lwien
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Yup, and when one finally realizes that, it fuels the drive to finally quit. When one rationalizes that those are not the only two options, that fuel turns to water.
Has anyone struggled with giving up smoking cigarettes?
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Yup, and when one finally realizes that, it fuels the drive to finally quit. When one rationalizes that those are not the only two options, that fuel turns to water.
Ansel
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Let me guess: you are an ex-smoker. Now, if this was coming from a never smoker i could well believe it but there is no greater sinner than a sinner saved as i have said before and will say again.
lwien
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Ummm...........care to elaborate a bit? Not quite sure where you coming from with that statement.
Ansel
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well it just means that personally speaking it seems to be the ex-smokers i talk to that are more anti smoking than the never smokers... which suggests to me that many of these ex smokers are bitter that they gave up the habit... sour grapes if you like. YMMV.
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
That's completely wrong. I'm not bitter that I gave up smoking. I'm grateful that I won't die of COPD like my Dad did. He smoked for 40 years. I lost him in 2005.
max
Out to lunch
My sour grapes consist of memories of coughing up gunk from my lungs, being short winded, having blood flow restricted from certain parts of my body, heart palpitations, ruined taste buds and sense of smell, spending money I could have put to better use, my clothes smelling bad, nic stains on everything in my smoking area.... I could go on but my point is made I think.
I think you'd have to be nuts to be bitter about quitting. If you don't get any positives from being an ex-smoker, most will just start back again. Nobody is forced to quit unless they get tossed in a prison where it's banned.
I probably would have ended up with that too, sooner or later.Vicki said:
lwien
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knowmad
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Suffer ongoing physical/psychological ailments, or three days worth -are your options.
Ansel
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hmm well i can name at least 3 people i know who HAVE quit for a LONG time and you know what... they miss it. They regret quitting even after such a long time. Some developed depression or anxiety... others just lost their sparkle. You've got to die of something.
knowmad
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Your thinking and writing suggests to me that you're an idiot.
You've lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned.
knowmad
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Ansel
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my friend just shared this article with me... looks pretty promising in favour of nicotine...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC526783/pdf/pbio.0020404.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC526783/pdf/pbio.0020404.pdf
FrogBoy138
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Sounds like you have a few sociopaths in your group they can be hard to spot sometimes. It's best to confront them before they spread like roaches. Sometimes people say stupid stuff to me as well I try to use good judgment and not believe everything I'm told.
Unconnected
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Hmm, trying to quit the smokes now, read most of the first page and i hope everyone trying to stay off the darts is doing well, fuck they are disgusting. So far over the past month i have smoked about 5 cigerettes and chewed a about 10 bits of nicotine gum (i find i really need a smoke to get me out of bed in the am) but now been about a week of no gum and no cigs and feeling like i have pushed through the cutting down phase and into the never fucking again ever phase. Thats the hardest part for me, to think about never, in the next 60 odd years if i dont get hit by a bus or get cancer, can i smoke another.
Vaping has helped, i try to get stoned if i ever get a craving, but tbh i am quitting early, before it becomes a huge issue. i have been a social smoker since i was 15 (22atm) and in the last year i started to smoke 5 or so a day, this was because i had to quit bud for 4 months for uni and started smoking cigerettes often to replace it. Big mistake.
But now i must quit, there is a girl i like who im almost certainly about to start going out with whom id do anything for, i know the smokes are a bit of an issue for her so im committed to getting rid of it for good. I feel like the motivation is the absolute key, i dont actually mind the smokes and would keep smoking if not for her, but once i knew she was keen, bam, it was easy to put them down.
i was once obese, lost 45kg in 9 months, i dont even know how i barely exercised, it was all in the mind, my brain knew it was time to lose weight and it gave me the power to stick to a diet. Once you have motivation its amazing what you can do.
Vaping has helped, i try to get stoned if i ever get a craving, but tbh i am quitting early, before it becomes a huge issue. i have been a social smoker since i was 15 (22atm) and in the last year i started to smoke 5 or so a day, this was because i had to quit bud for 4 months for uni and started smoking cigerettes often to replace it. Big mistake.
But now i must quit, there is a girl i like who im almost certainly about to start going out with whom id do anything for, i know the smokes are a bit of an issue for her so im committed to getting rid of it for good. I feel like the motivation is the absolute key, i dont actually mind the smokes and would keep smoking if not for her, but once i knew she was keen, bam, it was easy to put them down.
i was once obese, lost 45kg in 9 months, i dont even know how i barely exercised, it was all in the mind, my brain knew it was time to lose weight and it gave me the power to stick to a diet. Once you have motivation its amazing what you can do.
Ansel
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Nope not sociopaths, regular people like me and, er, you.
lwien
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This is the PERFECT link for this thead:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/21/health/smoking-last-cigarette-irpt/index.html?hpt=hp_c3
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/21/health/smoking-last-cigarette-irpt/index.html?hpt=hp_c3
VaporsVaporizer
On the Stoop
I just got back from my Pulmonology visit. I go every 3 months because i have Emphysema from smoking cigarettes for 42 years. I was smoke free for 4.5 years but relapsed last year. I smoked again for about a month, but i felt awful and wanted to stop, so i switched to an E-cig to wean myself down. I figured it was the lesser of two evils.
5 months later and i'm still on the ecig, but vaping much less nicotine, about 5mg in my E-juice.
I have to say something remarkable has happened. I have noticed that my lungs feel so much better, i have more energy, i'm not struggling to get up a flight of stairs, and i can walk farther without becoming breathless. My friends have noticed this too. So at my exam today My Dr, who i've been seeing for 7 years said "you're moving good air in your lungs" he's never said that to me.
I told him i had been reluctant on my last visit to say i'd relapsed and was smoking again but was using an E-cig. He asked me all about them and what was in them and i showed him mine and used it in the office. He was impressed and said he's going to research them and didn't tell me to stop
He did ask how i knew about vaporization and i finally told him i vape weed. He asked if i vaped everyday and i did LIE because i don't think he'd be down with that 
and i don't want to be labeled a "drug addict" . I told him i do it socially 
I'm very social He said he had a man in yesterday with emphysema thats smoking a pack or more a day and he took a card for my Vape store here in NYC to give to the man 
I'm not the only one with Emphysema who feels better on E-cigs, there are other similar results from people on the web.
So now all my family members who were concerned about my E-cig use can STFU, it's Dr approved
5 months later and i'm still on the ecig, but vaping much less nicotine, about 5mg in my E-juice.
I have to say something remarkable has happened. I have noticed that my lungs feel so much better, i have more energy, i'm not struggling to get up a flight of stairs, and i can walk farther without becoming breathless. My friends have noticed this too. So at my exam today My Dr, who i've been seeing for 7 years said "you're moving good air in your lungs" he's never said that to me.
I told him i had been reluctant on my last visit to say i'd relapsed and was smoking again but was using an E-cig. He asked me all about them and what was in them and i showed him mine and used it in the office. He was impressed and said he's going to research them and didn't tell me to stop
He did ask how i knew about vaporization and i finally told him i vape weed. He asked if i vaped everyday and i did LIE because i don't think he'd be down with that and i don't want to be labeled a "drug addict" . I told him i do it socially I'm very social He said he had a man in yesterday with emphysema thats smoking a pack or more a day and he took a card for my Vape store here in NYC to give to the man I'm not the only one with Emphysema who feels better on E-cigs, there are other similar results from people on the web.
So now all my family members who were concerned about my E-cig use can STFU, it's Dr approved
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X2! that's the key to quitting is being able to get past the times when the urge kicks in. The frequency and duration of these events will lessen with time.
I cheated and used Oliver Twist Tobacco Pellets for a while..... http://www.oliver-twist.dk
Now, combustion free on all fronts!
Oh, and SoCal ShoutOut to lwien!
lwien
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Oh, and SoCal ShoutOut to lwien!
Back at ya..........
misanthrope
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Tobacco is such a sly and insidious substance, and I am convinced that tobacco growers work to maximize the addictiveness of the plant in the same way herbsmen work to maximize THC content.
Just one turns into two so easily, and just at weekends can slip into every day seemingly without me noticing.
Sadly the fact remains that I really enjoy to consume herbs in a joint with some tobacco, because that is the method I grew up with. Even though vaporizing has been a far more effective and economical method, when I'm passed a joint - that's it.
Really hope I can knock this on the head, but it seems pretty tough. The success stories I've read on this thread do give me hope though. Well done guys!
Just one turns into two so easily, and just at weekends can slip into every day seemingly without me noticing.
Sadly the fact remains that I really enjoy to consume herbs in a joint with some tobacco, because that is the method I grew up with. Even though vaporizing has been a far more effective and economical method, when I'm passed a joint - that's it.
Really hope I can knock this on the head, but it seems pretty tough. The success stories I've read on this thread do give me hope though. Well done guys!