Herborizer corner

[redrollei75]

thats nice ! I have been eyeing these kind of power supplies on aliex for a while but never pulled the trigger... I'd like one in a smaller form factor (I know they exist).

Have you been able to test amps variation instead of volts ?

Hi Radwin Bodnic
The downside of the device is its size and the active cooling fan that makes noise (like a PC's).
However, it's really stable, and the main amps are 5. They clearly increase as the volts increase. I usually range between 7.70 and 9.50 volts. I never reach the maximum of 12 or 5 amps.
However, they increase slightly while vaping, but it's just a matter of cents

Lovely set up. Had a big weed guy over and introduced him to a lot of my vapes. It is the Herborizer that he was most interested in buying. (#2 was Anvil)

With this vape you can really taste the terps and the various flavors... in my experience no other vape gives me this...

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

Hi Radwin Bodnic
The downside of the device is its size and the active cooling fan that makes noise (like a PC's).
However, it's really stable, and the main amps are 5. They clearly increase as the volts increase. I usually range between 7.70 and 9.50 volts. I never reach the maximum of 12 or 5 amps.
However, they increase slightly while vaping, but it's just a matter of cents

Thanks for the reply.
I was eyeing miniature units that doesn't have a fan so the noise shouldn't be an issue.

Aren't you able to change the amps delivered by the unit ?
What I understand is that you're using it as a potentiometer (tension (V) variation). I'd like to know how it behaves when used as a rheostat (current (A) variation).

The resistor of the heater (just like any resistor, thank god) has a value that increase with temperature. So when you draw, you cool the resistor and the resistance value lowers. As the power supply delivers a steady voltage it has to increase the amps slightly to cover the lower resistance value. Just the time for the heater to recover the temperature lost during the draw. That's totally normal behavior and shows a good regulation.

An opposite example is the Chinese vvps that comes with the herbo. It is not steady (voltage lowers over time) because it has a fixed current (amps) and the increasing resistance (ohms) of the heating element cause it to lower the voltage to deliver the same amount of power. That's why it stop lowering after a certain time : when temperature is perfectly stabilized.
This is not an issue per se but causes longer heating times.

 

[redrollei75]

Thanks for the reply.
I was eyeing miniature units that doesn't have a fan so the noise shouldn't be an issue.

Aren't you able to change the amps delivered by the unit ?
What I understand is that you're using it as a potentiometer (tension (V) variation). I'd like to know how it behaves when used as a rheostat (current (A) variation).

That's exactly how I'm using it.

The resistor of the heater (just like any resistor, thank god) has a value that increase with temperature. So when you draw, you cool the resistor and the resistance value lowers. As the power supply delivers a steady voltage it has to increase the amps slightly to cover the lower resistance value. Just the time for the heater to recover the temperature lost during the draw. That's totally normal behavior and shows a good regulation.

that's what happens when I vape!!!

An opposite example is the Chinese vvps that comes with the herbo. It is not steady (voltage lowers over time) because it has a fixed current (amps) and the increasing resistance (ohms) of the heating element cause it to lower the voltage to deliver the same amount of power. That's why it stop lowering after a certain time : when temperature is perfectly stabilized.
This is not an issue per se but causes longer heating times.

I couldn't explain it better!!!

 

[martatabs]

Hi Herbo guys!

I love my Herborizer TI!!! The only thing I don't like is the power supply.
I wanted to get an ATM RFEC, but I live in Italy, so I got a benchtop power supply. I chose this model because they produce other precision control devices. There are definitely newer and cheaper models.

With a stripped DC cable connected to banana plugs, I can go straight to the Herborizer.
It works very well and is stable and consistent, giving you consistent, consistent sessions.

I'll leave you some shots.

https://imgur.com/a/dCLo8qR

https://imgur.com/Kaw5EvG

https://imgur.com/AjgyHQN

https://imgur.com/oZ7n75m

Bye
Happy vaping

My last replacement power supply didn't fit tightly and very easily falls off. My previous power supply got cable damage in 1 year. Did you also have similar issues with the power supply?

Hmm, I have some new herb in. I may have to break my Ti out again, I have been obsessed with my WOHW and my poor old Herby has fallen by the wayside but tonight will be Herborizer night!

I am dissatisfied with Herborizer power supply cable and I am considering buying WOHW. How you would compare both. Can you set the WOHW to low temperature and smoke the bowl slowly like you can with the Herbo?

 

[redrollei75]

My last replacement power supply didn't fit tightly and very easily falls off. My previous power supply got cable damage in 1 year. Did you also have similar issues with the power supply?

I am dissatisfied with Herborizer power supply cable and I am considering buying WOHW. How you would compare both. Can you set the WOHW to low temperature and smoke the bowl slowly like you can with the Herbo?

Hi martatabs

So, no problem with the cable I purchased separately. It fits perfectly, better than the original, which tended to come loose.

I don't know WOHW, but I can tell you that the one I'm using works really well. You can vape as you like, whether at low or high temperatures.
It also heats up much faster and more responsively during vaping sessions. You can see this in the changes in amps and therefore current in use.

Also, I don't know why, but now the heater no longer sticks to the stand.

bye

 

[coolbreeze]

I am dissatisfied with Herborizer power supply cable and I am considering buying WOHW. How you would compare both. Can you set the WOHW to low temperature and smoke the bowl slowly like you can with the Herbo?

Any 12 volt 5 amp power supply should work. I'm using one that came with another vape and it's fine. Ball vapes generally can do lower-temp flavor hits but vapor quality usually just doesn't last like it does with a Herborizer. They're really built to roast quicker. Something like the Phase3 ZX will do flavor every bit as great as a herbo, but in one hit rather than several. Nevertheless, they usually can do low-temp, multi-hit bowls.

 

[redrollei75]

Of course, any 12V 5-amp amplifier will work, as will the one that comes with it.
With the power supply, it works with more precision and consistent results... my 2 cents...
Happy vaping!!!

 

[coolbreeze]

Of course, any 12V 5-amp amplifier will work, as will the one that comes with it.
With the power supply, it works with more precision and consistent results... my 2 cents...
Happy vaping!!!

I know you're right. But they are a little more expensive. I think what's held me off is that I'd need a few to run my logs and so forth so I've just held on to the ones that came as part of the original price, rather than replace them with better, more expensive ones. Definitely makes sense if one dies, though, or if you build your setup by part, or if you only need one.

I should get one anyhow and try it amongst my vapes and see which benefit the most from it, maybe make some replacements over time.

 

[Hippie]

I use a PWM buck/boost thingy because it's universal so it replaces many power supplies and dimmers in my collection
Some of them have a memory function now, which can be handy if you have a lot of devices
Remembering the power settings for each device is probably my biggest issue lol

 

[redrollei75]

Yes, it's true that they cost more.
But you can use it for more things, testing devices, batteries, etc. For example, I also use it for my e-bike batteries. And I don't want to be right, I just want to share my experiences, hoping they might be useful to someone, as they've often been useful to me...

Happy vaping!!!

 

[autoflowerautobot]

I am dissatisfied with Herborizer power supply cable and I am considering buying WOHW. How you would compare both. Can you set the WOHW to low temperature and smoke the bowl slowly like you can with the Herbo?

You can, but it's not quite the same in my opinion. The Herborizer Ti has a very unique, almost steamy feel to the vapour, letting the terp signature of the weed evolve as you vape it while giving a nice, consistent cook, and lets you take your time with a bowl if you want to. The WOHW, on the other hand, gives an immediate rush of terpenes and cannabinoids in one to three dense hits, even at lower temperatures, a lot more like a dab. Plus, with the WOHW, you need to put the ball-head back into the coil after every bowl to regain the heat in the head, whereas the Herbo can sit on the bowl (other than stirring) from start to finish.

They both find their way into my arsenal though, with the Herborizer providing a more refined, tasty experience that takes a bit longer to set in versus the WOHW giving an immediate and effective phat rip. I like to think of them like motorbikes - the Herbo is like a tourer, all about comfort and smoothness but trading off some speed, whereas the WOHW (or any ball vape really) is more like a supersport, prioritising speed and power over everything else. They both get you to your destination but they do so differently.

One thing that I will say in the Herbo's favour is this - nothing beats organic homegrown through it. It is the taste king. I don't regret the WOHW purchase, but it has equally made me more appreciative of the experience that I get through the Herbo.

TLDR kind of, but not really, the vapes are different enough that it won't be the same.