Has Colorado THC Potency Become Too High?

[Magic9]

"I knew this day would come, when a liberal president allowed a state to legally sell Marijuana Flintstone Vitamins to children."

"For every one joint of marijuana, four teenagers become burdened with pregnancy. And for every bag of marijuana candy sold, it seems 16 violent crimes in the 16 to 45-year-old cohort break down."

Wtf does that even mean? Seriously though, I heard too much makes you gay and and you'll suffocate babies so be careful.

 

[samantabha]

LOL!!!

 

[Caligula]

Seriously though, I heard too much makes you gay and and you'll suffocate babies so be careful.

True story.

 

[samantabha]

1995 report prepared for the World Health Organization (WHO): "There are no recorded cases of overdose fatalities attributed to cannabis, and the estimated lethal dose for humans extrapolated from animal studies is so high that it cannot be achieved by recreational users" ['A Comparative Appraisal of the Health and Psychological Consequences of Alcohol, Cannabis, Nicotine and Opiate Use' - University of New South Wales: National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre, Wayne Hall].

That one statement upends everything. One of my friends once told me "The doctor prescribed this pill for my depression but I read the label and one of the possible side effects was death". She refused to take the pills. But they were legal and they were marketed aggressively - and legally - and a lot of other people did take them. According to the Journal of the American Medical Association, over 105,000 people are killed each year by prescription drugs (290 people a day). And let's not mention deaths by LEGAL nicotine and alcohol...

It's done. The argument is over. Time to end the insanity and let the PLANTS be free. (posting this on FB)

 

[tuk]

I honestly don't even personally enjoy edibles, but I think banning candy like edibles is absurd. Whether people like it or not, cannabis is not some hard drug that if ingested is going kill you. The worst thing that's going to happen if an incredibly irresponsible adult let's a child get ahold of a few pieces of thc candy, is the kid might have a panic attack. That's literally the WORST CASE scenario (within reason.)

You say panic attack like it's nothing so I can only assume you've never had a full blown panic attack.

I've over dosed on edibles and seen quite a few seasoned drug taking adults freak out to the point where they needing looking after by another adult until the effects wear off.

Can you imagine what this experience would be like for a child with zero psychoactive drug experience? What about a situation where a kid goes out to play after eating edibles, then does something stupid like run across a road without looking to get a way from the bats?

That's healthy kids, what about kids with mental health issues, underlying or presenting?

Not even mentioned the adults yet....

Cannabis should be treated like any other medicine, we've been shouting for long enough that it's a medicine so why should anyone object to it being treated as such, if you want to sell edibles fine, just put them in a standard medicine container, problem solved, no drama.

....& what's the worst that could happen from banning the sale of edibles? ...people might have to bake their own...ohhhh scary run for hills, the government is coming with their laws n shit!

 

[samantabha]

Well said, Tuk. It's almost exactly what I've been thinking. Panic attacks can throw a person (and imagine, yes, a child....) into the ER. I've had them and I've been there. Also, I have young children so my natural protective instinct is to go for the greatest possible safety measure. I had a nasty experience recently with some chocolate edibles. It was a Maureen Dowd kind of bad trip. I'm acquainted with panic attacks and I've had other bad trips and I've read a lot about how to deal with panic attacks and bad trips. So when I went through my intense anxiety after overdosing I could tell myself "this is just a bad trip, it'll be over in a few hours, and I'm not going to die". A novice to drugs, a child, doesn't have this kind of mechanism built up. It could be horrifying for them. I agree that it's not going to kill them. But why should something that looks like a piece of candy carry the possible shock of a psychotic-like episode?

(that said, my favorite way to take THC is my gummies.....even if the initial bang may be paranoia, the rest of the day is just FINE)

 

[Magic9]

It all comes down to responsibility. It is the parent that should lock up the alcohol, scripts, and edibles. If it falls into a kids hands, it's the parent that fucked up. I think we all agree that truth in labeling and a child resistant packaging are needed, but to suggest the banning of edibles because someone will fuck up is kind of absurd. Same can be said for almost anything. We can't ban driving because a kid might steal the car keys.

What about a situation where a kid goes out to play after eating edibles, then does something stupid like run across a road without looking to get a way from the bats?

In that situation, the parent fucked up. Same as if they left some candy flavored alcohol out. Or a bottle of pills. In which case they might die without running across a road. What about a situation where you feed the kid bs and they get obese and die later of heart disease? Should we ban fast food now, too? Backyard pools kill far more kids each year than edibles. So pools are far more dangerous. Ban them? Where does banning something for what might happen end?

Cannabis should be treated like any other medicine, we've been shouting for long enough that it's a medicine so why should anyone object to it being treated as such, if you want to sell edibles fine, just put them in a standard medicine container, problem solved, no drama.

A standard childproof container is a great idea. Treating cannabis like any other medicine, not so much. It is non-toxic and natural. That can't be said for many/most of other medicines.

....& what's the worst that could happen from banning the sale of edibles? ...people might have to bake their own...ohhhh scary run for hills, the government is coming with their laws n shit!

I get the humor. I even chuckled a bit at first. Then I remembered the last time the govt. came with their laws n shit! Under the guise of protecting children and humanity itself even. Scary shit indeed for those facing charges, prison, losing their kids, scholarships, fed. funding for college, and all the other ways they use to opress a plant.

The worst though, is taking rights from the many, under the cloak of protecting a few.

 

[samantabha]

It all comes down to responsibility. It is the parent that should lock up the alcohol, scripts, and edibles. If it falls into a kids hands, it's the parent that fucked up. I think we all agree that truth in labeling and a child resistant packaging are needed, but to suggest the banning of edibles because someone will fuck up is kind of absurd. Same can be said for almost anything. We can't ban driving because a kid might steal the car keys.



In that situation, the parent fucked up. Same as if they left some candy flavored alcohol out. Or a bottle of pills. In which case they might die without running across a road. What about a situation where you feed the kid bs and they get obese and die later of heart disease? Should we ban fast food now, too? Backyard pools kill far more kids each year than edibles. So pools are far more dangerous. Ban them? Where does banning something for what might happen end?



A standard childproof container is a great idea. Treating cannabis like any other medicine, not so much. It is non-toxic and natural. That can't be said for many/most of other medicines.



I get the humor. I even chuckled a bit at first. Then I remembered the last time the govt. came with their laws n shit! Under the guise of protecting children and humanity itself even. Scary shit indeed for those facing charges, prison, losing their kids, scholarships, fed. funding for college, and all the other ways they use to opress a plant.

The worst though, is taking rights from the many, under the cloak of protecting a few.

Oh damn, I like this post too. Good points.

I don't want to see edibles banned. They're so convenient, so tasty, so long lasting. They deliver - and discreetly. My favorite little ritual is 2 gummies or chocolates (20 mg) and vape. The vape provides the rapid punch, the candy a long lasting multivariant and incredibly smooth experience. it should be done in the morning so as to fully utilize the whole day, maximize its potential. Going outside, into nature, should be an option. Music is mandatory. I may or may not desire to eat. Merely Looking at Things could consume an hour. Like now, I'm so at the right level of toasted. Which means a kind of super-peace that is filled with endless doors opening out into every interesting subject. All is good and offering itself up to me effortlessly. Nonetheless, I did take some time off from the trampoline, the swing and 3 glazed donuts to perform a HOUSEHOLD TASK. I had to run my daughter's immunization record form over to the Medical Clinic. I was really happy to see people there and quickly tried to engage them with funny dialogue. Didn't work too well; they just seemed grim. like they had kind of rigid wall up, performing perfunctory language with these curious tic-like body movements. No smiles or languor at all. Cross faces, like they hate their jobs but feel they have to keep at their role. I do question the motives of straight people. Do they WANT to be unhappy in their lives? Don't they WANT to go outside and feel the summer breeze and the sun and look at a bee on a flower or walk slowly smiling into the whole ocean of Paradise? I think it might just be my mission in life to help drag my friends there kicking and screaming....
Sorry, I think I wrote off-topic. I can't bear to delete my paragraph though. I worked so hard on it.
Back to edibles: they're good and we should have free access to them.

 

[HarmlessJohnny_5]

If people are silly enough to eat nothing but empty carbs and don't exercise, they will certainly be at a greater risk of getting diabetes. Is this what freedom has come to, the freedom not to be responsible for our own actions? Should we have the freedom to harm ourselves, even if the result burdens society? Perhaps we should have to sign a waiver when we buy a fucking twinkie.

My good sir, it is Freedom! that is at the heart of this. We all have Freedom!, Freedom! of choice, Freedom for our rights!! and of course, there is one basic freedom, indeed sir, it is the very Freedom! upon which all the others are based. it is the freedom to 'take the consequences' for our choices Yes, we are free to make foolish decisions, and as some of those people found out there were free to take the consequences.

they can now see that although there were free to "Dose Real Heavy" while the marijuana may not have cured their defective brains it at least gave them an opportunity to lean they then get to experience the freedom to "Get Real Smashed". A wonderful learning opportunity

 

[t-dub]

it is the very Freedom! upon which all the others are based. it is the freedom to 'take the consequences' for our choices Yes, we are free to make foolish decisions, and as some of those people found out there were free to take the consequences.

ok, but the "herd mentality" types will say "Your bad decisions are a drain upon society and squander precious resources. I shouldn't have to pay for your health care if you make bad decisions." So I guess it comes down to refusing goverment care/services for people who test positive for things like high fructose corn syrup, nicotine, cannabis, excess salt, non compliance for vaccinations etc. How this type of "medical martial law" will affect your patient rights, due process or anything remotely connected to personal autonomy and freedom in the future is anyones guess.

 

[HarmlessJohnny_5]

ok, but the "herd mentality" types will say "Your bad decisions are a drain upon society and squander precious resources. I shouldn't have to pay for your health care if you make bad decisions." So I guess it comes down to refusing goverment care/services for people who test positive for things like high fructose corn syrup, nicotine, cannabis, excess salt, non compliance for vaccinations etc. How this type of "medical martial law" will affect your patient rights, due process or anything remotely connected to personal autonomy and freedom in the future is anyones guess.

yeah, and the argument, just as it's converse, contains value. The people you just described do not. Hahaa that's so dehumanizing Seriously though, whenever I hear people say thing like that I have to wonder as to the details of their situation and if what they are 'really' saying (this applies to so many political situations on both sides it seems), is:

"I think the laws should be adjusted to favor myself, it is only right due to the following reasons I will produce but probably do not care about or bother to question".
but the above being phrased into slogans and facts and arguments and such instead of being stated like that.

 

[Crohnie]

Ha! With my tolerance, I would LOVE to experience THC potency in an edible that was too high. All the commercial edibles I've experienced so far have left me wanting. Now back in the day, when I had a friend who made some kick ass brownies, that's another story!

 

[aj0125]

Yeah, I just laugh when they tell me at the dispensary to be careful with a caramel that has 40mg in it. I could easily eat over 20 of those and still be left wanting...

 

[Crohnie]

Budtender: "Be careful, Sir. This edible has 250mg of THC!"

Me: "I'll remember to be careful." *represses hysterical laughter*

 

[snamuh]

Personally I think all this is kind of crazy. both sides... the people talking about their high tolerances and the people that whine because they can't handle it. there the same people.

for most of my time consuming I've been on the low dose side (and try to keep my consumption down), in the past I smoked enough for me to be high all the time (years, lol), but not the large amounts Ive seen other regulars smoke. I always found it annoying when people would expect me hit it more than i wanted to. same goes for drinking... but i'm not going to try to make it hard for them to do what they want. it would be dope if people were more open minded about it though. Think of the same scenario but replaced with some other thing like food or coffee....it's just pointless (again both sides).

its like the politics of drug consumption... two sides making a big deal out of something that is nothing.

Everybody is different, that's life. Do what you want just don't go pushing extremes like the other side. No one cares how much someone else can drink or smoke, like i don't care how much someone eats for breakfast lunch or dinner. I get that sometimes when people talk like that (how much they can consume) its often just "small talk" and it's not there intention to project the mindset that I am talking about... its just that sometimes people act like it's a badge of pride or something.

It's like around here (hometown) when I tell people I want more cbd... everyone just tells me "why it doesnt get you high"... and then my heart sinks and i lose faith in the movement. haha

I've always thought that this is something that they should use legalization profits on... to teach... to break this strange "pissing contest" view of drug consumption. My view could be skewed because family members had alcohol addiction issues, and I was very dependent on weed (thankfully it wasn't something "really" addicting). idk I just feel like it would be useful to teach people how to use drugs. instead they teach kids to get fucked up when they're 21. (yet the same people okay with that are against other drugs...)

weed taught me what addiction is. and mushrooms taught me that its okay to fuck up, lol. both taught me more than any person has. So i will fight for that. I will never fight for someone that pushes the illusion that the amount you consume has any meaning other than they need to pay more to get what they want.

Don't get caught in the drama!

Weed getting to potent for me is helping me quit... because I for some reason i can't lower the amount I smoke... I smoke the same amount out of habit and I always get way too high. it's easier for me to just not get it anymore. I would rather have the option to get low potency weed and have longer sessions if I feel the need to get higher.

Why complain about it or debate it? Just keep pushing the fact that this is an incredible plant and both sides can gain what they need from it. If the fact is accepted that EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT.

 

[aj0125]

I for one am definitely not bragging, I would trade places with a light weight in a second (for everything). I was the guy in high school who said I was jealous when people would call the light weights "fucking pussies". I am only complaining about my high tolerance because it costs me a lot of money. I do not have the space nor skill to make the flowers, oils, and edibles I desire and curing severe insomnia and stomach pain (we got some great CBD strains here, still expensive) at this tolerance kills my wallet. Sorry, I had to write this: the post above this made me sad because it is the exact opposite of what I have always tried to say. I really hate pissing contests: everyone just ends up with piss on their shoes.

I am glad dispensaries tell people to be careful, because most people are lightweights. I wish they had more potency variety and I also wish they had more 100% CBD edibles available for times/people when other components are not desired (although the full flower has always brought me the best relief).