes she is stoned when she tries to do something. I've noticed in myself a buzz leaving then coming back, like in waves. I guess how we react to cannabis is as varied as we are.

I think this is particularly true with medibles, probably because of the way the liver processes the THC

 

[justcametomind]

@Ricardo you said you are quite new to cannabis, I read here that sometimes people needs to "activate" their receptors so the first few times their high is not fully blown. You mentioned some previous experience so I'm not sure it's your case, but if you had just a couple of milkshakes before trying vaping, it could be the case.

 

[Grim Chiclets]

I think this is particularly true with medibles, probably because of the way the liver processes the THC

I'd agree with that, edibles never seem to do a whole lot aside from make me feel like I'm somehow a husk, or a mostly functioning idle-thought-ed zombie.. it's interesting how different from vaping that is for me; especially when so many people absolutely love edibles and say it's like a longer vape high for them.

Whenever I pontificate over things like this, it makes me wonder how our life events can sculpt the way we perceive something; like a high, music, even flavors and smells having a varied-over-time perception/reaction based on factors that seem asinine.. Such as how many times you've been to Disney World, or how many siblings you grew up with, your favorite color, etc.

 

[Hashtag46&2]

When I was younger, when my Auto-Immune Disease/Arthritic fusion wasn't a huge issue...

I would literally try to stay high from the first thing in the morning till it was time to go to sleep.

After years of copious cannabis consumption...

As much as I love getting high ...

I only partake 30-60 minutes prior to bedtime, occasionally I'll eat a strong dose of Cannamels (About 350mg ) on the Weekend prior to watching some Movies or a UFC Fight Night.(@This dose, it is very similar to psychedelics)

[Cannamels - Hash Oil infused into Caramel, I've found this is the fastest working edible as it literally melts upon hitting my mouth, every other edible I've had always takes at least an hour, the Cannamels start working within 30ish minutes, I can actually feel my face starting to get "Warm & Fuzzy " after 5 minutes ]

Getting high once a day at bedtime has completely changed the effectiveness and efficiency of my Cannabis.

If I were to get high multiple times throughout the day, my night time session would not work nearly as well.

With my current regiment, of course I'd like to get a little high during the day, but I prefer to "wait it out " as my nightly sesh gets me exactly where I need to be.

It also inevitably gives me something to look forward to every evening.

Damn... I love Cannabis

 

[zor]

As someone who used to be sXe and surrounded by addictive personalities, I've always been wary of letting my vices and pleasures take over. When I first began to use weed recreationally it was a once a week venture (great way to cap the weekend), then 2-3 times a week (man, sex is amazing when high"), then nightly (woah, TV shows and games are even more entertaining this way!), then a little earlier before dinner (makes food tastes amazing!), then as soon as I got home from work (might as well max out the time I can enjoy weed before bed), and then, when I was unemployed, all day every day (uh oh...).

It took a while to recalibrate and establish a better, healthier routine (all relative to me and my lifestyle and preferences). This is no judgment on anyone else here, but I was now totally abusing the plant and avoiding major life issues (my father's sudden death, re-evaluating what I want to do with life, etc) and using it as a way to accelerate the path to the weekend, wherein I'd do it all even more excessively.

I've since reeled it in and once I became a medical patient I've tried to follow a regimented use like @Hashtag46&2 describes above, as the more directed usage has helped mitigate my symptoms (anxiety, insomnia, anger, etc), and it has helped! While I still deeply enjoy spending a chunk of my day in a blissful high, especially when I'm feeling particularly sad, but better management of my daily usage has been extremely useful!

 

[A1FBG]

Obviously like said potency, frequency of use, and delivery method are key

But any thoughts on the issues being caused by mental reasons ?

Example: negativity, etc.

Like, if you not happy your won't get a good high/the negative thoughts over ride the high

 

[calyx]

Obviously like said potency, frequency of use, and delivery method are key

But any thoughts on the issues being caused by mental reasons ?

Example: negativity, etc.

Like, if you not happy your won't get a good high/the negative thoughts over ride the high

This can definitely be the case for some people. Not necessarily OP but i've seen it in multiple people before.
Lifestyle and state of mind often have much more to do with this than tolerance.