Going from concentrate to flower

[psychonaut]

I've been medicating for quite a while off of concentrate, perhaps maybe 1% flowers. So I am low on concentrate meds this month due to price increase, and had some leftover flower. I am reminded by the effects of the flower in vaporized form vs concentrate. I notice a difference for sure, however there are some variables at play that are not necessarily scientific in nature (i.e. comparing the effects of fresh/frozen concentrate to 6mo cured flower, vaporization temperature of flower in a hand held vape vs concentrate on a nail). The effects do not seem to be linear but different. No surprise considering the materials are cured/consumed differently.

I am sure many of you out there have rediscovered flowers after years of concentrate use, especially with new products like the flowerpot to bring current enail users back towards flower consumption. I am actually amazed at how medicated I am after a 0.3gr flower bowl in my crafty.

 

[TastyClouds]

As somone who probably consumes 50% flowers and 50% concentates I know damn well that they both have distinct medical and recreational value. I love the sledge hammer effect of concentrates, but the high isnt as "full bodied" as with flower. You get really "high", but if I want to get "baked" where I am just mentally stuck with a heavy body melting sensation I need to vape flowers for that.

People say dabbing makes you lose appreciation for flowers but I find the opposite to be true- the more I dab without vaping flower, the more my body loses tolerence to the cannabinoids and terpenes that one gets more of when vaping flowers. Thats probably why the .3 out of your crafty is hitting you so hard. And visa versa, when im vaping flowers for a while I get really high off a small dab because my body hasnt had such a high dose of thc in 1 breath in a while. Switching back and forth like that brings out the best of both methods IMO.

 

[alittledabwilldoya']

I've been off the flower for ~2 years now (concentrates only).
My living situation doesn't really allow me to have stinky, dank bud in my house.
Following the FlowerPot thread has had me thinking about going back, but the bud is stinky (which is good, but bad).
Is vaping pretty aromatic?
More so than dabbing?

Anyway, I wouldn't mind seeing if I too experience a different high with flower vs concentrate.

 

[TastyClouds]

I've been off the flower for ~2 years now (concentrates only).
My living situation doesn't really allow me to have stinky, dank bud in my house.
Following the FlowerPot thread has had me thinking about going back, but the bud is stinky (which is good, but bad).
Is vaping pretty aromatic?
More so than dabbing?

Anyway, I wouldn't mind seeing if I too experience a different high with flower vs concentrate.

The short answer is yes, the odor of flowers (especially dank) will always be harder to conceal and even if youre just talking about the vapor, vaped weed always smells more than concentates from my experience. I live with family and cant have my room smell like weed AT ALL but I still vape flowers in my room by using a fan blowing out of a window to create a negative pressure in the room so vapor gets exhausted outside. If you ever give flowers a try again after dabbing for so long, you will almost certainly notice the difference in the effects.

-Check out Budvac jars to store your flower discreetly, they also use negative pressure to ensure 0 chance of leaked smells.

 

[invertedisdead]

I just bought a Flowerpot to get back into dry herbs and it makes flower feel like rosin dabs to me. Very complete, full spectrum effect. I think from being able to extract the whole range of actives so quickly helps the entourage effect. I'm just losing interest in concentrates that I have not processed myself and wanted an easy way to hit flower again.

 

[Diggy Smalls]

I was recently in Cali and got a doctor referral and tried some concentrate for the first time. It was different...not as full of an experience. When I was able to vaporize some flower, it was very distinctly more of a robust high through my body and mind. But then I tried some concentrate AFTER vaping flowers and now I see what the fuss is about. That was awesome.
Now I just have to move to California.

 

[invertedisdead]

I was recently in Cali and got a doctor referral and tried some concentrate for the first time. It was different...not as full of an experience. When I was able to vaporize some flower, it was very distinctly more of a robust high through my body and mind. But then I tried some concentrate AFTER vaping flowers and now I see what the fuss is about. That was awesome.
Now I just have to move to California.

Wait til you try doing them both at the same time, like double deckers through the Flowerpot!!

 

[Danksta]

The Flowerpot has made flower very relevant again for me. I forgot just how good vaped weed can get me medicated. I have also noticed my dabs are getting me higher now that I vape and dab daily. The full spec effects are heavenly and I've been very peaceful this past week. It's doing a number on my anger management and turning me back into the chill dude I once was. Flower is so great. Glad to have it back in my life on a daily basis.

 

[C No Ego]

flower offers terpenes better... those terpenes direct thc/cbd etc... as precursor adjustments... dabs have less bio-directional capability because of evaporated terpenes in the process of making dabs

 

[bizwaxzion]

I've recently gone back to a 50-50 mix of concentrates and flower. I love the "completeness" of the flower experience. I've been following the flower pot thread and I'm finding it very difficult to resist...

 

[invertedisdead]

flower offers terpenes better... those terpenes direct thc/cbd etc... as precursor adjustments... dabs have less bio-directional capability because of evaporated terpenes in the process of making dabs

Full melt dry sift gives you a dabbable product, but with cannabinoid ratios synergistic to the flower. Plus all the terpenes and cannabinoids are sealed in that wax membrane of the glandular trichome head which preserves it.

 

[C No Ego]

Full melt dry sift gives you a dabbable product, but with cannabinoid ratios synergistic to the flower. Plus all the terpenes and cannabinoids are sealed in that wax membrane of the glandular trichome head which preserves it.

These terms ?!? thankfully legal states are more and more= more understood terms

 

[Gigsabits53]

I rarely have access to concentrates but love dabbing when I do get some. Last time it was around I bought 7 grams which last me a long time. I prefer flower though, the taste, effects, basically everything over concentrates. However, I have found no better sleep aid than dabbing. I use most of my wax at bedtime and its glorious!

There is room for both in my way of thinking. I know one thing though, I could go 100% flowers before I could go 100% concentrates.

 

[biohacker]

What a great thread, great posts.... there are similar, but usually mucked up by someone pushing their own ideals and agenda and trying to change people's minds that one is better than another for whatever reason they believe.

I've recently stumbled on to concentrates, love 'em but have to watch my tolerance so mixing them up with flowers is awesome, and i'm loving what some of you are saying about tolerance and switching between flower and concentrates etc. because that's the mission i'm on myself, just trying to figure out what works the best.

I'm mostly concerned about solvents, so stick with rosin and distillates and maybe co2 extractions. I get bad night sweats when I dabble to much with trates, although it could potentially be the high thc and not dirty concentrate solvents.

My biggest reason for concentrates is the ease of use for on the go. I've given up on vaporizers basically, because most of them just suck. I have the flowerpot in the mail, so looking forward to that one, but for portability...fucking waste of time IMO. Wax pens are awesome, just discovered the yocan evolve xl, and while some people hate on it....it's been a game changer for me personally for being able to vape my shatter within seconds, anywhere, discretely.

I'm with the school of thought where if I was to do one over the other it would be flowers by a long shot! But the concentrates are a nice icing on the cake.... feels awesome, just not as full bodied as flowers, and concentrates are way harsher on my pulmonary system if I don't keep the hits SMALL.

 

[shredder]

I'm vaping 95% rosin, and not looking back. It may help that I also grow my own, but my rosin pretty much tastes like the flower it was squeezed from. I doubt I'm loosing much in terpenes either. The taste does fade, but about like flower in that respect.

I have asthma and vaping rosin bothers me much less than flowers. By far my best vape for rosin is my d nail sic halo.

For portable use, I mostly use a dynavap omni with a reshaped concentrate pad from my mighty, and if it's more than just me, we ussually use a mighty and their liquid capsules.

I can't speak for other concentrates as its rare that I try them. Before I made rosin, and when my only nail experience was with torch nails, I would agree with the majority here. But not now. Although I think there still isn't a top notch concentrate exclusive portable vaporizer that I know of. The mighty is close, but not perfect.. I do have a small pen with a ceramic atomizer that I use for quick hits here and there, but it's far from ideal as well.

So as vapes improve and concentrates get better, I think the future is concentrates.

 

[psychonaut]

Shredder, I hear ya on the rosin, it's good stuff. I will never fully abandon concentrates, but the flower path leads to that anyway so it's a great convenience to be able to take flower and process your own meds at home, and even more specifically, some of the most potent possible, assuming knowledge/equipment/capability/etc.

Question for you on the flower irritation, are you using any water filtration? I just received my flowerpot so it's really my first time ever vaping flower through water and was surprised at how smooth it was in comparison to my crafty which will choke the living shit out of me on occasion. In fact, now I plan on getting a whip for my crafty to see if I can tame that beast.

 

[shredder]

Shredder, I hear ya on the rosin, it's good stuff. I will never fully abandon concentrates, but the flower path leads to that anyway so it's a great convenience to be able to take flower and process your own meds at home, and even more specifically, some of the most potent possible, assuming knowledge/equipment/capability/etc.

Question for you on the flower irritation, are you using any water filtration? I just received my flowerpot so it's really my first time ever vaping flower through water and was surprised at how smooth it was in comparison to my crafty which will choke the living shit out of me on occasion. In fact, now I plan on getting a whip for my crafty to see if I can tame that beast.

Yes, I use water pipes. I have four I think. And lots of vapes.

Before I got my dnail sic halo, I mostly used an underdog with water.

The water filtering definitely helps, but rosin bothers me less than herb.

It may be just because I'm taking less hits overall. One or two hits of rosin, is like 2+ herb stems, and the corresponding hits, with my underdog.

 

[Danksta]

Friendly reminder to the folks who just got back into flower...stay hydrated! I had forgotten about how much vaping can dehydrate you versus dabbing. Always keep water on hand to prevent post session headaches.

 

[Little Bill]

I've recently gone back to a 50-50 mix of concentrates and flower. I love the "completeness" of the flower experience. I've been following the flower pot thread and I'm finding it very difficult to resist...

Resistance is futile @bizwaxzion. You know you want to, you need to, you have to. VAS must be obeyed.