Multi-brand HEALTHY RIPS FURY

[OF]

Hmmm this decision is tough i'm hesitating between solo, mighty, or fury 2.

Yes, but it has such a simple and foolproof solution. Buy one of each, use them for a while, then you should know how each meets your unique personal requirements? And if you don't know this now unknowable detail of life, it must not have been important in the first place........

Solo and Mighty (to a lesser degree?) share a huge and loyal owner base. Very hard to go very far wrong with either of them. F2 is getting there, but still lags behind 'the Big Dogs'.

Everyone in the vaping universe talks about how convection gives better flavor. So how can the F2 flavor not be as good as the Solo?

Evidently this 'fact' isn't? In a broad sense heat is heat, at the molecular level it matters not how the calories got there as long as they do?

I think part of this idea comes from convection vapes being easier to keep clean and fresh? Stuff generally doesn't get stuck in corners and go foul.

And real convection is a real power hog, and the vapes get real hot. Consider Grasshopper, ESV, FireFly, T1 and Cera. It takes a lot of power to heat a lot of air up to make a small amount of vapor this way.

There probably is an advantage to convection, but is 'swamped' by routine changes in strain, cleanness, cure, as well as time (first hits are best?) and temperature. It can, I think, become impossible to sort out blindfolded?

And then, of course we have the Sales types, bless 'em. They'll say 'it's 100% non GMO' if there's money in it.......

Good point. Not only not really always true, but not even real just because someone says it is. Think about it, to heat something to 400F using hot air, the air has to start out hotter than 400F? A LOT hotter.......

OF

 

[lookhigh]

The flavor is good in the Fury2. Just try keeping the temp down.

 

[Jill NYC]

@mccringleberry

If you ever have an issue with one of our vaporizers - we pay for all the shipping except for the return shipping.
All of our vaporizers carry the following two warranties.
1. Lifetime 1/2 price replacement warranty.
2. One year free replacement warranty.

Plus, they have stellar, and I mean stellar customer service! (I know you love the gaboof which has pretty much NO CS, this will be a shock to your system!)

As far as flavor, if you use the glass mouthpieces (wpa or other) the flavor is better than the native mouthpiece.
Personally, it is only a smidgen better for me, but others feel there is a big difference between the native mp and glass ones.
The flavor is good, just not outstanding. And, unlike the Mighty (Crafty), the flavor is still decent after a few hits. I never find it to degrade to a point where I am not enjoying the hit, while with the Crafty, if I go back later to finish a bowl, I find the flavor is terrible almost insulting to my tastebuds.
I don’t have an answer as to why, and this is all subjective anyway. All I can say is the flavor is above average for me, but not top level. Quite honestly, I think flavor is comparable to the Gaboof (although I lost mine a year or so and have never tested together, so take that with a grain of salt).

@VapeReady what is more important to you? Portability? Battery life? You cannot go wrong with any of your choices.

 

[hinglemccringleberry]

Thank you OF and JillNYC. Yeah I do love the Alfa but I'm tired of having to break out the elaborate "cleaning-screen removing-grinding-finegrinding-loading-tamping" kit and taking half a day off work just to find time to clean and load it (exaggerating of course). I dont need another session style vape.
I want something that I can use OTG/AYG like the Vapcap where I get big performance out of tiny loads but without the use of a torch lighter which has its own set of hassles. I would be splitting my daily driver duties between this and the Vapcap. It looks like the Fury 2 with the glass MP is even lower maintenance than the Vapcap, which is very appealing. But I'm also a little bit scared to use a vape like this every day because of what that would do to the battery long term. My Alfa is still running strong after 2 years of ownership, but I don't use it as a DD. That's why I needed to know about the F2 warranty.

 

[bossman]

Hmmm this decision is tough i'm hesitating between solo, mighty, or fury 2.

I've said this on other threads so forgive any regulars if I'm sounding like a broken record: the Fury 2 was my first vape and I had it for several months before getting any others. Since buying a Solo II I only ever use the Fury 2 vaping out. The Solo II is just better and I mostly vape at home. I haven't tried a Mighty. I only vape around .1 to .15g though so a Solo stem from halfway to full is tied with my Omni XL for efficiency, effectiveness, and vapor quality. I'm still a Fury fan and it might regain a place at home now that I got a D020.

 

[Hackerman]

The Fury2 is a carry.

I don't have a Solo2 but my Solo1 has a giant glass mouth oiece, not so carry friendly. And, the Mighty.... OMG! Have you seen one in person? You better because that sucker is a LOT bigger than I thought it was from all the pictures. It is easily 2 to 3 times the size I thought it was. Need a backpack to carry that sucker (j/k) Not that that is bad. Just unexpected. The Crafty is about the size I thought the Mighty was.

My Fury2 is great except I am a chain smoker and the battery just didn't make it. I took an extra battery pack and charged it once but, even then, it was easier to take a box mod and some rosin when I go out.

I love my Fury2. And, I hate everything.

 

[paytonpenn]

This is where I get confused - The Solo is a conduction vape, the F2 is mostly convection. Everyone in the vaping universe talks about how convection gives better flavor than conduction. So how can the F2 flavor not be as good as the Solo?

I think it's material choice and temps.

All around I think the Arizer portable line is more flavor neutral even when at high temps. The all glass stem system for the Arizers are where they get another advantage in purity/neutralness. I actually think the wider heater/airpath helps improve flavor as well. (Not saying restriction is better but the bigger diameter bowl results in more flavor)

Fury does see advantage in flavor when using all glass stems but no matter what, once you go past 390ish flavor takes a small turn and it doesn't seem as neutral like it was for the lower temps. Flavor is not bad with Fury, very acceptable and better than most vapes along with providing a better extraction at low temps than others.

 

[VapeReady]

This is where I get confused - The Solo is a conduction vape, the F2 is mostly convection. Everyone in the vaping universe talks about how convection gives better flavor than conduction. So how can the F2 flavor not be as good as the Solo?

Also, what is the warranty on the F2? I can't seem to find that info anywhere on their website, or in this thread. I thought I read something on reddit about it being 1 year, with a lifetime 50% off warranty as well. Can someone confirm?

The solo is not conduction, it's conduction and convection too... Just like the mighty is semi conduction semi convection... Hence why they are such good vapes and so reputed...

But on the other side are they really precise on temperature? What's the ratio of the conduction and convection temperature when you set it at a certain temperature...? Nobody will know for sure if the temperature you set it to, is really THAT correct once it starts to roasts your herb...

Pure convection on the other hand is also tricky because you always have some temperature loss when the air flows... I guess this is a test that has to be executed by the NASA to know for sure...

I don't wanna flame any brands but i bet so many vaporizers out there are really incorrect on temperature settings even the more reputable ones...

 

[StonerSloth]

There are a few standout characteristics of the Fury which make it an A+ flower portable for me.

Besides the minuscule size and visual stealth of looking like an ecig, the best part is the quick extraction! If you are in a hurry and just want to rip a stealthy bowl as fast as possible, it is the best there is IMHO. If you are really in a rush, you can crank the temp to 430 and kill a bowl in just a few draws. The open draw really helps here.

You can even use it as a quasi-on-demand vape by beginning your draw well before the vape is up to temp and turning it off when you are about done your draw - this is a technique I picked up from @paytonpenn I believe.

 

[hinglemccringleberry]

But on the other side are they really precise on temperature? What's the ratio of the conduction and convection temperature when you set it at a certain temperature...? Nobody will know for sure if the temperature you set it to, is really THAT correct once it starts to roasts your herb...

Pure convection on the other hand is also tricky because you always have some temperature loss when the air flows... I guess this is a test that has to be executed by the NASA to know for sure...

I don't wanna flame any brands but i bet so many vaporizers out there are really incorrect on temperature settings even the more reputable ones...

Agreed. Using the F2 w/ glass stem and the Arizer portables as the example, since they're so similar, the whole "wow look at the F2's vapor production at only 360F" is probably because the devices have different interpretations of "360". And the taste going out the door at 390 where the Arizer vapes don't, is probably for the same reason. The 2 vapes using the same form factor, hybrid heating, glass air path, and load size are producing great flavor and diminished flavor at the same temps, but the Fury 2's temp reading is probably low, and the Arizer's isn't, so there's this illusion that the Solo/Air has better flavor when its more likely that the biggest difference between the two is the accuracy of the temp readout.

 

[bossman]

Those last five posts are all dead on and thoughtfully slot the Fury 2 in the respectable place it deserves. Nicely done, FC.

 

[BabyFacedFinster]

Cases can be fun. Consider compact camera hard cases like the VM is in above. Made with rounded corners, and a bit of 'give' in the zipper, they're designed to 'ride well' in a pocket despite being hard. The soft version is also very nice in the correct size, here's the one my MFLB travels in with the contents below:

Also a 'doob tube', another excellent stash container, very vapor tight (dual seals), holds up to a gram of goods, ready to use. Bigger than most pockets, but come in many sizes like the camera cases.

Or not.

Regards,

OF

That's exactly what I was thinking of. I might have an old camera sitting in something similar to that case with a double zipper.

Maybe the doob tubes will be right for holding several loaded caps. That would be great since those things are like a buck each I think.

I just took the Fury with me on an afternoon walk with my family. While everyone was walking, talking and looking around, I was hitting that Fury over and over. No one even noticed I had anything in my hand. I did shut off the lights-option which I don't understand the purpose of. Is it supposed to be a disco effect or something? Anyway, I start off at 375F. After a bunch of hits I'll pop off the mp, tap the load into my palm and give it a light crush with my finger. I use the Fury itself to scoop the load back into the bowl, turn it up to 390F and hit it a few more times.

In keeping the bowl clean I find it very important to dump the old load while the unit is still warm. Emptying a cold, spent load causes a lot of gunk left behind that needs to be cleaned out. Times where I got high and fell asleep before emptying a bowl, I'll heat it back up first, hit it a few times to get the heat through the ABV, then dump it out. Bowl stays much cleaner that way.

Now with all this talk of dumping and tapping loads, this should be very enticing to the jerks at the Out of Context thread, I'm sure. Just remember people, it's not about the dirty sanchez or the rusty trombone. It's not about the butt hole pleasures or the shit stained balls. It's about love.

 

[OF]

Maybe the doob tubes will be right for holding several loaded caps. That would be great since those things are like a buck each I think.

In keeping the bowl clean I find it very important to dump the old load while the unit is still warm. Emptying a cold, spent load causes a lot of gunk left behind that needs to be cleaned out.

Yep, 'bout that. PIU sells 'em. I'm sure several capsules will fit, as sure as I can be without trying anyway. Doob Tubes are pretty big, really. Time will tell.

By way of not fouling, try being sure your herb is well cured first (read 'dry'). As we found on MFLB years ago moisture seems to be a key, although I don't recall a widely supported reason. It just is. If you think about it, you need to evaporate all the water (using energy that would otherwise make vapor) before you can make the vapor we're after. More so in vapes like MFLB where energy (heat) is at a premium, although it's happening in F2 as well (we just have gobs of battery power to call on).

If I get damp herb, I'll grind it and set it out to dry before use. The top of my router is the usual place, it's a bit warmer there. I'm new to F2, a several dozen loads, shy of 100, but no fouling issues, everything brushes out easily. Nothing is gooey.

Give it a try?

OF

 

[VapeReady]

Agreed. Using the F2 w/ glass stem and the Arizer portables as the example, since they're so similar, the whole "wow look at the F2's vapor production at only 360F" is probably because the devices have different interpretations of "360". And the taste going out the door at 390 where the Arizer vapes don't, is probably for the same reason. The 2 vapes using the same form factor, hybrid heating, glass air path, and load size are producing great flavor and diminished flavor at the same temps, but the Fury 2's temp reading is probably low, and the Arizer's isn't, so there's this illusion that the Solo/Air has better flavor when its more likely that the biggest difference between the two is the accuracy of the temp readout.

I'm a little confused now. Are you saying that when the temperature of the fury is set to 360 your herb gets actually roasted at 390? What makes you say that the Arizer doesn't do that? Do you also mean that Solo II is more precise on temperature?

 

[LesPlenty]

I'm a little confused now. Are you saying that when the temperature of the fury is set to 360 your herb gets actually roasted at 390? What makes you say that the Arizer doesn't do that? Do you also mean that Solo II is more precise on temperature?

He says probably a lot in his explanation, I would say he is just bent and his fingers are rambling

 

[lookhigh]

Try a full nug for more flavor.

 

[stark1]

It’s saying something when you see OF in the Fury thread.

 

[OF]

It’s saying something when you see OF in the Fury thread.

Boredom?

Naw, just following a tip from @Vitolo. He dubbed F2 as being a prime choice for the serious MMJ users he supports. Very smart and dedicated guy in case you don't know him, a seriously credit to FC and 'the community'. We can surely use more like him......

Anyway, I followed his tip and here I am. Hoping to help when I can, planning to enjoy and learn some more in the process.

Thanks very much for the complement......that's the way I prefer to see it anyway.

Regards to all,

OF

 

[hinglemccringleberry]

I'm a little confused now. Are you saying that when the temperature of the fury is set to 360 your herb gets actually roasted at 390? What makes you say that the Arizer doesn't do that? Do you also mean that Solo II is more precise on temperature?

No im saying that most vapes are a bit inaccurate on the temp reading. The f2 is probably a bit hotter than 360 when you put it on 360 which would explain the big clouds at that temp. Its not a full 30 degrees off though, its far less than that, maybe just a few degrees.

He says probably a lot in his explanation, I would say he is just bent and his fingers are rambling

at least I keep the thread on topic

 

[rozroz]

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You can even use it as a quasi-on-demand vape by beginning your draw well before the vape is up to temp and turning it off when you are about done your draw - this is a technique I picked up from @paytonpenn I believe.

this. especially when microdosing it's very important to keep as much "beef" from conducting, so shutting it off after around 70% pull is a must.
i definitely notice a bit of post conduction as opposed to a pure convection such as my Tubo.

 

[Jill NYC]

I recently got my first (and second) Vapcap. I mention it here, because it was the first time I’d used a carb hole since my combustion days, several years ago.

Then I read this last week, and it got me intrigued:

So, I got into a habit of placing a finger over the intake holes at the end of the session to add some more heat in there to finish it...

I finally remembered to try it tonight - basically use the air intake holes like the carb hole on my VC. Closing them off completely for a few seconds and then feathering made for some extra thick clouds! Of course by doing this, it makes draw resistance tougher, but fun to do none the less.
I highly recommend trying it out at least once!


@OF (and others who mentioned same thing) - it should be completely closed off when you cover the air intake holes. If you have air coming in from somewhere else, I am pretty sure you should get it fixed. Here’s an old post from @HealthyRips.com

In response to your observation: "My vaped pinky finger always wants to block the air inlet holes." If you put your finger on the intake hole - you will not get any airflow. This is a good thing - it demonstrates that the air path is completely isolated from the electronics and 100% healthy

 

[Polarbearboy]

"frosty234 said: ↑
Is there a release for the capsules yet?"
HR said: "Hi, Yes - we just got word that the capsules will be finished on May 2nd. We should have them on our website by May 10th."

Got my fingers crossed. I've had my F2 since January and pretty much only use it with the WPA and the bent glass. Bought it specifically because HR said in December that dosing caps would be arriving soon. I spend a lot of time outside and I adore the S-B dosing caps for my Crafty, infinitely easier to load in wind/snow, much cleaner, convenient. Looking forward to the HR dosing caps so that I can use my F2 in the field, as it heats up so much faster, I like the smaller form factor, and I like being able to adjust the temp without needing to keep my phone handy.

 

[hinglemccringleberry]

Im finding it impossible to resist owning one of these and have just a few more questions before pulling the trigger.
-I know the unit has almost no draw resistance with the stock mouthpiece. How much resistance do the glass WPAs/mouthpieces add?
-Does the vapor path collect flower particulates all the way to the end like my Sticky Brick Jr, (which would be highly visible with the bent stem) or does it only collect oil residue? If it collects alot of particles I will run an additional filter.

I've had my F2 since January and pretty much only use it with the WPA and the bent glass.

Do you notice a difference in the vapor quality between the bent glass MP and the WPA when used as the MP? I want to use the glass as my full time MP...im not going to use the stock MP at all. So now i have to decide if the extra bulk of the bent stem is worth it. If it produces noticeably cooler vapor than the WPA when used as a MP, i will get the bent stem.

 

[Duba81]

Im finding it impossible to resist owning one of these and have just a few more questions before pulling the trigger.
-Is there a difference in draw resistance between the stock mouthpiece and the glass WPAs/mouthpieces?
-Does the vapor path collect flower particulates all the way to the end like my Sticky Brick Jr, or does it only collect oil residue? If it collects alot of particles I will run an additional filter.

Do you notice a difference in the vapor quality between the bent glass MP and the WPA when used as the MP? I want to use the glass as my full time MP...im not going to use the stock MP at all. So now i have to decide if the extra bulk of the bent stem is worth it. If it produces noticeably cooler vapor than the WPA when used as a MP, i will get the bent stem.

To answer some of your questions, this is exactly how I use mine pretty much 95% of the time, both with the xl wpa and bent mouthpiece. I actually prefer the bent one, as it does noticeably cool the Vapor vs the wpa. Not sure if it is due to the bend, or slightly longer path it has to travel, or both, but it works. You can also swivel it around so it bends back towards the screen, when used in this way it is only marginally more bulky then the wpa. The bent stem seems to catch a decent amount of both reclaim and tiny particulate, especially when it's getting coated with honey. I've never experienced any super noticeable scooby snacks with either, but based on the amount in the stem, it wouldn't shock me either, but 99% of them don't seem to make it past the bend in the glass. It all very, very tiny particles, like a grain of sand or slightly bigger. Draw resistance doesn't seem to take a hit with the glass, unless you pack it too tight. I hope this helps, and if you have any more questions, please fire away!

 

[OyVape]

While the bent glass is my favorite for both taste
and ergonomics, I wouldn’t say it is “noticeably cooler” than the WPA.