Help Me Chose Between These Models

[webMistress]

My husband has fallen in love with the MFLB. He likes the fact that it's wood. How are these for smell? I'm not crazy about the whole battery thing.

 

[lwien]

How are these for smell?

Great.

 

[deadheadbill]

LSV is the way you way to go. I own a MFLB and it is an awesome stealth vape. Very efficient. But it is no LSV.

As to the Solo. It also is a great vape, but it is no LSV. The LSV will blow it away in every category except portability.

There are many fans of the Solo and they are adamant(because it is a good vape). But I have tried both and again, I would take the LSV 10 times out of 10.

 

[max]

I really like the Firefly @natural farmer but it's too spendy. I may pick one up later if I need portability.

3 of the 5 in your narrowed down list are portables, yet you say you plan to vape in the house only. This leads me to believe you've been overly impressed by the hype of those 3 models. I think you've made a good choice in the LSV (and the DBV is also a good one), so I'm not trying to change your mind, just stress that a good AC model is always (with existing technology) going to have an advantage over portables for performance and long term power considerations. Designing for portability means considering size, which extends even to bowl size, and your power source (usually batteries) will eventually need replacing. Even user replaceable rechargable batteries have a lifespan. The portables on your list are good ones, but make sure that portability is a priority before you consider one. I've owned a lot of different vapes, both AC models and portables, but I'm never tempted to use a portable in the house unless the power is out or I'm working in the garage.

My husband has fallen in love with the MFLB.

I was an early buyer of the LB, and still use it, but for in house use it really needs the power adapter to shine, as well as a really fine grind, since it's conduction, and coaxing big hits out of it takes some practice.

 

[lwien]

....I'm never tempted to use a portable in the house unless the power is out or I'm working in the garage.

I use the MFLB in the house sometimes strictly based on it's convenience along with the different "high" that I get from it versus the LSV.

Typically, I'll warm up the LSV, prepare the bong and proceed to take a few massive hits. After that, I turn off the LSV, wash out the bong and put everything away. If I need a maintenance hit, I'll take out the preloaded MFLB for a quick hit or two. For me, this routine is just about perfect.

 

[max]

I use the MFLB in the house sometimes strictly based on it's convenience along with the different "high" that I get from it versus the LSV.

Great point lwien. 'Instant on/always ready to hit' and a different hit size are both excellent reasons to use the LB inside, and I'd be doing it too, except that I have a log vape at hand (with choice of direct draw or gong adapter for water filtration) for the same purpose.

Having complimentary vaporizers available is great, and should be the goal for any vaporist who can afford it.

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

My husband has fallen in love with the MFLB. He likes the fact that it's wood. How are these for smell? I'm not crazy about the whole battery thing.

The MFLB doesn't smell much at all, unless you use material that is not dry enough. That is what I ended up doing with my first MFLB and resin keep leaking down to the bottom. By the time I realized what I was doing, the thing was well beyond ever not reeking again. You can sorta clean that gunk off, but it's a pain and I was never able to get it all.

Point being? Make sure your material is dry!

It's a neat little device, but I still say an UD or Nano, especially if the two of you are fond of wood.

 

[Caligula]

Once again.... half off and only $125 at the moment. Itll work just as well as an LSV or SSV, its stealthier (looking), and its made from hand worked wood (your choice on type).

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/epicvape-ev-1-ev-2.3692/

 

[deadheadbill]

LSV is better.

 

[webMistress]

3 of the 5 in your narrowed down list are portables, yet you say you plan to vape in the house only. This leads me to believe you've been overly impressed by the hype of those 3 models. I think you've made a good choice in the LSV (and the DBV is also a good one), so I'm not trying to change your mind, just stress that a good AC model is always (with existing technology) going to have an advantage over portables for performance and long term power considerations. Designing for portability means considering size, which extends even to bowl size, and your power source (usually batteries) will eventually need replacing. Even user replaceable rechargable batteries have a lifespan. The portables on your list are good ones, but make sure that portability is a priority before you consider one. I've owned a lot of different vapes, both AC models and portables, but I'm never tempted to use a portable in the house unless the power is out or I'm working in the garage.

I was an early buyer of the LB, and still use it, but for in house use it really needs the power adapter to shine, as well as a really fine grind, since it's conduction, and coaxing big hits out of it takes some practice.

It's not buying into the hype of portable models. It's that I need to be relatively discreet - I have 2 kiddos under the age of 5. If I need to medicate during the day, I need to hide in the bathroom for a bit. I don't want something big that is a pain in the ass to put away/take out because I'm not going to leave it out. To me the LSV is a nice compromise between a home unit and a portable. I like the solo to but since I can get an LSV for so cheap I'm thinking it's the way to go.

 

[lwien]

It's not buying into the hype of portable models. It's that I need to be relatively discreet - I have 2 kiddos under the age of 5. If I need to medicate during the day, I need to hide in the bathroom for a bit. I don't want something big that is a pain in the ass to put away/take out because I'm not going to leave it out. To me the LSV is a nice compromise between a home unit and a portable. I like the solo to but since I can get an LSV for so cheap I'm thinking it's the way to go.

Ooooo............now you've raised a new concern regarding the kids. While I LOVE my LSV, it is nowhere near as discreet as the MFLB. The Solo is not as discreet as well. As far as stealthiness goes, the MFLB is pretty hard to beat.

Case in point. With the LSV, you need to take it out of it's carrying bag, plug it in (very thick and stiff AC cord) and wait about 4 minutes to heat up. Then you have a long glass tansfer wand to take out (unless you're using it with a bong) along with the metal stirrer being that you really should be stirring between every hit. That's three parts........the wand, the VERY sharp stirrer, and the vape. Then after you're done, you need to let the LSV cool off, unplug it, wrap up the cord a bit before putting it and all of the associated gear away in it's bag. You don't want to leave any of this out with those kiddies around. The LSV gets HOT. It's got glass parts that can break, and that stirrer is VERY sharp and could cause some serious damage if the kids got a hold of it.

The MFLB, on the other hand, has none of these associated dangers if left out, and it is soooooo easy to just put it away in it's metal box when you're done. You can even leave the load in the vape to be used next time you vape, so, unlike the LSV, there is no reloading until the trench is done and typically, you can get about 12 to 15 hits from one trench.

Considering what you said in the above post, I would opt for the MFLB over the LSV (and I say this with the LSV being my favorite vape, but then, I don't have small kids running around).

 

[webMistress]

Currently 50% off for FC members:

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/epicvape-ev-1-ev-2.3692/

50% off EV-2 and accessories. Use code:EV50.

Yes, that makes it only $125.

Oh geez. Now another to seriously consider.

 

[Caligula]

LSV is better.

I dont own an LSV, IPlease quantify this statement, including taking price difference into consideration. Im not saying you're outright wrong however some objective fact finding is needed IMO.

@webMistress as you can see from the pictures, the EpicVape products (either the EV2 or the E-Nano) look nothing like a MJ consumption device. Ive told people that its an aromatherapy oil warmer (and it works as such very well) and all they can do is comment on how nice the wood looks. Never another question is raised.

Also, as someone who smoked MJ for 20 years before switching to vaporizing I can tell you that even I wouldnt know what this thing is upon seeing it out of context for the first time. I cant imagine a 5 year old figuring it out without actually seeing you use it.

Just something to consider.

 

[webMistress]

@lwein I'm not too worried about the kids getting ahold of it because I keep all mmj related things on a top closet shelf. But, you do raise a point I hadn't thought of - cool down time. I would have to leave the LSV out for a bit to cool & that may be an issue during the day when the kids are up & about. I could stick it in the shower caddy while cooling like I do with my flatiron.




Okay I now have a question about temp control. I thought the LSV had temp settings but maybe not? I need CBDs for pain & anxiety, so being able to set a hotter temp is key from my understanding. It looks the only one with a thermostat is the Solo?

 

[deadheadbill]

I dont own an LSV, IPlease quantify this statement, including taking price difference into consideration. Im not saying you're outright wrong however some objective fact finding is needed IMO.

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If you don't own an LSV and you don't own an EV-2 how could you possibly say I was "outright wrong".

Furthermore, how can you make this statement- "Itll work just as well as an LSV or SSV"?

Seriously though. It just seemed as if you came in repeating the same suggestion you made before as if no one had seen the original, so I thought I would do the same? My points to as why I like the LSV are in my original post.

I'm truly not picking on you. I just feel there is no reason to try to force a certain vape on someone and repeating suggestions ad nauseum with no additional info is just that.



Edit: Actually, I realized that I didn't really layout why I like the LSV in my 1st post. But it's benefits are already outlined in this thread and the 4500 post LSV thread.

 

[Caligula]

If you don't own an LSV and you don't own an EV-2 how could you possibly say I was "outright wrong".

Furthermore, how can you make this statement- "Itll work just as well as an LSV or SSV"?

Seriously though. It just seemed as if you came in repeating the same suggestion you made before as if no one had seen the original, so I thought I would do the same? My points to as why I like the LSV are in my original post.

I'm truly not picking on you. I just feel there is no reason to try to force a certain vape on someone and repeating suggestions ad nauseum with no additional info is just that.

Ive used both, so i feel i have some experience to speak from. However, as you probably know, owning one is different from using one once in a while.

This is why I asked for clarification.

Also, I didnt simply repost my suggestion. I revisited said suggestion while adding pertinent information, due to the OP offering up new variables within her situation (small children).

 

[deadheadbill]

It's all good.

And yeah. The EV-2 is more discreet than the LSV for sure.

 

[natural farmer]

It's not buying into the hype of portable models. It's that I need to be relatively discreet - I have 2 kiddos under the age of 5. If I need to medicate during the day, I need to hide in the bathroom for a bit. I don't want something big that is a pain in the ass to put away/take out because I'm not going to leave it out. To me the LSV is a nice compromise between a home unit and a portable. I like the solo to but since I can get an LSV for so cheap I'm thinking it's the way to go.

It you need to hide in the bathroom to take a hit or two, you should really consider the Lotus. Plugging in the vape, waiting for it to heat up, loading the stem etc are not things you really wanna do when you hurry to sneak in for a couple of mins and be back for the kids ASAP...
You would have finished brushing out the debris from the Lotus bowl faster than plugging in your LSV... With the Lotus it's grab it, scoop some ground herb with it's stem, place the cap on, take a hit in 10 secs and of you go.
I use the Lotus like that all the time and I would never consider a plug in vape for such scenarios. And the Lotus is not your average underpowered portable... It hits hard and fast! One or two hits and you are done in less than a minute! Do some reading in it's thread and you won't look back imo...

 

[Caligula]

Issue there is that a butane torch isn't exactly quiet. Im assuming a 5 year old standing by the bathroom door may be interested to know what that loud hissing and blowing noise is.

 

[natural farmer]

Even the water from the toilet's waterfall can cover two clicks and a few secs or hissing. Not a problem ime...

Edit: And if your 5 yo is so interested at what you are doing in the bathroom, don't you think an LSV type of contraption going back and forth and glass wands would raise any questions?

 

[Caligula]

I didn't suggest the LSV.

The EV2/E-Nano can be left in 24/7, and while its on you can add an aromatherapy bowl. At that point they become a very nice looking, hand worked wooden candle warmers. Something that wouldnt look out of place in any room in the house, especially the bathroom.

Bonus? Zero heatup time. Grab a packed glass stem, and its cashed in less time than it takes to run that water youre using to cover the noise of that torch

 

[natural farmer]

I didn't suggest the LSV.

The EV2/E-Nano can be left in 24/7, and while its on you can add an aromatherapy bowl. At that point they become a very nice looking, hand worked wooden candle warmers. Something that wouldnt look out of place in any room in the house, especially the bathroom.

Bonus? Zero heatup time. Grab a packed glass stem, and its cashed in less time than it takes to run that water youre using to cover the noise of that torch

That's true as well... And a nice smelling bathroom after your session is not bad either!
Nano is a nice choice indeed!

 

[Caligula]

Looks pretty benign, no?

 

[lwien]

She's got little kids running around. Does the top of the Nano get hot enough to burn fingers?

 

[webMistress]

She's got little kids running around. Does the top of the Nano get hot enough to burn fingers?

I have a 6 foot high bookcase that it can stay on. I wouldn't leave it within reach of the kiddos. Our bathroom counters are pretty high too if I need to use it in there but I could just put it back on the bookcase.

Does anyone know of a discount on the nano model? I like the size of it but not necessarily $50+ more.